M I Khan May 17, 2006
#19 Posted by arjun_m on May 17, 2006 2:56:46 pm
#17 by jang on May 17, 2006 2:38pm PT
these hindians dont have ``honor`` issues
Pakis have honor issues...It`s against their honor and dignity to have a foreign country repeatedly bomb their citizens on their soil..fact that they can`t do anything about that is secondary...
these hindians dont have ``honor`` issues
Pakis have honor issues...It`s against their honor and dignity to have a foreign country repeatedly bomb their citizens on their soil..fact that they can`t do anything about that is secondary...
#18 Posted by mohar11 on May 17, 2006 2:54:47 pm
Mushy appeared on a billboard and pakis are already having orgasm.... Mushy, the super commando, would jump from the billboard in middle of the night and conquer kashmir... kashmir banega pakistan... paki wet-dream will come true...
Kashmiris are more pakis... kashmir this, kashmir that... 67 years down the drain - pakis are as delusional as ever... What are you going to do with these people?... :))
Kashmiris are more pakis... kashmir this, kashmir that... 67 years down the drain - pakis are as delusional as ever... What are you going to do with these people?... :))
#17 Posted by jang on May 17, 2006 2:38:17 pm
these hindians dont have ``honor`` issues..they dont mind mushy on billboards, hurriyet giving separatist speeches and such. amazing. when it comes to redrawing boundaries, they are ``inflexible``.
#16 Posted by arjun_m on May 17, 2006 2:14:14 pm
#15 by HP on May 17, 2006 1:59pm PT
The poor Indian govt and the army can’t take his picture on the billboard down…..
Why would they take it down? It`s symbolic..It says there`s no way you`re going to get Kashmir and having your billboard here is the best you can hope for..
The poor Indian govt and the army can’t take his picture on the billboard down…..
Why would they take it down? It`s symbolic..It says there`s no way you`re going to get Kashmir and having your billboard here is the best you can hope for..
#15 Posted by HP on May 17, 2006 1:59:25 pm
Interesting, the Indian army is allover Kashmir and here we have Musharaf “smiling in the middle of Srinagar”. I am sure his bateesi would be showing…The poor Indian govt and the army can’t take his picture on the billboard down…..
How long has he been showing his teeth to the Indian army in ``the middle of Srinagar``?
Ain`t this musharaf guy something? He is more popular in Kashmir than in Kashmor, Sind...
#13 Posted by bharath on May 17, 2006 1:38:13 pm
We should also discuss here anti-Shia hatred / Sunni Islam taught in school curriculum and importation of Punjabi Sunnis and settling them in Baltistan?
Re: # 11
{{Kashmiris are more Pakistanis than Pakistanis…}}}
Balochistanis are less Punjabistanis than Punjabi Sunnistanis....
Sindhudheshis are less Punjabistanis than Punjabi Sunnistanis.....
.............
{{{{Try putting Manmohan’ on a billboard anywhere is Pakistan …}}}]
yeah....... it just shows that the Hate Pots are always full .....and overflowing...........
#12 Posted by arjun_m on May 17, 2006 1:31:53 pm
#11 by HP on May 17, 2006 1:14pm PT
Anyway, I am just waiting for the boom boom …Nothing in may yet
You mean boom boom like this?
US air strike wounds at least 3 Pakistanis(IN PAKILAND)
Anyway, I am just waiting for the boom boom …Nothing in may yet
You mean boom boom like this?
US air strike wounds at least 3 Pakistanis(IN PAKILAND)
#11 Posted by HP on May 17, 2006 1:14:47 pm
“During a visit to Kashmir Valley last year, I was pleasantly surprised to see a large billboard carrying smiling pictures of President Musharraf and Prime Minister Manmohan at one of those busy intersections in the middle of Srinagar.”
Haha! …And you can’t put a picture of Musharaf on a billboard outside of Islamabad. Here he is smiling at you in “the middle of Srinagar.”
Kashmiris are more Pakistanis than Pakistanis….Try putting Manmohan’ on a billboard anywhere is Pakistan ….
Anyway, I am just waiting for the boom boom …Nothing in may yet …how disappointing!
#10 Posted by antihypochrist on May 17, 2006 1:10:57 pm
``Above all, it will provide an opportunity for the two leaders to look at the dispute from the people`s standpoint. It will make them think more humanly, creatively and futuristically``
-- But before that, shall we talk the worsening situation in Baluchistan? I heard you Pakistanis are using helicopter guns in quelling the uprisings there.
``Do jihadi organisations represent the will of the people? Perhaps they too represent a sentiment, but unfortunately have a language problem. ``
-- It`s complex. First you Islamic freaks work up a whole population to religious frenzy. It`s not just a language problem buddy. Remember, when Mushie used to split hairs between Jihad and terrorism?
``The tendency of politicians playing to the gallery makes it difficult to carry a serious and honest consultation.``
-- We common Indians do not want to part with Kashmir, and our Netas are doing a good job NOT carrying a serious and honest consultation with you guys. What do you want? Handover Kashmir to you ?
-- But before that, shall we talk the worsening situation in Baluchistan? I heard you Pakistanis are using helicopter guns in quelling the uprisings there.
``Do jihadi organisations represent the will of the people? Perhaps they too represent a sentiment, but unfortunately have a language problem. ``
-- It`s complex. First you Islamic freaks work up a whole population to religious frenzy. It`s not just a language problem buddy. Remember, when Mushie used to split hairs between Jihad and terrorism?
``The tendency of politicians playing to the gallery makes it difficult to carry a serious and honest consultation.``
-- We common Indians do not want to part with Kashmir, and our Netas are doing a good job NOT carrying a serious and honest consultation with you guys. What do you want? Handover Kashmir to you ?
