Jolly Bhai

Re: # 37

Masadi, have you read what you wrote. Here let me help and quote from your interact a passage

If you understand the concept of a rationalized, bureaucratized social structure where rules govern every aspect of life, life courses are more or less charted from birth, and people molded through a series of reward and status allocation, you would understand what I meant by ``no freedom``. When the people you mention start having, by their work, structural consequences that affect US institutions then I will accept that there is freedom here, when that is not happening their ``freedom`` is not actual freedom at all.

I am sure I need not spell it out to you, you are a smart human being. But then....cannot this be said of the ideology you hold dear to your heart - that of Islam!

Please replace Chomsky with Salaam, or Bhutto or the US with the talibans, Soodi arab rentiers etc etc.....and see you are just voicing your concerns about the ummah and translating or grafting these onto the rest of the world where there is freedom!

the rest of your interact is just hukkum and balderdash. Pompous intellectual ejaculations. Perhaps you could do with the advic(s)e given to the author - stay away from tthat thesarus!

#35 rf786 writes <<< where freedom does not exists? If that was the case then there wud have been no Noam Chomsky, Ray McGovern, Cindy Sheehan, Sean Penn, Michael Moore, Michael Jordan to name just a few. >>>

If you understand the concept of a rationalized, bureaucratized social structure where rules govern every aspect of life, life courses are more or less charted from birth, and people molded through a series of reward and status allocation, you would understand what I meant by ``no freedom``. When the people you mention start having, by their work, structural consequences that affect US institutions then I will accept that there is freedom here, when that is not happening their ``freedom`` is not actual freedom at all. Noam Chomsky has got about as much media coverage in his entire life as Paris Hilton gets in one day. When one Michael Jordan will result in the dismantling of the ghetto, only then will I recognize that African Americans have been liberated, Michael Jordan does not affect the ``third world`` social indicators affected African Americans in the US. What place is better? Any place with a less bureaucratized/robotic social structure, freedom there inspite any coersion is greater.

#36 artsoo~ Don`t give up your day job

REf#32 & 34

Masadi, mughlim, Salam-al-e-kum

Khushi se na-vaakif, chungal-e-wahab me atka
hoor-e-asal se na-vaakif, zakar-e-mohammad se latka

manind-e-zeemax, laga tujhe hanuman ka fatka
sun ke teri bak bak, Stuka ko laga jhatka

Uska ho gaya hiran, nasha tha jo do peg ka
Ho ke tum sab se pareeshan, Nasah ne kheencha kashka

Re: # 31

Harsh words, there maybe some element of truth in your disenchantment but mostly sounds like a bad weekend of watching too much of Fox news network.

where freedom does not exists? If that was the case then there wud have been no Noam Chomsky, Ray McGovern, Cindy Sheehan, Sean Penn, Michael Moore, Michael Jordan to name just a few. Sure, US is not perfect, do u have a better choice?

#32 stuka writes <<< I was in a good mood after reading the humorous exchanges on this board then I had to read your crap... >>>

Truth is always painful, especially for folk like you who fool themselves and others. IF someone tries to wake you up from blissful ignorance, and tries to save you from a moronic existence, you should atleast show some gratitude instead of responding with foul language.

That was really a very painful read...

I tried several times to read it from the begining but gave up somewhere in between.The story could be interesting as of any Jolly, Kami, Mani bhai`s lifedoom, but it looks that writer is very oppressively tailing down the tale and counting down his memoirs making jolly bhai a prominent related and theory just gives an outcome of an invalid baby occurance...

I couldn`t read the lenghty detailed account of biography of incidents that relate to tragic ending...

If you take out just ``Jolly Bhai;s`` hectic life as a cab driver then similar is the case in here desi lands where drivers and coolies have so much weather trodden hard tasked life with a little family life that is mostly financially supported not maritaly...I hope Jolly Bhai had understood the matter that has concerned his wife that made an ugly outcome and had accepted the reality with an open heart and mind and let the things flow as the go.

Thanks for ``THAT MUCH`` narration...Hope Jolly bhai makes as if he wishes anything concretely!

Yaar Masadi, tu kyon hamari gaand key peechey pada hai. We, the masses are happy here. Hammey maaf kar aur kissi aur ki lai. I was in a good mood after reading the humorous exchanges on this board then I had to read your crap. Are you sure you are not the basis of the charachter ``Khassi`` from the other story?

USA: looks like heaven from afar but is a dung pile once you come and live in it, and why is it that this ``image`` shifts so radically? Two words: cultural hegemony. In a society where the few elite have trapped the masses in an abnormal cycle of rationalized production and consumption, converting everything human into a thing to be manipulated for use, alienation has to be widespread- catastrophic among immigrants and locals alike, regardless of how many Starbucks they frequent in their ``adaptation``. Physically among a crowd but still terribly alone as psychological fact, pitted one against the other as they try to grab at the crumbs the master has thrown down form his table, held together by images of freedom where freedom does not exist and is linked to base human biology by cultural technicians of the mass media, who have robbed humanity of all cultural production because it would be bad for profit maximization, who are breaking up all human relationships to maximize consumption. A human hell sold to the world as heaven, where everything including souls are ``plastic`` neatly molded, as if in a factory, to make the sale or seal the deal. I pity all those who have wasted their lives here, including the part of my own life that has been wasted here. Hopefully that will change very soon.

Re: # 29
No...!

Re: # 27
Did you study logic in college?

Re: # 24
Jang Sahib,
You are so funny! Hillarious!
I must say after your points, Jolly Bhai does seem very homosexually inclined, although I wouldnt use the word gay for him. Its more like homosexuality within a homosocial Pakistani context.

Moral of the story: Never leave your newly wed wife home alone when you have a kala tenant.

`` few too many big words...you could`ve used simpler synonyms``(Kabuli sahib) -- ``a very heavy doze of big words``(Articulating sahib) -- ``but lay off the thesaurus a bit, will ya``(Bongdong sahib) -- ``As someone said earlier, ``LAY OFF THE THESAURUS``. Otherwise, quite good!.``(Shore Sahib)

indeed syed sahib -- listen to all these Sahiban`s suggestions and follow them -- lay off the THESAURUS with too many big words and indeed a very heavy doze of big words like -- ``was black, not desi kala, but kalla black, with curly hair, flat pakora nose, thick fat lips``...pleeze

Otherwise quite good!-- indeed

I loved it...:)

#23 there are signs..the bear-hugs, invitation for sharing his room, and the fake-made up story about a lost love ..begging for a warm shoulder to cry on...how he insisted that he is ``different`` than ali and so very lonely.

Re: # 22
Jang Sahib,

Poor Jolly Bhai was anything but, and way too boring atleast from the author`s description to be gay.

Although in your story, he would surely have been a perfect closet case.