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Musharraf and Manmohan’s Monologues

M I Khan May 17, 2006

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#99 Posted by bharath on May 22, 2006 4:19:10 pm
re#98 by Hate Pot

Hate pot here is the classic evidence ............

why there is no hope for the...........

puke-ish-tan...........
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#98 Posted by HP on May 22, 2006 8:28:33 am


… a picture is better than a million words....

Remember the BILLBOAD!



Summer hasn’t officially started yet.... but the boom boom is booming…

And now some daga dug Boom boom
Daga dug Boom Boom

http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/may/22sri.htm

Kashmir: 2 more strikes ahead of PM`s visit

At least 15 people, including seven policemen, were injured in separate grenade attacks that militants carried out in Rainwari and Babarbar Shah localities of the city.
The attacks come two days ahead of Prime Minister Manmohan`s visit to Srinagar for the second roundtable conference to find a solution to the Kashmir issue.
Five policemen and seven civilians received splinter injuries as militants lobbed a grenade at security personnel posted at the Kathidarwaza Chowk in Rainawari area in the afternoon, official sources said.

http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/may/21jk.htm

Srinagar: 7 killed as militants open fire


Seven persons including one policeman were killed and ten others including the Kashmir Zone police chief were injured when suicide militants attacked the Congress party rally in the Sher-e-Kashmir park in summer capital Srinagar on Sunday afternoon.
Police said two fidayeen militants in police uniform forced their entry inside the park where hundreds of Congress workers had gathered in connection with the 15th death anniversary of the late Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi.
The fidayeen hurled hand grenades and sprayed bullets from automatics at the police guarding the venue and Congress workers who were inside the park. Police said two civilians and one policeman died on the spot while 13 others including the inspector general of police Kashmir zone K.Rajendra were injured in the shooting.


Duga dug Boom Boom....
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#97 Posted by arjun_m on May 22, 2006 7:59:16 am
#92 by HisExcellency on May 21, 2006 6:03pm PT


Pakistan today is the one of the only places in the world where a 40% return on investment is like pocket change. No wonder the Chinese, Arab and American investors are excited about Pakistan...



How much foreign institutional investment has gone into the KSE? a piddly 400 million or so? The Paki stock exchange is an echo chamber of paki delusions..no real fundamentals..no real world class companies like Infosys/Wipro/Reliance/Tatas..

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#96 Posted by kaptain on May 22, 2006 6:14:46 am
Kashmir banay ga China..
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#95 Posted by arjun_m on May 22, 2006 5:16:03 am
#90 by HisExcellency on May 21, 2006 5:38pm PT

Umm...So you accept that you were BSing when you claimed Pakiland exported 400million $ of IT and you have no proof of your claim..

As for the PSEB, no..I don`t think it has the ability to see through Pakiland`s wet dream of a billion $$ of IT exports..Pakiland will always be known for jihad like India is known for IT..OBL will be recruiting in Pakiland while Intel,MS,Cisco,TI etc recruit in India..
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#94 Posted by harish_hyd on May 21, 2006 11:40:08 pm
#93 by HisExcellency

If the Americans disengage from South Asia tomorrow, the Jihad shall revive and Indian Army will again start losing a dozen soldiers every week in Kashmir.

You guys have been killing a dozen Indian soldiers for how long? 2 decades? Then how come India is nowhere close to giving up Kashmir while Pakistan has been forced to do every kind of humiliating U-turn to the point that it has now dropped its insistence on UN resolutions and is now even willing to even trade with India? Maybe Pakis are good at pin-pricks, but anything beyond that, they just don`t have the balls. Isn`t that why Nawaz Sharif ran to Washington uninvited on a 4th of July?
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#93 Posted by HisExcellency on May 21, 2006 7:23:09 pm
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India`s talking with only those who already agree with the Indian position, and Pakistan consulting those who only toe Islamabad`s line is not a dialogue -- it is a monologue.

Mr. Ismail, I agree with your comments. But no discussion of Peace Process can be complete without a mention of American involvement. Pakistan is talking to India because the Americans sweetened the `Peace Process` with billion dollar aid packages and debt rescheduling. India is talking to Pakistan because the Americans offered a ``dehyphenated relationship``, foreign investment and a seat on the global power table along with China.

If the Americans disengage from South Asia tomorrow, the Jihad shall revive and Indian Army will again start losing a dozen soldiers every week in Kashmir. Instead of fearing third-party mediation, the Indians should therefore welcome it.
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#92 Posted by HisExcellency on May 21, 2006 6:03:49 pm
Pakistan today is the one of the only places in the world where a 40% return on investment is like pocket change. No wonder the Chinese, Arab and American investors are excited about Pakistan...

