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Islam and the Age of Globalization

Bina Shah June 18, 2006

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#244 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 22, 2006 11:26:03 am
Re: # 238 and #240

Isnt that what I said in 210.....good to see that others have also heard the same and done some research
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#243 Posted by bjk on June 22, 2006 11:24:16 am

#241

Hmmm.. sounds like a straightforward case of good old-fashioned love story!

What has the Hindu/Sikh/Muslim/Pakistani/Punjabi and all those other qualifiers got to do with it?

Does your (pregnant) wife know that you are spending so much time worrying over the travails of lonely Pakistani Punjabi ladies in distress?

More important, does your boss know?

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#242 Posted by bjk on June 22, 2006 11:04:31 am

#238 lilywhite

Ama yaar, how come you know so much about the good ole Prof.?!!

Does that make YOU the Prof.?

Naheen na?

Same way, the author is not that other nick!

Besides, making money ain’t no crime.

But it is a very different story when it comes to enticing youths to go get themselves killed fighting for a “cause” – like Kashmir!

Hai na?!!

Bo lo – hai naa!
Kabhie mat – ro naa
Chahe toot jaye
Koi khilona
Khilona, khilona
Dil ka khilona!


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#241 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 22, 2006 11:02:44 am
Folks,

Talking about violence and terrorism can get rather depressing. We don`t need Prof. Akbar Ahmed or other self-styled spokesmen to convince the world about the affection, love, and pleasure that Muslims can bring into non-Muslims` lives. Consider this true but sad tale of Muslim/Sikh affection.

Another tale of romantic fascination ...

Zainab was a young Punjabi Muslim girl who was saved by the gallant old farmer, Boota Singh in 1947. Their story is told by LaPierre and Collins in ``Freedom at Midnight,`` The Punjabi Muslim girl settled down with her savior and bore him a daughter. When the authorities came searching for missing girls, Zainab, like thousands of other Punjabi Muslim girls, refused to leave her Sikh husband and lover. She was forcefully taken to Pakistan. Boota Singh followed, changed his name to Jamil, and went to court to regain his lovely wife. The tragic story ends with Boota (Jamil) Singh`s demise at the Lahore railway station.

This romantic but sad true story confirms the romantic and sexual fascination that Punjabi Muslim females have for Sikh males. Perhaps it is the legacy of Maharaja Ranjit Singh and his harem full of Punjabi Muslim females and the legendary sexual exploits of Maharaja Bhupinder Singh of Patiala that have added to this well-known phenomenon. Bhupinder Singh had stocked his harem with the loveliest ladies, many of them Punjabi Muslim girls, and had his own research lab for the development of aphrodisiacs.

The legend lives on. Now Sikh male yatris are visiting Paki Punjab once again and leaving with wide smiles on their faces. It may be the fulfillment of their religious vows that makes them happy or it could be the love of their Paki Punju female lovers. The equally wide smile on the latter points to the more romantic reason.
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#240 Posted by Raw_Dust on June 22, 2006 11:01:41 am
lillywhite:
precisely. This guy is a fake. Profs. who are the real deal tend to be low-key like Professor Ahmed Hassan Dani or Professor Saleem uz Zaman Siddiqui.
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#239 Posted by foggy on June 22, 2006 10:58:30 am
Crackers!!!! this whole GLOBE would be if peacemakers like Prof.Akber S. Ahmed and his team were not present on it. Their particular trend of activities are badly needed all round the earth (planet). and the last paragraph of your article sounds like a prayer from the heart. May I join too and say Amen! May poetic justice prevail on the global atmosphere and make way for true peace and justice.
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#238 Posted by lillywhite on June 22, 2006 10:54:26 am
Re: # 125
Mian jahangasht or is it Bina ji, coz ur so well versed with the great profs bio.
He became ambassador coz he was obeying orders coz he was in CSP but when recalled he resigned, ie disobeyed orders.
so much fr all yr shining CSP ethics!
As for his so called civil service, he was always on some scholarship, fellowship, sponsership, youname it, he had it, that he was ever in his post.
His GREAT freeride began when he wrote, or rather plaigarized paragraph by paragraph, MAX WEBER`s famous PROTESTANT ETHIC and called it ARIAN work ethic. Gen Zia being an Arian, it was for him.
He got Pakistan govt funded chair at Cambridge, a couple of year`s appointment, but it went on and on for, you tell me, 12 YEARS! All expense paid SABBATICAL LEAVE on FULL SALARY , making a nice little earner making BBC films, Jinnah, PR this and that, in short a whale of a jolly good time.
Could you or the good old professor fake care to tell us what REAL ACADEMIC WORK HE DID?
His so called books are a joke to read, all the same stuff recycled again and again to fit with the current fad, and pictures and newspaper cuttings like an O level Pakistani student can do better in his scrap book!
So much for his integrity, intellectual or otherwise, and u wonder why ordinary or civil service pakistanis hate him.
Ah , there used to be a joke in civil service circles:
What does S in AKber S ahmed stand for?
50% Sponger, 50% sycophant
Care to comment u2 among all the interactors who believe him?
Hain Bina ji??
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#237 Posted by bjk on June 22, 2006 10:45:56 am

#235 Sadna

Amma yaar,

Prof. Ahmed’s (and T32’s) consternation and inability to face up to the truth is fully understandable. Such individuals yearn to become a shining example of:

सत्यम वृयात, प्रियम वृयात
न वृयात सत्यम अप्रियम !

