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Re: # 555 by zeemax

Most sincerely I thank you for the nice words.

Zeemax:
Thanks for bringing Mandelbrot to my attention.

The Mandelbrot set somehow equates the concept of ` the tiniest and the biggest, nowhere and everywhere at the same time, repeating itself in every manifestation` and much else.

#598 by echoboom

Yes. I asked this question because I was fascinated with the Mandelbrot set. Where do these patterns come from? And they`re all the same .... unending .... and identical ... regardless where you look.

Awaiting Mr. number`s response, if he graces us i.e. ....

Zeemax:

Of all the disciplines I find mathematics to be the most fascinating in seeing Allah`s ``jalvaa``.
This path , sometimes I feel, leads you to the ``cutting-edge`` of gnosticism. All other ``scientific`` raes are of course the sub-text of mathematics themselves.

There is a huge difference between numbers as ``counts`` and numbers as ``absolutes``. This is where `` Jaltay haiN jibraeel kay pUr jiss maquam pUr``

Mr. Number would do us a favour if he can regale us with concept of the ``golden-rectangle`` & hence the golden-mean which occurs in nature as one of His signs.

#594 by echoboom

1647 ... amazing.

If buttercups buzz`d after the bee,
If boats were on land, churches on sea,
If ponies rode men and if grass ate the cows,
And cats should be chased into holes by the mouse,
If the mamas sold their babies
To the gypsies for half a crown;
If summer were spring and the other way round,
Then all the world would be upside down.

Where do you get this stuff?

#592 by number

Number ... I find you very interesting.

Tell me ... I know there`re many paths/disciplines one can follow to arrive at the conclusion of Allah. One can follow art, literature, music, physics, chemistry and so forth ... all leading to the same conclusion.

Did you arrive at the conclusion through mathematics? Can Allah`s truth be proven mathematically?

Ignore this if it`s a silly question. I was just curious.

Re: # 577 by harish_hyd

Dear Nephew: I am glad that the battle (or is it war?) between uncle and nephew is over.
It would be nice to know who we are interacting with.

``suun toa saheeh jahaaN meiN hai taira fasana kyaa
Kehtaa> hai tujhh ko dushman-i deeN ghaibaana kyaa``

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Aatish!

tr:italics emended words

Listen! just Listen how your story is being told in the world
What the ill-wishers of your creed say behind your back``



It always pays to know the enemy mind.

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THE WORLD
TURNED UPSIDE DOWN

By: Phil Brennan

There was a mid-17th century nonsensical ditty ``The World Turned Upside Down`` that some believe was played by the British as they marched out to surrender at Yorktown while the victorious Americans played Yankee Doodle. Whether it really happened matters only to finicky historians, but if it didn`t it should have; for the British, who in effect had just lost their most important colonies, the world really had turned upside down.

From that moment on, nothing would ever be the same. Although some fighting continued sporadically, a spark of liberty had been ignited in America that would not be extinguished, and the old world order had begun to pass away.

We ought to be hearing it now. The world has not only turned upside down, it`s in flames. And like that day in 1781 nothing will ever be the same. Only this time it`s not only a single nation that has seen its world upended, it`s the entire world wrong side up.

The process of upending began a long time ago, we just failed to recognize it. And in failing to recognize it we gave it impetus. It really began in the 8th century but from a modern perspective, it began in the mid-1990s when a deranged Islamacist jehadist Osama bin Laden, in the name of his revolutionary movement al Qaeda, declared war on the United States.

Bin Laden launched a series of terrorist attacks against the United States, starting with a failed attempt to target U.S. troops in Yemen in 1992, followed by the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the 1993 killing of U.S. soldiers in Somalia, the 1996 the truck bombing of the Khobar Towers Marine barracks in Saudi Arabia, the 1998 bombing of U. S. embassies in East Africa, the failed plot in 1999 to bomb millennium celebrations in Seattle, the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen and finally, the 9/11 horror in /2001.

These were all acts of war.

A world war had begun, and most of the world failed to recognize it. To this day, we refuse to accept the fact that a war far wider than the conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Israeli/Palestinian war is under way. There are only two protagonists in this war - the West and Islamic fundamentalism, but only the Islamists recognize that fact.

In a recent column, Pat Buchanan recalled the late Hilaire Belloc foreseeing the outbreak of the war in 1938. Said the acclaimed British author ``It has always seemed to me ... probable that there would be a resurrection of Islam and that our sons or our grandsons would see the renewal of that tremendous struggle between the Christian culture and what has been for more than a thousand years its greatest opponent.``




In the Quran Islam (it means ``submission``) demands that the entire world must submit to Sharia law which governs both the public and private lives of all Muslims and those under their domination. It is the ultimate aim of al Qaeda - the goal of the worldwide jihad and a goal the imperiled West refuses to admit exists as we go about muttering the shibboleth that Islam is a ``peaceful religion.``

One reason for the West`s failure to understand the true nature of Islamic fundamentalism is the decadent West`s inability to understand the nature of absolute, do-or-die commitment to a cause, any cause. In the Western mind, martyrdom is an outmoded concept - no cause is worth dying for. The materialist West`s serves its only deity - the self and its creature comforts.

