Tushar Barot July 14, 2006
#92 Posted by Behram1 on July 17, 2006 7:04:48 pm
Whenever one (1) Israeli is killed the western reporters would equate it to 60 Americans because that is what the population difference is between the two countries is (some 300 million Americans to some 5 million Israeli).
As of today, 200 Israelis have been reported being killed in the war between Israel and Hizbullah. This is equivalent of approximately 12,000 American lives. It is also reported that some 200 Lebanese have been killed.
It seems to me that Israel has finally met its match.
Respectfully submitted,
#91 Posted by hamidm2 on July 17, 2006 6:07:37 pm
.......... and for those of you are complaining about `profiling` in new york, thank god you are not in bombay : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5187100.stm
....... but remember, you (and i) deserve it ........
p.s. i am seriously considering reverting to the religion of my forefathers - anyone have a suggestion for a name ?.... i was considering gopinath rajgoplachari krishnaswami ....... f**k! ....... soon i will have to give up those juicy steaks that i love so much and start eating idlee and other offal ... yuck !
#90 Posted by hamidm2 on July 17, 2006 6:01:12 pm
........ on the other hand, people who are supposed to be fighting for their freedom did this :
At least 48 people have been killed and more than 60 injured in an attack on a market in the town of Mahmoudiya south of Baghdad, Iraqi officials have said.
Mortars were fired into the open-air market before at least 20 gunmen opened fire on the panicking crowds.
Many women and children were among the casualties, while most of the victims were believed to be Shia Muslims.
............. i guess i don`t have to editorialize .......... conclusion: there is something inherently wrong with this ideology of death ..........
#89 Posted by hamidm2 on July 17, 2006 5:57:44 pm
viva bush !
...... i knew there was a reason i voted for this man - twice ! ..........here is what he said when he thought nobody was listening :
`` See the irony is that what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this s--t and it`s over,`` Bush told Blair as he chewed on a buttered roll.
......... i have always maintained that the man is what you see - the real enchilada ! ........ if only the damn islamists would get it - but no, they are hell bent on attaining martyrdom so that they can have sex with multiple women !
#88 Posted by hamidm2 on July 17, 2006 5:55:53 pm
viva bush !
...... i knew there was a reason i voted for this man - twice ! ..........here is what he said when he thought nobody was listening :
````See the irony is that what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this s
and it`s over,`` Bush told Blair as he chewed on a buttered roll.
......... i have always maintained that the man is what you see - the real enchilada ! ........ if only the damn islamists would get it - but no, they are hell bent on attaining martyrdom so that they can have sex with multiple women !
#87 Posted by hamidm2 on July 17, 2006 4:57:37 pm
zeemax,
..... you, and people like you, are the problem .........i do not have to elaborate - you know what i am talking about ......... compare hizbullah`s dream to israel`s reality - which do you prefer ?......... i, for one, would rather live in tel aviv than in a beirut run by hizbullah - you make up your mind and then choose sides .............
..... you, and people like you, are the problem .........i do not have to elaborate - you know what i am talking about ......... compare hizbullah`s dream to israel`s reality - which do you prefer ?......... i, for one, would rather live in tel aviv than in a beirut run by hizbullah - you make up your mind and then choose sides .............
#86 Posted by HP on July 17, 2006 2:33:02 pm
The greatest democracy in the world is now reduced to blocking the blogs....
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/17blog.htm
See no evil hear no evil and read no evil....Is Musharaf leading India now?
``Bloggers in India are getting together to protest against the sudden blocking of popular Google-owned blog-hosting site Blogger by some Internet Service Providers (ISPs) like Spectranet, Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Limited (MTNL), Reliance Powersurfer, Airtel Broadband and Sify.
On July 15, Mridula Dwivedi, a teacher of management studies in Gurgaon first discovered that visiting any blogspot blog -- such as, say Mumbai Help -- returned the message, `Site Blocked!` Her ISP, Spectranet, confirmed they had blocked some sites based on government directives.
J Grewal, Spectranet`s Delhi representative at the National Internet exchange of India, told this reporter that, on July 15, the Department of Telecommunications (DoT) had sent ISPs a list of sites to be blocked. R H Sharma, senior engineer with MTNL, said the list ran into some 22 pages.
Now, several bloggers have organised themselves into a Bloggers` Collective and are planning to file a Right To Information application to obtain the list.