CAPITAL MARKET ON STRIDES
By Haris Zamir
Pakistan & Gulf Economist, May 6, 2006

Pakistan`s US$54 billion stock market that posted average annual gain of 68 percent in dollar terms in last four-year, rose by 1,929 points that is 20 percent during first quarter of 2006.

Though the equity market remained volatile, it ended the quarter at 11,486 points close to its peak of 11,609 witnessed on Feb 23, 2006.

During the last quarter, the KSE 100 Index also went for a sharp correction of 1,516 points or 13 in just 12 trading sessions. Despite this analysis showed that 47 listed companies which covered 89 percent of the Karachi Stock Exchange benchmark 100 index revealed that return to investors ranged between 40 percent to 74 percent, where most of the companies belonged to oil, gas, cement and banking sectors.
Dominant companies are the ones which were privatized or stakes were sold through the local bourses such as Oil and Gas Development Co., Pakistan Petroleum Ltd., and National Bank of Pakistan.

The gas distribution companies SNGPL & SSGC topped the list as the best performing stocks for the quarter ended March, 2006. This was following government`s invitation to potential buyers for their privatization at the start of the year. SNGPL gave its shareholder a massive 74 percent returns during the quarter, whereas, SSGC gave a 54 percent return. These two were followed by big banks such as MCB, UBL and NBP that gave its investors a substantial 62 percent, 51 percent & 42 percent return, respectively. The cement sector, following an increase in cement prices & the start of the peak construction season and also the government`s ambition to build large water reservoirs`, also came in the limelight in March 2006, as market leaders in the cement industry, Lucky and DG khan Cement, posted 46 percent and 42 percent return, respectively.

Looking at the energy sector stocks, Pakistan Oilfield was among the top ten performers giving its shareholders a 48 percent return. Whereas, index heavyweights, such as OGDC and PPL gave its investors a decent 34 percent and 31 percent return. PTCL remained subdued while under performing the index by 20 percent.


The government is targetting some additional shares in OGDC and United Bank for the local investors. This would certainly improve the free-float of shares, giving more room for the investors to make capital gains. Privatization Commission plans to sell as much as 15 percent shares to overseas investors in the shape of Global Depository Receipts, or GDRs and to domestic investors, which would certainly spurt some rally in OGDC. Similarly, it would sell as much as 10 percent shares in United Bank. Last year, the government was able to sell only four percent shares in United Bank for 50 rupees a piece, now trading around 150 rupees. The lender has shown growth after majority stakes sold to UAE group and Bestway Cement.

According to an analyst less has been done for the small investors, but growth in mutual fund industry in the country would help increase number of new investors in the country.

Shahid Ghaffar, Chief Executive Officer, of HBL Asset Management Limited sharing his view on mutual fund industry that, the growth has been faster in last couple of years in the country, which shows that fund managers have done a good job in enhancing the size of fund under management. Ghaffar said that fund managers and the government both should actively pursue to encourage people from all walks of life to invest in mutual funds.

A spate of reforms were initiated in 1997 under Asian Development Bank (ADB) assistance of $225 million and Security and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (SECP), the country`s capital market regulators forged rules to curb speculative trade aimed at protecting small investors.

A director of the KSE said that with more large issues to come for listing for raising financial resources from the capital market, it is expected that the size of the market in terms of volume and market capitalization would increase further, thus attracting both local and foreign portfolio investment. Moreover , with the improved and efficient trading systems at the Exchange with sound risk management and stringent regulatory framework, the prospects of the Karachi Stock Exchange are full of promise.


He said we have forwarded number of proposals for the federal budget of the new fiscal year which includes capital gains tax exemption for five years, tax rebate for listed companies, exemption on dividend income, compulsory distribution of dividend by listed companies, improvement in mutual funds industry and voluntary pension scheme, investment allowance, demutualization and capital tax exemption on corporatisation of individual stock exchange membership.
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#91 Posted by HisExcellency on May 21, 2006 5:50:38 pm
The findings of a private publication about Pakistan...

AUTOS: ON ROAD TO INDIGENIZATION
By Talha Bin Hisham
Pakistan & Gulf Economist, May 8 -- 14, 2006

Critics and other interest groups have long criticized the auto industry on various fronts, most of which have been external and controllable factors including unprecedented surge in demand through auto financing schemes from banks and achievement of deletion levels according to the programme implemented under the WTO pressure. The industry is alleged for charging premium and making late delivery of automobiles.

