16% UK Muslims Stand by London Bombers

Irena,

Irena behn takes exception to somebody raping a 5 year old girl in Gujarat. I am surprised!

It shud a holier thing to you behn! Your demi-god did it for the mankind b4 somebody emulated him in Gujarat.

Pl take a date and count, who did it more (though this corpse count is a satanic thought), Muslim fundoos or Hindu fundoos. In Indian subcontinent it`s Musloo fundamentalism that gave birth to Hindu fundamentalism. Pl dont equate Indian nationalism with Hindu nationalsim (Seema Mustafa does this very often, for her a bad Hindu is an Ugly Indian but a bad Muslims is not an Ugly Indian!!!???!!).

What happened to all the hindus in Pakistan? Where did they go? What will happen to the remaining few?

#264 by tahmed32

re-read what you yourself posted. you missed the part where i wrote ``of any community of people on chowk ``. now see if your claim makes any sense.

So you imply that just because Chowk is free of Pakis who hate Indians (even though you know it is a bald lie), all Pakis love Indians and the terrorists who cross the LoC aren`t Pakis? Makes sense?

BJK

Irena is a womans name. Greek origin. It means peace.

Cheers.

#267, #265 lucknawi

Ama Irena (is that a man’s name or a woman’s?)

Let me rephrase some of my thoughts in less provocative ways.

In #267 you use the qualifier “terrorist” Muslims to denote those who use the bomb, but put no such qualifier for “Hindutwa-vaadis”! Why not use the term “terrorist” to denote the act itself, instead of generalizing – are you in a position to vouch that no Muslims have conducted those heinous acts that you ascribe to the other community.

Who the heck appointed you as the sole spokesperson of all Indian Muslims? Are you out there with a movie camera recording what every Indian Muslim is doing around the clock and can you personally guarantee that no Indian Muslim has cut stomachs of pregnant women and burnt other human beings?

How much brain do you need to acquire to realize that acts of barbarism are not community-specific?

Why do you think your forefathers stayed back in India, anyway? You think that one day they got up and had this bright idea – hey, we live among savages, so let us stick around here so that a couple of generations later, our dear Irena can get to enjoy their full flavor!!

And since when did you start trusting politicians? Were you personally present in that Godhra compartment and monitoring who was actually doing the killing? And since when did Laloo become a paragon of virtue?

Of course, nobody needs to apologize except for what they do themselves. It is simple as that. Your statement “The Muslims never killed those 59, so why should they apologize?” is utterly pathetic – because your position is not that people should take responsibility as individuals – you are taking the asinine position that if some Muslims had carried out that outrage – then would be okay for Muslims to go around apologizing. What a numbskull way to look at things!

Why this herd mentality?

Guess what, there is no herd – except perhaps in your mind!

News media is not all that free of bias – it is not much different in the USA, too. Clearly, parts of the Gujarat media were complicit in the post-Godhra riots! These people need to be held accountable. Why don’t those NGO’s bring the necessary lawsuits?

And what is this big deal that you are making about not knowing Urdu? Language is a tool of communication as well as a vehicle of culture and a repository of heritage. If indeed your older generation members know the language but you don’t – you are the one who loses out.

The important thing is to do positive things with that heritage – so it gets even better over time, and not waste time and energy defending stuff which is indefensible.

Re: # 211

Indian007:

You said, ``Atleast hindutwavaadis dont give shelter to spies and terrorists
from Pakistan......atleast hindutwavaadis dont plant bombs in school
buses and public places...... .........Indian muslims on the other hand, are
well known for doing all of the above.``

My reply: At least Indian Muslims don`t rape a five-year-old girl. At least
Indian Muslims don`t cut the stomach of a nine-month-pregnant woman and burn
her foetus in front of her eyes. At least they don`t stuff pieces of iron and
wood into the vaginas of raped women. That`s the bastion of the Hinduta-wadi
males..

Terrorist Muslims might be using a weapon of mass destruction like a bomb
but Hindutva-wadis use the weapon of rape. The former weapon is bad, but the
latter is worse.

Irena Akbar

Serial blasts halt Mumbai`s Western Railway

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and the a-hole commies are worried about the the improper presentation of surveys by media.