#9 Posted by bharath on May 17, 2006 1:04:21 pm
{{{{Well, yes there is a risk that President Musharraf, who is also a commando speaker, will overwhelm the soft-spoken Indian prime minister.}}}}}
And Khan Sahib,
this ...ur assessment of the commando overwhelming our PM is laughable......
Unlike ur commando our PM works in a democracy, listens to every one including civil, military, political inputs... doesn`t pull rabbits out of hats like the funny clown Mushy.......
And Khan Sahib,
this ...ur assessment of the commando overwhelming our PM is laughable......
Unlike ur commando our PM works in a democracy, listens to every one including civil, military, political inputs... doesn`t pull rabbits out of hats like the funny clown Mushy.......
#8 Posted by bharath on May 17, 2006 12:59:35 pm
Khan Sahib,
Overall a good article... You eloquently sermonize but you forgot or are unwilling to hide ur partisanship....
{{Indian HELD Jammu & Kashmir, and Pakistan administered AZAD Kashmir}}}
If you want (only if you want) to have credibility among Indians .......
how about using neutral terms like Indian administered Kashmir and Pak administered Kashmir?.......
re#2
Nasah Sahib,
{{{....Hurriyet must become broad spectrum -- open its doors for Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Buddhists -- if it wants to fight elections......Secular Democracy -- no Iranian kind Religious DemocraZy -- No Islamic Hukoomat in the Valley}}}
You have good intentions.. nice .to read but...
With all the jehadi throat slitting going on ...some of ur other recocommendations are not realistic....
Overall a good article... You eloquently sermonize but you forgot or are unwilling to hide ur partisanship....
{{Indian HELD Jammu & Kashmir, and Pakistan administered AZAD Kashmir}}}
If you want (only if you want) to have credibility among Indians .......
how about using neutral terms like Indian administered Kashmir and Pak administered Kashmir?.......
re#2
Nasah Sahib,
{{{....Hurriyet must become broad spectrum -- open its doors for Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Buddhists -- if it wants to fight elections......Secular Democracy -- no Iranian kind Religious DemocraZy -- No Islamic Hukoomat in the Valley}}}
You have good intentions.. nice .to read but...
With all the jehadi throat slitting going on ...some of ur other recocommendations are not realistic....
#7 Posted by arjun_m on May 17, 2006 12:54:07 pm
Well, yes there is a risk that President Musharraf, who is also a commando speaker, will overwhelm the soft-spoken Indian prime minister.
Umm..the commando speaker has backtracked on all his earlier positions while the soft-spoken singh hasn`t given an inch..First it was Kashmir banega Pakistan...now it`s pretty please can we talk about any solution..
I`m amazed at the level of self-delusion I see in most pakis..Isn`t this the same commando general who abandoned the bodies of his soldiers in Kargil and convinced Nawaz to accept Washington`s face saving measure?
The two leaders can team up to guide people towards a final settlement.
The final settlement is Pakiland keeps what it has and India keeps what it has..and Pakiland accepts the reality that this solution is the best it`s ever going to get..
#6 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 17, 2006 12:40:37 pm
M. Ismail Khan, {``Well, let us go beyond the semantics and do it. The two leaders can team up to guide people towards a final settlement. ``}
Khan Sahib,
Very good article and some timely advice for these guys. As they say in the US, ``either be productive successfully or get off the pot.`` :)
I think that Nasah Sahib has it almost right in #2 where he states ``No Islamic Hukoomat in the Valley......period.``
For too long, almost over a century, we in the subcontinent have discussed our political, economic, and cultural problems in the glaring light of religious zeal. That gave us partition, riots, slaughters, rape, looting, and the wazoo of ``religious`` cleansing. It failed us then and will surely fail us now.
As Nasah Sahib as suggested, a non-religious, secular, democratic, and Kashmir-based initiative can be a catalyst for miracles. First, the Kashmiris come together as a ``virtual`` province of both India and Pakistan, with no transfer of territory. This can be a demilitarized entity, with joint ownership or very soft borders and free movement of goods and people (but no jihadis and guns). If successful, the next step would be to gradually extend this arrangement to the areas of Punjab, Rajasthan, Sindh, and Gujarat. I guess you can see where I am going. :)
Khan Sahib,
Very good article and some timely advice for these guys. As they say in the US, ``either be productive successfully or get off the pot.`` :)
I think that Nasah Sahib has it almost right in #2 where he states ``No Islamic Hukoomat in the Valley......period.``
For too long, almost over a century, we in the subcontinent have discussed our political, economic, and cultural problems in the glaring light of religious zeal. That gave us partition, riots, slaughters, rape, looting, and the wazoo of ``religious`` cleansing. It failed us then and will surely fail us now.
As Nasah Sahib as suggested, a non-religious, secular, democratic, and Kashmir-based initiative can be a catalyst for miracles. First, the Kashmiris come together as a ``virtual`` province of both India and Pakistan, with no transfer of territory. This can be a demilitarized entity, with joint ownership or very soft borders and free movement of goods and people (but no jihadis and guns). If successful, the next step would be to gradually extend this arrangement to the areas of Punjab, Rajasthan, Sindh, and Gujarat. I guess you can see where I am going. :)
#5 Posted by kaurasach on May 17, 2006 12:37:47 pm
learn from muslims.....throw out the muslims....like they threw out non muslims
end of the problems.....
end of the problems.....
#4 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 17, 2006 12:27:51 pm
Jang #3, {``i think use of term ``azad-kashmir`` is a non-starter..its judgemental and demonizes indians.``}
Jang,
i think use of term ``Maulana Azad`` is a non-starter..its judgemental and demonizes Maulanas.
Jang,
i think use of term ``Maulana Azad`` is a non-starter..its judgemental and demonizes Maulanas.
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