Anil Saxena of Spectranet confirmed that the list sent by the DoT contained names of particular blogs, but added that Blogspot as a whole had not been blocked. This is contrary to the experience of customers like Dwivedi, who are still unable to view sites hosted on Blogspot, in addition to those on Typepad and Yahoo!`s Geocities. ``The list is confidential and I can`t make it public,`` said Saxena.
Under the Information Technology Act, 2000, a body called the Computer Emergency Response Team, or CERT-IN, was created along the lines of similar authorities the world over. Although its main task is in the domain of Internet security, it also oversees Internet censorship under a clause that seeks to ensure `balanced flow of information.` Any government department seeking a block on any web site has to approach CERT-IN, which then instructs the DoT to block the site after confirming the authenticity of the complaint.
Web sites can be blocked if they contain pornography, speeches of hate, contempt, slander or defamation, or if they promote gambling, racism, violence or terrorism.
``Such sites may be blocked within the provisions of the Fundamental Right to free speech and expression, granted in India`s Constitution,`` said cyber-law expert Praveen Dalal, adding, ``If, however, the blocking is arbitrary, unreasonable and unfair, it would be in violation of Articles 14, 19 and 21 of the Constitution of India.``
The trouble is bloggers don`t even know which sites the DoT wants blocked. To make matters worse, ISPs seem to be blocking entire domains on which these blogs are hosted.
In 2003, one of the first things CERT-IN did was to approve the blocking of an obscure mailing list run by a banned militant outfit, the Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC) of the Khasi tribe in Meghalaya. Ironically, the popularity and visibility of the list went up by leaps and bounds, despite it being blocked by all ISPs. Many could still see the list via email or proxy surfing.
This time, something similar seems to have happened, to not one but three domains. However, CERT-IN`s Director, Dr Gulshan Rai, said he was unaware of the problem and would not be able to respond ``off-hand``. In a telephone interview, he told this reporter, ``Somebody must have blocked some sites. What is your problem?``
Bloggers certainly think of it as a problem though, and are all set to react.``
#85 Posted by tahmed32 on July 17, 2006 12:32:47 pm
zeemax: Before any comments, I would first like to make sure we are working on the same set of facts: 1. The Israeli-Lebanon border was quiet until Hizbullah started shelling israeli villages, and kidnapped two israeli soldiers. 2. The Lebanese government made no effort to get Hizbullah to stop shelling or to return the kidnapped soldiers.
Are these the facts as you understand them also?
Are these the facts as you understand them also?
#84 Posted by zeemax on July 17, 2006 12:06:40 pm
tahmed/hamidm,
I suppose you gentlemen do not understand why some families/women/children are pouring back into Lebanon from Syria while others are lining up to get out .... They are a different kind of people.
But you won`t understand if you regard Hizbollah as `terrorists`. If they weren`t, they wouldn`t be taking on a power like Israel ... singlehandedly ... regardless of consequences.
That`s the problem with the wailing of horrible hindoos ... they`ll take injustice but raise their dhotis in return. Not these Muslims ...
Where`s your conscience?
I suppose you gentlemen do not understand why some families/women/children are pouring back into Lebanon from Syria while others are lining up to get out .... They are a different kind of people.
But you won`t understand if you regard Hizbollah as `terrorists`. If they weren`t, they wouldn`t be taking on a power like Israel ... singlehandedly ... regardless of consequences.
That`s the problem with the wailing of horrible hindoos ... they`ll take injustice but raise their dhotis in return. Not these Muslims ...
Where`s your conscience?
#83 Posted by tahmed32 on July 17, 2006 11:33:37 am
hamidm #82 I have no problem with what you are saying about muslim terrorism. Of course it is a problem - and Pakistanis themselves are the biggest victims, given the political instability, economic loss and not to mention the loss of human life they have caused. I am prepared to discuss this with an intelligent person.
But I am not going to waste my time discussing anything with these ``bunch of idiots`` as you say (i.e. the muslim-hating HIB programmers). Just as I will not waste my time trying to make Masadhi honest, or trying to get Zeemax to let go of his conspiracy theories. That is all I was saying below.
But I am not going to waste my time discussing anything with these ``bunch of idiots`` as you say (i.e. the muslim-hating HIB programmers). Just as I will not waste my time trying to make Masadhi honest, or trying to get Zeemax to let go of his conspiracy theories. That is all I was saying below.