Satyam briyat, priyam briyat
Na briyat satyam apriyam!


Speak the truth
Speak it sweet
But never speak truth
That ain’t so sweet!


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#236 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 22, 2006 10:33:48 am
#235, {``NonMuslims can do nothing about this INTERNAL Muslim choice, so abusing us is not going to help. ``}

Aw come on! The abuse you obtain from Manto Bhai is the ONLY bright light in the lives of Paki Chowkies. It helps a lot - it makes up for some of the depression we suffer from sectarianism, jihadism, corruption, Paki Punju hegemony, and lack of a world cup soccer team. Be a good sport and keep on playing your designated role of loser.
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#235 Posted by sadna on June 22, 2006 10:29:19 am
#220
``#220 Sadna: You mean hindus are not Supremely Pure? You mean hindu mobs didnt run down sikhs in delhi and beat `em to death?? You mean Operation BlueStar was a Paki conspiracy?? Surely you jest!! Everyone knows just how Perfectly Good Hindus are!!``

Yes, Hindus are not Supremely Pure. Hindu mobs did run down Sikhs in Delhi and burn them to death ruthlessly. Operation Bluestar was an Indian State`s operation. That was 22 years ago and Hindus are still not Supremely Pure. But Indians have learnt a little and atoned a little since then. Though there have been NO prosecutions, many Indians have acknowledged that what happened to innocent Sikhs was wrong.

However even 30 years on, Pakistanis like Akbar Ahmed are refusing to acknowledge any such thing about Pakistani state support of jihadi fundamentalists. Not only that, the policy continues in full swing. The evil US, Israel and Hindus are brought up ad nauseum to prevent any intra-Muslim dialogue on this. Such hypocrisy is INTERNAL and is fostering an INTERNAL weakness. Muslims are not being empowered by this hypocrisy or nor is it improving their standard of living, it is just brutalizing Muslim society as the attack on the Kashmiri devrishes demonstrates. NonMuslims can do nothing about this INTERNAL Muslim choice, so abusing us is not going to help.
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#234 Posted by bjk on June 22, 2006 10:28:16 am

#226 - #229 Tahmed

Ummah yaar,

Yeh kya maamla hai?! Aaye, bus do lafaz boley - woh bhee ``off-topic`` - aur chal diye!

Isn’t that what the Jihadis do?!!

Isn`t that what your ``freedom fighters`` in Kashmir do?!!

Oh wait, they don`t shoot with their mouths.

I suppose there IS a difference.



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#233 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 22, 2006 10:17:56 am
As a descendant of former Supremely Pure but Horrible Hindus and now an Islamically Pure but Oppressed Paki from Karachi, it is my aasha to be reincarnated as a Paki Punju Muslim. That way I can pontificate about the oneness of God, brotherhood and unity of mankind, the legitimacy of TNT, the virtues of ``freedom fighters,`` all the while killing Kashmiri Muslims in order to free them and keeping ``stranded`` Muslim Pakis in Bangladesh by reclassifying them as ``Biharis,`` and thus not deserving of being citizens of the Land of the Pure. Is mominity another term for hypocrisy?
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#232 Posted by rf786 on June 22, 2006 10:15:47 am
Re: # 217

{If you dont know the meaning of Vertical Smile, then you are a gay}

this coming from a guy who calls himself vertical smile.....
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#231 Posted by HP on June 22, 2006 10:13:08 am
#227

``You mean hindu mobs didnt run down sikhs in delhi and beat `em to death?? ``

What are you talking abt Tahmed?

They were congressi leftists and not hindu. Some of them were pakistani agents mostly ISI....

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#230 Posted by sadna on June 22, 2006 10:09:34 am
Well, if some pure Muslim had posted the news item about that attack in J&K, a dirty hindoo like me would not have had to do so. There is complete impunity given to soldiers of Islam by pure Muslims, no checks and balances on those who carry the purest aspirations of Muslims on their shoulders into the battlefield. Is such a hand waving impunity granted by pure Muslims to `freedom fighters` a horrible hindoo`s fault?

Horrible and uppity infidels like me get the opportunity to speak among Islamically Pure Types only because of Islamically Pures`own inattention and intellectual laziness as described above. Let that be a lesson to you
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#229 Posted by tahmed32 on June 22, 2006 10:06:02 am
Sigh.... gotta go. The Supremely Pure Ones have more important things to do than listen to an Adoring Paki applauding their Purity and Genius. :-(
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