In the eyes of Islam`s adherents the decadent Western immersion in secularist materialism is to them both an abomination and an opportunity - a weakness that can be exploited. This Western weakness blinds us to the real threat - a faith whose adherents are convinced of the rightness of their cause and who are willing to die to bring about its triumph. It a classic case of belief against non-belief. They believe in something worth dying for; we believe nothing is worth dying for. And, as it has been said ``you can`t beat something with nothing.`` Abortion ``rights`` may be a dandy political issue but nobody is willing to die to protect a woman`s right to butcher the baby in her womb.

The West`s belief in nothingness has little appeal to the idealist in all of us; we can`t recruit crusaders for our cause because we have no cause but ourselves and our material well-being, scarcely a rallying cry to those seeking something higher than themselves and a self-centered lifestyle. If the Devil wears Prago, so now do we all. It`s the vestment of the times.

Contrast that with Islam, which offers a greater goal than self-aggrandizement. It offers something to which one can be totally committed. It demands total commitment in return for a reason to live and a reason to die. And it is sweeping across the world like a raging wildfire, gathering up millions of recruits in all the four corners of the globe.

Writes Pat Buchanan `` Islamists are taking over in Somalia. They are in power in Sudan. The Muslim Brotherhood won 60 percent of the races it contested in Egypt. Hezbollah swept the board in southern Lebanon. Hamas seized power from Fatah on the West Bank and Gaza. The Shia parties who hearken to Ayatollah Sistani brushed aside our favorites, Chalabi and Iyad Allawi, in the Iraqi elections. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the most admired Iranian leader since Khomeini. In Afghanistan, the Taliban is staging a comeback.

He could have added that Islam is becoming the dominant religion in all of Africa. According to islamawareness.net in Algeria its 32 million Muslims constitute 99 percent of the population. Zaire has 15 Million Muslims (25% of Population) , Egypt 71 Million Muslims (94% of Population), Liberia .07 Million Muslims (20% of Population), Mali 10.5 Million Muslims (90% of Population), Morocco 1.5 Million Muslims (99% of Population), Niger 10 Million Muslims (85% of Population), Nigeria 67 Million Muslims (50% of Population), Rwanda 1.28 Million Muslims (16% of Population), Senegal 10.4 Million Muslims (94% of Population), Somalia 9 Million Muslims (99% of Population), Sudan 26.6 million Muslims (70% of the population),South Africa 1 Million Muslims (2.5% of Population) and Sudan 26.6 Million Muslims (70% of Population).

It is the fastest growing religion in the world.

Pat Buchanan explains: ``The idea for which our many of our adversaries fight is a compelling one. They believe there is but one God, Allah, that Muhammad is his prophet, that Islam, or submission to the Quran, is the only path to paradise and that a Godly society should be governed according to the Sharia, the law of Islam. Having tried other ways and failed, they are coming home to Islam. This has all happened in the last year. And where are we winning?

``What idea do we have to offer?`` Pat asks. ``Americans believe that freedom comports with human dignity, that only a democratic and free-market system can ensure the good life for all, as it has done in the West and is doing in Asia. ``

To a mind seeking goals higher than the alleged good life, that barely suffices.

Writes Pat Buchanan ``What America needs to understand is something unusual for us: From Morocco to Pakistan, we are no longer seen by the majority as the good guys`` and he asks ``If Islamic rule is an idea taking hold among the Islamic masses, how does even the best army on earth stop it? Do we not need a new policy?``

A conflict that began in the 8th century and has flared up from time to time over the centuries has been re-ignited, and the enemy is out in full force all over a world turned upside down.

If you listen carefully you might even hear the lyrics, penned in 1647:

If buttercups buzz`d after the bee,
If boats were on land, churches on sea,
If ponies rode men and if grass ate the cows,
And cats should be chased into holes by the mouse,
If the mamas sold their babies
To the gypsies for half a crown;
If summer were spring and the other way round,
Then all the world would be upside down.

To which I`ll add ``if losers won, and winners lost.``

Tempori Parendum

(Crusader`s Motto: ``We must move with the times``)

Re: # 592

> Your question: Allah (swt) who?

> Answer: The one who has created the universe, you and me.

Wrong anser. This calls for negative marking.

Re: # 579 by harish_hyd

Truth for one may not be truth for someone else. I agree.

Your question: Allah (swt) who?

Answer: The one who has created the universe, you and me.

Re: # 580 by harish_hyd

INDEED!

Beautiful word

Thank you

True to their jaat ... IMs were involved in the mumbai blasts ...

LeT planned 11/7, Mahim boys executed it


Request to muslims - pls rape the sekulars in india first, the next time you guys decide to have a Direct Action Day.

Re: # 582 by AlephNull

Thanks for the post mortem on me before death. The results are encouraging. I like the
word OLD. Thanks for calling me a gentleman. Now I can interact without fear.

#587 by harish_hyd

It doesn`t have to be a coherent or organised or unified response. Quite on the contrary it has to be just the opposite ... like the japanese water torture ... drip ... drip ...

It takes a single ant to crawl up an elephant`s snout and feast on its brain, and the elephant is down on its knees ..................

#586 by zeemax

But the battle is a bigger one now ... not restricted to camels & cadillacs ...

Whatever it is, the fact is that the US is not going to lose this war if not for its military might, for the sheer inability of its enemies to forge a coherent and organized response big enough to hurt the US.