Buyers in Pakistan now have a choice of various domestically produced models of Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, Nissan, Kia, Hyundai and Fiat cars and vans, Mazda coasters and Hino-Pak buses. Between 30,000 and 33,000 tractors are also produced in the country annually, a major boost to the agriculture economy.

Continued efforts of the auto industry to meet the increasing demand are evident from the fact that the production capacity has significantly been increased. The industry showed an acceleration of 28.2 percent in the rise of production in the July-January current fiscal year. Car production stood at 128,000 last year is poised to touch the mark of 500,000 during the year 2010. This achievement has only been possible through initiation of a second shift with most manufacturers.

Certain factions question the quality of locally manufactured cars and make baseless allegations on various aspects merely to convince the government that cars should be imported. In this process, they ignore the fact that auto industry has come a long way to where it stands now, and throughout the last 20 decades of progress, this industry has tried to implement international standards of quality manufacturing. At all major auto manufacturing plants, the system works so that before the prototype of a locally manufactured part is used by domestic manufacturers, it is tested by the original manufacturers at their facilities and given a certification of quality. This quality control sets a benchmark and ensures that all parts subsequently manufactured are of the same quality. They are checked for any possible malfunction beforehand to avoid any hiccups in the final assembly of the vehicle, allowing smooth operation.

Before the establishment of the auto industry, Pakistan knew no more about the auto parts manufacturing than what was available at Shershah for repairing used cars. Today, the automobile industry has made a lasting impression on the domestic vendor base by equipping it with international quality standards that have led to making it more export oriented.


The fact is that though Pakistan entered into the field of auto parts exports less than six years ago, Vendors are exporting auto parts of vehicles that are not manufactured in Pakistan, such as Mercedes, Ford Van, Morris and even the famous London taxi. Only about 40 of the more than 500 registered auto parts vendors registered with manufacturers of international car brands have entered the exports arena. When the rest exploit the potential, as they are expected to do in the next couple of years, there may well be a major boom for the auto engineering industry. To a great extent the credit for the success of the auto parts industry goes to the vendor development programs organized by the domestic auto industry, whose mainstay is technology transfer.

In areas of human resource development, certain auto manufacturers are sponsoring technical education programs on national level to produce skilled and literate workforce for the auto sector. Not only does this voluntary initiative groom able individuals to serve the economy on macro-level, the auto sector also provides instant employment to these individuals.

The level of indigenization should be judged on the basis that within the last 10 years, Pakistan stands at par with any other developing country that enjoys a healthy automobile industry. It is time critics and other self-centered factions realize the significance of the auto industry by virtue of its contributions towards the prosperity of Pakistan, and at the same time, acknowledge its success in fulfilling its commitments to the consumers, in terms of quality, service, value and delivery.
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#90 Posted by HisExcellency on May 21, 2006 5:38:16 pm
{{From the website of the Pakistan Software Export Board, the first place a non-deluded paki would have looked if such a species did exist.. }}

BUWAAHAHA... This is Arjun_m versus Arjun_m. In the space of a few posts, he has gone from Not-Impressed-with-Pakistani-institutions (e.g. KSE, PTCL) to Full-Confidence-In-Findings-of-Pakistan-institutions (e.g. PSEB). Who can take someone with inconsistent standards seriously??
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#89 Posted by arjun_m on May 20, 2006 4:57:50 pm
I see HisExcellency has done the disappearing act after being exposed again as yet another deluded paki..
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#88 Posted by bharath on May 20, 2006 3:50:41 pm
re#87,

OK Balti Sahib,
It is understandable..... if you speak out the truths and express your true feelings on behalf of your people u won`t be on the good books of ISI/ Paki........understandable.....and u write for the NEWS.. ...........pls continue to be a good boy....


But you do have a good sense of humor here:
{{{the part ceded to China by agreement will return to Pakistan once kashmir issue is resolved}}}


NOW about India`s position.... the likes of Kulthief Nahinyaar , and Alunathy Roy, will join the Paki terrorists and continue to criticize India`s ``intransigence``.etc....

We have hatred against none....we want economic development and prosperity for all our people,,,but we wouldn`t yield to terror..... YOUR SERMONIZING DOESN`T CHANGE WHAT WE FACE AND WON`T CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

WE HAVE TO PREVAIL ....and INDIA WILL PREVAIL.

Visit this link:


http://www.indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=1401



Terror challenge
Without an aggressive policy, Pakistan won’t abandon jihad.

19 May 2006: General Parvez Musharraf and the Pakistan army want a Siachen pullout before the year-end so they can showcase it as a major Indian concession during the 2007 polls ............ Whatever the scenario, Musharraf and the military want to go to the polls looking good, so India is now being pressured to concede on Siachen.

