On death of a Terrorist

EchoBhai #48,
Thanks for sharing this wonderful account of Iran from someone who returned after 25 years. It`s really amazing to note what progress determined people can make once the doors of handouts, aid, and free trade are shut in their face. As they say, necessity is the mother of invention. Perhaps Paki leaders should take note, as you said, and concentrate on social, economic, and educational development rather than salivate at the prospect of a return to ``democracy`` and the free for all at the feeding troughs of corruption and insider prosperity. I am truly happy for Iran. The western press is indeed so biased against Iran that they never dare to publish anything positive.

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Re: # 13
You, my friend, are very naive apologist for Haroon Siddiqui: Just because he was an editor does not make him a man to be admired. Here is why: I have followed hius writings in Canada very well, my friend!

Siddiqui in recent years has reduced himself into a colomnist who has nothing but tirades and rantings against US, and an apologist and defender of Islam at any cost. He never admits the darker side of followers of Islam. He is a CLOSET ISLAMIST. He has become at the end of journey a very bitter man. BTW he is not permitted to enter USA.

In all his writings he never felt a twinge of `feeling of sorry` for those who suffered under Arab Muslim`` Brethren`` as in Darfur, Negeria or Copts in Egypt etc. His writings DOES NOT mention one word about the tragedy of Tibetans or even the tragedy of AAfghans suffering under Talibs. It is OK to side with tragedy of Muslims and he never mentions anything about the tragedy of Non-Muslims. Need I say more?
No doubt his classical Madrassah education comes very handy.

Kamath

#30 by TahirQazi on June 11, 2006 9:51pm PT


I think Mahatma Gandhi got it right when he argued for use of peaceful methodology for sake of peace. Let me know how you guys feel about this.


Gandhi`s dead..his only relevance in today`s world is a amazingly boring movie that won the oscar instead of E.T...

That and his quotes that people always quote out of context..

The point is, who gave a surge to Political Islam. Were it not the Political Economy Compulsions of the Containment Theory? Was it not the US Administration that recruited radical Islamists from world over and waged a MOCK JEHAD in Afghanistan? Was it not the US Secretary of State, Standing before Afghan refugees in a camp at Jallozai near Peshawar, who called for Jehad against the evil Soviet Empire? Was it not in pursuance of meeting such objectives that USA supported non representive regime in Pakistan and expedient Islamisation in the Zia era.

Now my explanation of Political Islam. It is the exploitation of religion in its containment policy and subsequent abandonment that has resulted in this floating threat.

Cheerios

Re: # 43

Tahirbhai,

To me u dont sound like a Pakistani.

Yes, Jinnah was not religious but practioner of poilitical Islam, Advani is not spiritual but practioner of political Hinduism, Bush is religious but not spiritual kind but practioner of political Christianity(disguised as a peace activist, read British newspapers).

Common ground is possible, remotely.

Good thinking Tahir.

Best.

Dear ballukhan & VRV, ijaz_gul, majumdar and bjkumar

>>“… the problem lies with political Islam practiced in Pakistan and UAE”

Lately, I have been hearing of `political islam` more often. I do not think you can make a distinction as if there are two Islams: One political and the other non-political. I suppose, dangers lurk in both of these guises and in any religious ideology for that matter.

There is only way out: State ought to be secular with focus on social justice. This will seamlessly and effortlessly work for raising peace consciousness also.

I also think that spider-web of violence problem extends beyond boundaries of one state or the other. Would you consider, efforts for peace-based solutions better defy boundaries laid by states?

Regards,

Tahir Qazi

Mushahid Hussain Syed has said that present assemblies would re-elect President Musharraf for next five-year term in September 2007 before the general elections.

TheNews.com.pk today:

It`s official that Musharraf decided to make the people of Pakistan a bunch of Ulloos for another five years. As always the lackey Mushahid `Mandela` delivered the msg! Wah Pakistan! Wah Wah!

