Fareeha Choudhry June 21, 2006
#5 Posted by sanjay on June 21, 2006 4:21:06 am
A well-written article which needs sincere appreciation for the disgust shown by a nationalist, a true patriot for his/her country.
But the thing is, as somebody has pointed out, words are no match for the action. What is required is the action--something what Nepalese have done.
But what appears is(we dont know the real truth here in India), is that a normal Pakistani is not very much dependent of Pakistani State for his survival--either he survives from the money from the Gulf or through agriculture or through zamindars etc. that he is not much bothered how the country is ruled.
It is only the very minuscule populace which thinks about democracy and such things. Their numbers is not enough to cause much ripples in the political waters of Pakistan.
So all in all Sir/Madam, it is still some time before voices of people like are heard in Pakistan. But the real danger facing people like you is that Musharaff is not going to leave his post or giveup his Uniform. Thats for sure. Nobody should have any doubt. Elections 2007 will be as good as Elections-2002. In such a scenario, Pakistan runs the danger of getting into the pariah status. What I feel that Musharaff has understood it so on his own he is insulating himself from the outside world. Most of the time he is talking about China, he is conspicious by his absence from western media etc.
But the thing is, as somebody has pointed out, words are no match for the action. What is required is the action--something what Nepalese have done.
But what appears is(we dont know the real truth here in India), is that a normal Pakistani is not very much dependent of Pakistani State for his survival--either he survives from the money from the Gulf or through agriculture or through zamindars etc. that he is not much bothered how the country is ruled.
It is only the very minuscule populace which thinks about democracy and such things. Their numbers is not enough to cause much ripples in the political waters of Pakistan.
So all in all Sir/Madam, it is still some time before voices of people like are heard in Pakistan. But the real danger facing people like you is that Musharaff is not going to leave his post or giveup his Uniform. Thats for sure. Nobody should have any doubt. Elections 2007 will be as good as Elections-2002. In such a scenario, Pakistan runs the danger of getting into the pariah status. What I feel that Musharaff has understood it so on his own he is insulating himself from the outside world. Most of the time he is talking about China, he is conspicious by his absence from western media etc.
#4 Posted by harish_hyd on June 21, 2006 2:46:50 am
Well written! When democracy was in place, you guys were fed up with BB/NS and their corrupt ways, never mind the fact that the scams that Indian politicians are involved in would make Paki politicians look like kindergarten kids. You asked for a savior and the savior arrived in a PIA flight from Colombo. TV channels beamed visuals showing people jumping in joy at Musharraf`s takeover. Now you`re tired of this savior and want a new one. Thus Pakistan continues to oscillate between dictatorship and democracy.
#3 Posted by rf786 on June 21, 2006 2:08:42 am
Re: # 2
{Nevertheless, Musharraf`s days now appear to be numbered. Even if he gets elected president for a further term, it is unlikely he`ll be able to influence the outcome of the next general elections given the consensus of all major parties including MMA on the main provisions of the charter of democracy. In that event, impeachment will not be far off and trial through a Kargill Commission, also proposed in the charter of democracy.
Thus, Musharraf is likely to have a meeting with destiny in not too distant a future}
can u please provide us with a defination of `not too distant a future` so we can keep a tab on your prediction. By the way, which political parties r u talking about? same one`s who helped the military and will most willingly jump in bed if given the green light? Mulla, feudal, nationalist, so-called liberals, technocrats all of these politicians have the army flag up their backside, so who is going to bell the cat? Not going to happen very soon, unless something dramatic happens and Pak establishment has no choice but to surrender.
{Nevertheless, Musharraf`s days now appear to be numbered. Even if he gets elected president for a further term, it is unlikely he`ll be able to influence the outcome of the next general elections given the consensus of all major parties including MMA on the main provisions of the charter of democracy. In that event, impeachment will not be far off and trial through a Kargill Commission, also proposed in the charter of democracy.
Thus, Musharraf is likely to have a meeting with destiny in not too distant a future}
can u please provide us with a defination of `not too distant a future` so we can keep a tab on your prediction. By the way, which political parties r u talking about? same one`s who helped the military and will most willingly jump in bed if given the green light? Mulla, feudal, nationalist, so-called liberals, technocrats all of these politicians have the army flag up their backside, so who is going to bell the cat? Not going to happen very soon, unless something dramatic happens and Pak establishment has no choice but to surrender.
#2 Posted by zeemax on June 21, 2006 1:34:02 am
Wasi Zafar is technically right. Article 41 (7) (B) was amended through LFO to include the text `` Notwithstanding anything contained in this Article or Article 43 or any other provision of the Constitution..`` This effectively means that if an assembly, any assembly, elects the president for another term, nothing else contained anywhere in the constitution can prevent it. Thus, PM can be president in uniform or a spacesuit or whatever .... Use of the term `Notwithstanding` in legal lingo can work wonders.
I can`t see why Pakistanis bother to refer to the constitution at all. It has been mutilated so much that not only the letter but also the spirit is now undecipherable.
Nevertheless, Musharraf`s days now appear to be numbered. Even if he gets elected president for a further term, it is unlikely he`ll be able to influence the outcome of the next general elections given the consensus of all major parties including MMA on the main provisions of the charter of democracy. In that event, impeachment will not be far off and trial through a Kargill Commission, also proposed in the charter of democracy.
Thus, Musharraf is likely to have a meeting with destiny in not too distant a future.
I can`t see why Pakistanis bother to refer to the constitution at all. It has been mutilated so much that not only the letter but also the spirit is now undecipherable.
Nevertheless, Musharraf`s days now appear to be numbered. Even if he gets elected president for a further term, it is unlikely he`ll be able to influence the outcome of the next general elections given the consensus of all major parties including MMA on the main provisions of the charter of democracy. In that event, impeachment will not be far off and trial through a Kargill Commission, also proposed in the charter of democracy.
Thus, Musharraf is likely to have a meeting with destiny in not too distant a future.
#1 Posted by paindupastry on June 21, 2006 1:25:33 am
I liked what i read and i have many of the same opinions except
``The greatest tragedy of Pakistan and its people is perhaps simply`` that the ones who are capable and learned enough to ``rise up and scream your lungs out in protest. Scream and scream, individually, collectively, until someone bloody hears you” are too busy screaming from 10,000 miles away.
For the screaming to be heard u ought to be a little bit closer to the action, otherwise you may as well, surf www.pass-the-time.com and enjoy your coffee.
In summary, good article but we already have plenty of cribbers, we need doers….which one are you?
``The greatest tragedy of Pakistan and its people is perhaps simply`` that the ones who are capable and learned enough to ``rise up and scream your lungs out in protest. Scream and scream, individually, collectively, until someone bloody hears you” are too busy screaming from 10,000 miles away.
For the screaming to be heard u ought to be a little bit closer to the action, otherwise you may as well, surf www.pass-the-time.com and enjoy your coffee.
In summary, good article but we already have plenty of cribbers, we need doers….which one are you?
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