On death of a Terrorist

The point is, who gave a surge to Political Islam. Were it not the Political Economy Compulsions of the Containment Theory? Was it not the US Administration that recruited radical Islamists from world over and waged a MOCK JEHAD in Afghanistan? Was it not the US Secretary of State, Standing before Afghan refugees in a camp at Jallozai near Peshawar, who called for Jehad against the evil Soviet Empire? Was it not in pursuance of meeting such objectives that USA supported non representive regime in Pakistan and expedient Islamisation in the Zia era.

Now my explanation of Political Islam. It is the exploitation of religion in its containment policy and subsequent abandonment that has resulted in this floating threat.

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Dear ballukhan & VRV, ijaz_gul, majumdar and bjkumar

>>“… the problem lies with political Islam practiced in Pakistan and UAE”

Lately, I have been hearing of `political islam` more often. I do not think you can make a distinction as if there are two Islams: One political and the other non-political. I suppose, dangers lurk in both of these guises and in any religious ideology for that matter.

There is only way out: State ought to be secular with focus on social justice. This will seamlessly and effortlessly work for raising peace consciousness also.

I also think that spider-web of violence problem extends beyond boundaries of one state or the other. Would you consider, efforts for peace-based solutions better defy boundaries laid by states?

Regards,

Tahir Qazi

Re: # 43

``Lately, I have been hearing of `political islam` more often. I do not think you can make a distinction as if there are two Islams: One political and the other non-political. ``

``Political Islam`` is the use of Islam to gain political power.......................it is distinct from Islam as a `spiritual` way prescribed by the almighty and revealed to the Prophet...............

with this simple distinction let me state that since you agree to keeping Islam out of politics let us now roll back the Islamization project of Pakistan that has been going on for quite a while........let us roll back all these so called ``Islamic`` states into secular democracies and keep the mullahs out of politics..............come on!! if NEPAL can change its constitution from being a religious Hindu State to a SECULAR STATE in 2006 A.D. why can`t PAkistan and all those so called ``Islamic`` states do the same??

Re: # 43

Tahirbhai,

To me u dont sound like a Pakistani.

Yes, Jinnah was not religious but practioner of poilitical Islam, Advani is not spiritual but practioner of political Hinduism, Bush is religious but not spiritual kind but practioner of political Christianity(disguised as a peace activist, read British newspapers).

Common ground is possible, remotely.

Good thinking Tahir.

Best.

Mushahid Hussain Syed has said that present assemblies would re-elect President Musharraf for next five-year term in September 2007 before the general elections.

TheNews.com.pk today:

It`s official that Musharraf decided to make the people of Pakistan a bunch of Ulloos for another five years. As always the lackey Mushahid `Mandela` delivered the msg! Wah Pakistan! Wah Wah!

How an outgoing Assemblies would elect the Prez and how that would be valid? Why cant Mush face the electorate as Olugesan Obasanjo did it in Nigeria? Is he timid or does he think that the awaam are too numb to oppose this anal orgy? As a Mush watcher I find this normal but as a neighbour of Pakistan this is another round of misery and sabre-rattling in Indian subcontinent, not to mention the MMA`s support to Taliban and taking care of Osama and ofcourse another term of misery for the awaam of Pakistan. Amen.

Wow kiya shajer e nasab banayia hai. Only one link was left out and that is the US percieved threat from Communism. If you add this then Jinnah cannot be linked.
FOR THE WANT OF A NAIL THE COUNTRY WAS LOST.
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hum aah bhi bhartey hain tau ho jaatey hain badnaam,
woh qatl bhi kartey hain tau charcha nahi hota

The more one considers it, the more obvious it is who the real culprit for the world’s current curse of terrorism is.

The killer Zarqawi would have been a nobody without prominence from the Iraq war!

There would not have been an Iraq war without 9/11.

There would not have been a 9/11 without OBL getting refuge given by Taleban in Afghanistan.

There would not have been a Taleban in Afghanistan without the Pakistanis creating it and nurturing it and continuing to support it – before 9/11, after 9/11, and even now!