How an outgoing Assemblies would elect the Prez and how that would be valid? Why cant Mush face the electorate as Olugesan Obasanjo did it in Nigeria? Is he timid or does he think that the awaam are too numb to oppose this anal orgy? As a Mush watcher I find this normal but as a neighbour of Pakistan this is another round of misery and sabre-rattling in Indian subcontinent, not to mention the MMA`s support to Taliban and taking care of Osama and ofcourse another term of misery for the awaam of Pakistan. Amen.

Wow kiya shajer e nasab banayia hai. Only one link was left out and that is the US percieved threat from Communism. If you add this then Jinnah cannot be linked.
FOR THE WANT OF A NAIL THE COUNTRY WAS LOST.
Cheerios

hum aah bhi bhartey hain tau ho jaatey hain badnaam,
woh qatl bhi kartey hain tau charcha nahi hota

Re: # 29

Sri,

That`s irresponsible (nuke-hawkism). They are not meant to be used.

There are few states that swore by extremism eg. Iran (Libya was subdued, all other extremist states backtracked except Pakistan, coz military rulers in Pak play Jekyll and Hyde with the west). Most of the Arab states are reforming slowly. That`s a consolation.The only states that are problem-makers are Iran and Pakistan. You dont find any arab kingdom speaking of Ummah but a non-arab states like Pakistan does, though Arabs treat Pakistanis as dirt (Prof. Istaiq Ahmed, Daily Times sometime last month). They had a strange sense of Ummah - it sounds surreal.

Dawn of democracy in Pak would make some difference. Let`s see what happens in 2007. If not, creation of independent Balochistan would make some difference in the region, coz that would cut Iran and Pakistan to size; Balochis promise a Turkey in this region.

The more one considers it, the more obvious it is who the real culprit for the world’s current curse of terrorism is.

The killer Zarqawi would have been a nobody without prominence from the Iraq war!

There would not have been an Iraq war without 9/11.

There would not have been a 9/11 without OBL getting refuge given by Taleban in Afghanistan.

There would not have been a Taleban in Afghanistan without the Pakistanis creating it and nurturing it and continuing to support it – before 9/11, after 9/11, and even now!

The Pakistanis would not have done so without their doctrine of Ummah superiority – and their depraved need to justify their existence – and their two nation theory – and that mindset of exclusivity which thinks that being a Muslim makes one superior to being anything else!

That mindset would not have happened without that dead man Jinnah – the subcontinent’s ORIGINAL terrorist – who held a gun to its head to get his way – and the rivers of blood which he got flowing, which have continued ever since in so many forms!!

Jinnah – the original troublemaker – directly responsible for Pakistan’s current state of failure and the cesspool that it finds itself in and which it has been since trying to drag the rest of the world into! The country of Pakistan can only recover from the self inflicted wounds of Jinnah’s curse if the people of that failing country pull that demagogue and place him where he truly belongs – by hanging him from the nearest tree!

I wish there were a way to go back in time and ensure that Jinnah’s mom got herself an abortion! How different the world could have been!

REf#36

Sorry Gandhi did not say but he use to sing

Vaishnav jan to re tainay re kahiye , jo peer paraayi jane re.

Ref#30

Dear Tahir

When you quoted Gandhi, I thought this Mr Tahir ( Bird) although does not have wings but he does have taqat-e-parvaaz.

Truth is the wings and good ness of towords every body in the universe is flight of truth.

Gandhi also said

Vaishnav jan to re tainay re kahiye , jo peer paraayi jane re.

``The one who can feel the pain of others is the man of god.``

Enev Kothan ( Mohammad`s original name) does not qualify to be called as man of god and forget about Zarqawi or for that reason any cruel govt.

So Jan-e-biraader why this dilemma ``What to feel``. You should feel what realy want to feel. Even Nasah is showing your kind of dilemma.

Also Dear Echoboom ( WC ka dhamaaka),

If you have finished can you please pull the chain.

Tahir bhai,

(I think Mahatma Gandhi got it right when he argued for use of peaceful methodology for sake of peace. Let me know how you guys feel about this. )

Please convince ur compatriot YLH that MKG was a man of peace.

Regards

Roll back all these ``Islamic`` states into secular ones.............everything would be fine..........