Re: # 164


Kedarnathji:

You asked the author two questions:

Q1) How much empathy has been shown by the Muslim world to these 59
innocent pilgrims?
Q2)What was the coverage of these riots in the Indian media especially your
Urdu media?

The author`s reply:

A1)The fire started from inside the train. Remember the Banerjee report?
The Muslims never killed those 59, so why should they apologise?*

A2)Urdu media is not ``my`` media. I maybe a ``Luknawi`` but I don`t know how
to read or write Urdu. However, I do know how the Gujarati-language media
covered the ``riots``. I read about it in a 50-page report that I gathered
from an NGO that visited Gujarat at the time of the genocide. According
to that report, the Guj newspapers published false reports of the rape of
Hindu women by Muslim men. The reports were flashed on the front pages. The
idea was to provoke the Hindus to commit similar crimes against Muslims,
which they so ``gloriously`` did for the three months that followed. Once the
genocide was over by sometime around June 2002, the same Guj newspapers
published small reports stashed away in the corners of inside pages that
apologized for the initial false reports. The small reports were so
invisible, they could have been mistaken for tender-notices.


Peace.

Irena Akbar

#262 re-read what you yourself posted. you missed the part where i wrote ``of any community of people on chowk ``. now see if your claim makes any sense.

#236 by zeemax

So, blowing up things wins!

Going by your logic, one would conclude that the US will be the biggest winner given the fact that they seem to be using the greatest amount of explosives per Muslim :-)

#182 by tahmed32 on July 7, 2006 11:38am PT

All I can say is that, despite my differences on issues with fellow Pakistanis on chowk, I am very proud of the fact that we dont have such rabid haters of any community of people on chowk in our midst.

Sure..like I said, Pakis crossing the borders armed with AK-47s to kill Indians aren`t ``rabid haters of any community (read Hindus)``. They are full of love for Hindus.

#257 by Raw_Dust

There is no contradiction. It seems you gentlemen have mentle blocks which only look for straws to attack Islamic thought in complete ignorance while dispensing with the need to study even the basics of it.

My friend, there are 99 descriptions or `names` of Allah contained in Quran and these include AL-QAHHAR and AL-JABBAR. Go look up in google what that means. Or better yet, look up all the 99. It should add to your knowledge to some extent.

The match is ON!
Secularoons, Liberaloons, Murtadoons, & munafiquoons take note.

Did I read somewhere of ``hedonism`` & ``boheminism`` rearing their ugly heads in Pakistan?
Well Musharraf`s days are numbered after November 2006. Yahyaa Khan was also responsible for the KanjaRR pUn when General Rani , the Madame Naekaa,ruled his roost.

It is no longer ``cool`` to be the westoxicated.

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Posted: 2006 Jul 10 - 12:05

• The largest theme park in Sweden changed its uniform regulations after a Muslim female worker who was banned from wearing the Hijab reported her managers to the discrimination ombudsman, SR International reported.

The Muslim worker was denied a summer job at the Liseberg amusement park in Gothenburg because she refused to take off her Islamic headscarf and long-armed top.

According to the local newspaper Göteborgs Posten, the woman has been given just two thousand dollars in compensation after reporting her bosses to the discrimination ombudsman, which ruled that she can wear a tailored-made Islamic dress in the theme park’s colors.

A recent survey by the National Integration Board showed that veiled Muslim women in Sweden aren’t only discriminated against but are also violently attacked.

The Hijab is meant to protect Muslim women from the eyes of men outside their families. It has been the subject of heated debate in several European countries for more than a decade.

In 2004, a Hijab ban was imposed on all female Muslim teachers and students in all state schools in France, where Muslims make up about 8% of the population.

In Germany, home to about 5 million Muslims, eight states banned public school teachers from wearing the Islamic headscarf. And in the capital, Berlin, all civil servants are banned from wearing the Hijab.

And last December, the Dutch parliament voted to ban Burqas, which are already banned in the Belgian town of Maaseik.

However, many Muslims in Europe succeeded in integrating themselves into their societies, while preserving their Islamic values and identities - following the basic governing Islamic rule in the relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims: peaceful co-existence. The hard work has led to the recognition of Muslims in many European states, which has seen many Muslims entering the political process.

Sources:Islam Online