The Pakistanis would not have done so without their doctrine of Ummah superiority – and their depraved need to justify their existence – and their two nation theory – and that mindset of exclusivity which thinks that being a Muslim makes one superior to being anything else!

That mindset would not have happened without that dead man Jinnah – the subcontinent’s ORIGINAL terrorist – who held a gun to its head to get his way – and the rivers of blood which he got flowing, which have continued ever since in so many forms!!

Jinnah – the original troublemaker – directly responsible for Pakistan’s current state of failure and the cesspool that it finds itself in and which it has been since trying to drag the rest of the world into! The country of Pakistan can only recover from the self inflicted wounds of Jinnah’s curse if the people of that failing country pull that demagogue and place him where he truly belongs – by hanging him from the nearest tree!

I wish there were a way to go back in time and ensure that Jinnah’s mom got herself an abortion! How different the world could have been!

REf#36

Sorry Gandhi did not say but he use to sing

Vaishnav jan to re tainay re kahiye , jo peer paraayi jane re.

Ref#30

Dear Tahir

When you quoted Gandhi, I thought this Mr Tahir ( Bird) although does not have wings but he does have taqat-e-parvaaz.

Truth is the wings and good ness of towords every body in the universe is flight of truth.

Gandhi also said

Vaishnav jan to re tainay re kahiye , jo peer paraayi jane re.

``The one who can feel the pain of others is the man of god.``

Enev Kothan ( Mohammad`s original name) does not qualify to be called as man of god and forget about Zarqawi or for that reason any cruel govt.

So Jan-e-biraader why this dilemma ``What to feel``. You should feel what realy want to feel. Even Nasah is showing your kind of dilemma.

Also Dear Echoboom ( WC ka dhamaaka),

If you have finished can you please pull the chain.

Tahir bhai,

(I think Mahatma Gandhi got it right when he argued for use of peaceful methodology for sake of peace. Let me know how you guys feel about this. )

Please convince ur compatriot YLH that MKG was a man of peace.

Regards

Roll back all these ``Islamic`` states into secular ones.............everything would be fine..........

I have not read any of the comments on your article yet, but I have my own very strong views on the subjects such as this.

Just like politics swings from cooperation>persuassion>coercion to violence, the most important fuel to ignite the process and keep it alive are the emotions of hate, need and love. In long drawn conflicts this social dimension of strategy cannot be overlooked.

If Zarqawi`s death had passed on as a routine news, that was it; like so many other people dying in Iraq. This wide coverage and statements by all concerned are going to fuel more hate and the timber will burn more incessantly.

America`s war in Iraq looks more a War of Hate and remote from what the statue of Liberty stands for.

Yet as a human, I pray I am wrong.

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........................ we see these aberrations like the echosqueaks and masadis because states like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia which have been `normalizing` Jehadist Islamist ideologies to create citizens who completely believe the state sponsored `truths` about other cultures despite seeing overwhelming evidence against their ideology............. the problem lies with political Islam practiced in Pakistan and UAE............. roll back all these states into secular political entities and you would see how the Islamists would stop running wild all over the globe and the healthy liberal scepticism becoming part of the muslim psyche...............if NEPAL CAN DO IT THEN WHY NOT PAKISTAN AND UAE???

Guys are you listening???

Dear Sri and friends!

I am sure you are aware of this strange phenomenon of collective human nature, more you try to suppress more forcefully will it bounce back in due course of time.

Force can temporarily suppress but cannot bring about peace, I think. What are your thoughts? Don’t you think peace is a better virtue than violence? I think Mahatma Gandhi got it right when he argued for use of peaceful methodology for sake of peace. Let me know how you guys feel about this.

Regards,

Tahir Qazi

Re: # 30

Need we repeat the lesson we all learnt from WWII and the fate of Hitler and the Japanese Emperor`s Nizam-e-Mustafa???

We should all take heed from the history and avoid useless bloodshed before it is too late!