.............Demilitarisation is not the word used here but redeployment, which is a stretchable concept, and two, India is firm about authenticating the held positions. Only after authentication will further steps be considered, so there is a whole process to go through. Any reading of the reply should tell you Siachen demilitarisation, the maximum position of Pakistan, has gone into cold storage.

...............The horror is some on our side are even considering this offer, unable to understand the very temporary nature of the truce.

.............. Pakistan has never felt the full backlash of its terror policies, its terrorist groups have concluded that their home bases are safe. Whatever they do, the Kargil War, the attack on Parliament, striking at Hindu religious places, hitting commercial and scientific assets, India will never retaliate, this is the Pakistani understanding, the terrorist realisation.

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Any deal with Pakistan on its terms is appeasement, Pakistan must be defeated at its terror policy, not less. Bang for bang, some of our readers have written us, well, India cannot be a terror state like Pakistan, targeting innocent civilians and non-combatants, but, yeah, some things are possible. Terror assets must come in the crosshairs of any Indian anti-terror policy, and following that, Pakistani military assets. If there is terrorism here, the terrorists must face reprisal at home, in places where they have grown used to not fearing fear. Fear is the key, as we have said before, anything less is nothing.

The Pakistanis understand that India won’t give up on J and K, they also figure jihad is not producing results, but it has not begun to hurt them as it should. In Siachen, when border firings were common, to counter Pakistani shelling, we opened up, once in a while, with Bofors 155mm howitzers, and artillery officers acknowledge it got the Pakistanis to sue for ceasefire pronto.

[[[[[[[[There is no other language a military-terror state understands. So, there should be no Siachen pullout, no troops redeployment in J and K, and we have to carry the battle to the other side, well understanding the nuclear threshold, for Pakistan to be brought to its senses.]]]]]

The true face of Pakistan is the ISI, which ordered the Taliban to kill the Border Roads Organisation driver, Maniyappan Raman Kutty, and the Indian engineer, K.Suryanarayana.

GOOD LUCK TO PAKIS IN THEIR ELECTIONS, BUT THEY SHOULD EXPECT NOTHING FROM US.



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#87 Posted by balti on May 20, 2006 11:53:37 am
Re: # 85
yes, let`s try keep it simple...

1. i am free soul, never been to IPRI etc
2. we too have election to the northern areas legislative council
3. Baltis are too docile, poor, peaceful and pragmatic people to seek such luxuries..!
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#86 Posted by balti on May 20, 2006 11:29:09 am
Re: # 81
the part ceded to China by agreement will return to Pakistan once kashmir issue is resolved, but am not sure about the part of ladakh (J&K) territory lost by India to China as a consequence of war...
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#85 Posted by bharath on May 20, 2006 8:00:30 am
A few observations.....


*Whenever there is a serious discussion we can expect Hate Pots and His Indecency to

disappear from the scene..... if they reappear it will be again ...along the lines..of.........

``there is a billboard with Mushy in Srinagar hehehe``


*Friend here has some very tight questions... .... and ``Balti`` here comes up with..... evasive ....non-answers.. actually lies....


*We should be skeptical about the credentials of ``Balti`` here....there is enormous
resentment among Shia muslims of Baltistan against Pakistan.... yet it is amusing to see his spin on ``Azad`` Kashmir, Indian``held`` Kashmir, etc. He is loyal to ........and perhaps is on the pay roll of ``Islamabad Policy Research Institute``



* Unlike the PAKI OCCUPIED KASHMIR , in the AZAD INDIAN JAMMU KASHMIR there have been democratic elections, paki terrorists and their boot lickers were hell bent on preventing people from voting!


*``Balti`` here whines about lack of progress in the Indo-Pak ``dialogue process``....... how about Baltis under Paki brutality having a dialogue with ISI and Paki army about ``freedumb`` for Baltis FIRST.....IS THERE SUCH A DIALOGUE GOING ON?
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#84 Posted by arjun_m on May 20, 2006 6:50:06 am
Now which paki-chowkie was expecting booms?

Gas pipeline blown up, supply to Punjab cut



By Our Staff Correspondent


QUETTA, May 19: Two main pipelines supplying gas to Punjab and the Sui gas plant were blown up in the Goh area, 10km from Sui town, on Friday.

“Gas supply from Sui to Punjab has been suspended,” official sources said adding that the other affected pipeline supplied gas to the Sui gas plant from Loti gas field.

According to sources, unknown tribesmen planted high explosive under a 24-inch diameter pipeline supplying gas to Punjab and blew it up.
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