#82 Posted by hamidm2 on July 17, 2006 11:24:44 am
tahmed,
....... even though i think that most of the horrible hindoos beating their scrawny chicken breasts and flapping their dhotis are a bunch of idiots, we pakis on the other side are equally bad because of our obsession with islam which, like it or not, is the root cause of most of the trouble in the world today ............ as people keep on saying: most muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim ...... and even more worse is the fact that `moderate` muslims encourage and, in some cases, actively support these terrorists with their wishy-washy platitudes .............. the ummah needs an enema ....
#81 Posted by tahmed32 on July 17, 2006 9:49:18 am
#80 it is not ignorance. i have already heard such views from your muslim-hating colleagues from india. and i have already questioned these views, and found there is nothing beneath this big words you write on chowk. you are hollow men, like empty drums.
i have better things to do with my time on chowk than waste it trying to find any substance behind your big talk.
this is all you people are capable of talking about. read hamidm #65 on more about twits like you.
i have better things to do with my time on chowk than waste it trying to find any substance behind your big talk.
this is all you people are capable of talking about. read hamidm #65 on more about twits like you.
#80 Posted by krishna_abcd on July 17, 2006 9:00:21 am
#79 by tahmed32
I guess in a way you are justified in your belief system. A lot of times in life, for a lot of people, ignorance is bliss. For example, I once watched a documentary where a husband was cheating on his wife, and when someone told the wife, with associated proof, she told the informant - ``Why did you have to tell me this - I was happier not knowing``.
So I don`t want to grudge you your beliefs if they make you happy. Only problem is (and this is why I keep bringing it up), you might be raising the next mass killer who has inherited the blindness of belief from you, but does not selectively pick and choose only the harmless things (mostly) like you.
I guess in a way you are justified in your belief system. A lot of times in life, for a lot of people, ignorance is bliss. For example, I once watched a documentary where a husband was cheating on his wife, and when someone told the wife, with associated proof, she told the informant - ``Why did you have to tell me this - I was happier not knowing``.
So I don`t want to grudge you your beliefs if they make you happy. Only problem is (and this is why I keep bringing it up), you might be raising the next mass killer who has inherited the blindness of belief from you, but does not selectively pick and choose only the harmless things (mostly) like you.
#79 Posted by tahmed32 on July 17, 2006 8:26:40 am
#78 thank you for volunteering your views. i have no interest in them. :-)
#78 Posted by krishna_abcd on July 17, 2006 8:16:35 am
#76 by tahmed32
[You are quite right. Because I am very comfortable being a muslim per my understanding of Islam....}
Have you ever asked yourself the question - what if all your selective picking and choosing and interpreting of the Koran is wrong? What if Muhammad was REALLY a pedophile and mass killer? What if he REALLY made it all up? What then? Where does that leave you?
Ask yourself this. If you have any intelligence, it should leave you in a very uncomfortable place.
[You are quite right. Because I am very comfortable being a muslim per my understanding of Islam....}
Have you ever asked yourself the question - what if all your selective picking and choosing and interpreting of the Koran is wrong? What if Muhammad was REALLY a pedophile and mass killer? What if he REALLY made it all up? What then? Where does that leave you?
Ask yourself this. If you have any intelligence, it should leave you in a very uncomfortable place.
#77 Posted by nasah on July 17, 2006 7:43:38 am
Blaming the Indian Muslim community for the Bastards of Bombay carnage is like blaming the whole Indian Hindu community for Gujerat. Members of all communties died on those trains.
Ballu Khan is right Tushar`s Hindutva Tush is on display with the usual anti-muslim crap.
btw -- what the hell that decadent Muslim Personal Law has to do with the Bombay tragedy.
Control yourselves folks -- unless you want to have a Hindu-Muslim riot on this Chowk also -- or do we want to start another Indo-Pakistan war on Chowk.
Ballu Khan is right Tushar`s Hindutva Tush is on display with the usual anti-muslim crap.
btw -- what the hell that decadent Muslim Personal Law has to do with the Bombay tragedy.
Control yourselves folks -- unless you want to have a Hindu-Muslim riot on this Chowk also -- or do we want to start another Indo-Pakistan war on Chowk.
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