Mumbai Rocked by Seven Bomb Blasts

Re: # 554 by harish_hyd

I am not defending anyone. I am stating the facts. If you do not like them, it is too bad.
Truth does not need defence. If you do not like the message, please do not shoot the
messenger.

...contd...#568

And yes I`ve been following the proceedings conducted by Rehmat Husain Jaffery. This is the guy who is an impeccable judge and had practically exonerated NS in the hijacking case by giving him enough grounds to be let-off on appeal despite musharraf`s pressure. He did this by letting-off everyone else on the same evidence. Rehmat Jaffery seems to be of the view that Nishtar Park was NOT a suicide operation. There was some suspicious wooden frame on the stage which blew up.

Do elaborate.

#565 by Urstruly

Urstruly, I have read your previous articles on this forum, and I have great respect for your ability in deciphering details. Would you care to elaborate that if this is a red-herring, towards what objective? But there were pieces of leg and stuff as well. I`m totally perplexed. Yes the Nishtar Park episode was weird and no clue yet even though the failed bombers of Musharraf, Aziz as well as the Corp Commander, all were all found, tried and executed in a jiffy.... no problem.

Helppppp!

Not sure why so much importance is being given to what the US says at this point. India is way ahead of the US in terms of being a target for attacks from Pakistani soil but the US eventually gets there.

Before October 2001, inspite of its brutal attacks on Indian civilians for 7-8 years, Laskhar E Toiba was not even banned by the US. However since then, the US has been convicting Americans for associating with LeT, inspite of defense lawyers` protestations that LeT had not been banned by the US before October 2001. The same prudence is being shown by the Australian govt and prob. the French and Canadian govts.

India had been talking of training camps run by Pakistan for many years - after 9/11 the US invaded Afghanistan and cleaned them up.

The US are slow learners but they will get there someday

Mantolives #561 {``Do you think you are Goldameir or something? ``}

Manto Bhai,
NO! don`t let the physical resemblance fool you. :)

Re: # 564

I thought you would know better. If you are following the proceedings of Nishtar Park tragedy, you would know that govrnment agents are planting severed heads at the scenes of assasinations to direct the attention of public towards you know who. Is this working? Probably not because every local pakistani I speak to points his fingers towards government and cia agents.

#562 by Mantolives

No evidence of Pakistan’s hand in blasts: US

Bit of a revelation today. Emerging details have suggested that the suicider who killed Hasan Turabi was a Bangladeshi. That was my first thought as well when I saw the severed head on TV. It certainly looked like a Bengali and nothing like from any Pakistani of any type.

Now that`s really something to consider. Were the Bombay bombers Bengalis? Vow!

#560 by harish_hyd

all in knots when the US is doing what it is doing?

Bhra I`m NOT in any kind of knots. I know US is trying to bring peace to us and we are trying to bring peace to the US. It`s only who can deliver MORE peace. :-)

No evidence of Pakistan’s hand in blasts: US

WASHINGTON, July 17: The US has so far not seen any evidence to suggest that Pakistan or Pakistan-based groups were involved in last week’s Mumbai blasts, a State Department official said on Monday.

“The evidence to who is responsible, we have not seen yet … we will wait for the results of the investigation,” said Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher while briefing South and Central Asian journalists on United States policy ambitions in the two regions.

Describing the blasts as a ‘horrible tragedy,’ Mr Boucher said they were executed by “somebody with evil intent, with local knowledge … lot of planning … and a lot of malice.”

The Bush administration’s point man for South and Central Asia also disagreed with the suggestion that America’s relations with Pakistan were on the decline. The US, he said, was assisting Pakistan in the areas that were important for its development as a modern and moderate state, such as economy, education, energy, as well as being involved in a strategic partnership with the South Asian nation.

Asked if the US believed Pakistan was not doing enough to curb terrorism along the Afghan border, Mr Boucher said: “Terrorism is a tough (problem) and we are all in that fight together.”

The US, he said, was helping Pakistan fight terrorism so that “we can beat this big threat to Pakistan’s success”.

Mr Boucher said the Indo-US nuclear agreement will be formalised in September after the August recess of the US Congress. “The bill will be up for discussion in the House of Representatives next week, and in the Senate soon afterward. I am hesitant to comment on the timeline, but my estimate is that the final draft of the agreement will be formalised in September,” Mr Boucher said.

In his opening statement, the United States official outlined what he said was America’s ‘ambitious agenda’ for South and Central Asia in which promoting regional trade plays a pivotal role.

He also spoke of the possibility of linking the two regions with the Middle East, adding that South and Central Asian regions offered ‘many opportunities’ for trade and development.

The US official noted that some former Soviet states were still linked to Russia and said that the US would “want to see new ties develop” in that region. But he dispelled the impression that the US was competing for influence in Central Asia with Russia and China.

The US, he said, wanted major world powers to work with each other in creating more opportunities for the people of the region and ‘not to compete with each other’. “We do not want these states to be subservient to a major power … subservient to a single market … but to have more and better opportunities. We expect China to be involved in this region.”

The United States, he said, was also involved in a project to bring electricity from Central Asia to Karachi and in the development of a trade route that passed through Afghanistan and Pakistan, linking India and China with Central Asia.

All these efforts were aimed at ‘making trade flow,’ said Mr Boucher, adding that the United States would also like to see greater commercial cooperation among South Asian nations and supported the South Asian free trade agreement.

Sadna...

Not just Pakistanis... but every sane and level headed person has condemned your unprincipled, dishonest and shameless hatred and bigotry at some point or the other ... so lets not get into you Pakis this and you Pakis that... Get a life. You are a loser living in NJ and you making threats of open war ... how convenient.

Do you think you are Goldameir or something?

#559 by zeemax

Didn`t you know war brings peace? Haan? Can there be peace unless there`s a war first? Are you a PhD?

Bhai Zee, then why are Muslims (including YOU) all in knots when the US is doing what it is doing? Can`t they comfort themselves with the thought that the US is doing it to bring peace to the world?

#558 by harish_hyd

Yaar Harish ... why do you harp upon Islam being or not a religion of peace? Didn`t you know war brings peace? Haan? Can there be peace unless there`s a war first? Are you a PhD?

This reminds me when I entrusted someone with the task of organising a `sit down` dinner at a conference. When we arrived at the venue, it was a `buffet`. I asked the gentleman what the hell was that and he said ``well .. you said sit down dinner didn`t you? You take the dinner and sit down!``

Isn`t it the same with war & peace?

#557 by zeemax

The point is you should do better than the same old same old arguments .... he deserves it ...

And my point is that we`ve been through all this before. Islam may be a religion of peace but the violent lot amongst Muslims have made their presence felt throughout the world while the moderates (if one can call them that) act as the apologists by making such statements, so this argument is beginning to sound rather tired and hollow.

#556 by harish_hyd

The point is you should do better than the same old same old arguments .... he deserves it ...

#555 by zeemax

Number is not only an ``educated Muslim``, he`s a PhD in Maths, which is more than what could be said about most of his detractors here ...

Most of us don`t go about bandying about our academic qualifications on an anonymous Internet forum, so what`s the point here?

#554 by harish_hyd

Number is not only an ``educated Muslim``, he`s a PhD in Maths, which is more than what could be said about most of his detractors here ...