When Locals in Locals lost their Lives - July 11, 2006

#19 by rashid_s on July 20, 2006 3:11am PT


Remember Ghodse?


The Paki army killed a bunch of muslims in 71...So they`re probably responsible for killing muslims civilians in Lebanon and gaza..

Pakis aren`t the brightest bulbs in the UN chandelier..

arjun_m@18, Probebly both or even a Maratha! Remember Ghodse?
Rashid

#16 by rashid_s on July 19, 2006 8:47pm PT

Dude..who do you think the terrorists were? Amish? Lutherans?

#16 by rashid_s on July 19, 2006 8:47pm PT


FV, our dear (former ?) editor at chowk (& a muslimah :] ) is about to write another article.


The focus will be on the 120Rs cup of coffee she had @ the Sea lounge.

Wiseguyin @15.
Your anger is justified IF it is established what you say to be true!
But the followers of Paedophiles & Savages who took the lives of non-combatant and innocent people can not be, please note, can not be MUSLIMS! Deranged fanatics yes!!
Rashid

It is established the muslims (the followers of paedophiles & savages) have done the blasts.

FV, our dear (former ?) editor at chowk (& a muslimah :] ) is about to write another article.
Lemme guess the title - ``They roundup and question skullcaps, don`t they ?``

Re: # 8
The ID card thing sounds like a good idea.
Only problem, methinks, would be to effectively implement it.
With the number of people travelling on M`bai`s locals each day, it would be a nightmare for the officials appointed to conduct random checks.
But y`know, I watched this movie, once. Minority Report. Showed a possible future-scenario wherein everyone (at least in the U.S.A.) was retina-scanned, when they entered any public building. What if...
Heh. Wishful thinking, eh?
But you`re right. Carrying railway ID should be made mandatory for all train travellers, local or otherwise.

Re: # 6
And now, as we`re beginning to recover, the issue of responsibility and punishment is in all our minds. I agree with you on that, ma`am. The wronged must be given justice.
The wrong must be judged.
And hell yes, punished. Severely.

Re: # 4
And Bombay will welcome you back, at the end of this month.
But could that be the very problem?
That Bombay welcomes everyone?
Someone once said, there should be a visa system, for entry into Mumbai.
Sounded like a dumb idea then...
But I`ll tell you, Devkant, there`re some commuters, this day, to whom it`s not sounding like such a bad idea after all.
Highly impractical, yes...but then, something`s got to be done.
What say?
And, oh. Please do take care while travelling by local train in Mumbai, this month-end. :)

Re: # 10
Thank you, bj2.
I`m glad you thought the article was fine.
:)

The article is fine. There is no need for the apologetic footnote.

Re: # 3
Absolutely right, zeemax. It`s a bloody (literally) vicious cycle.
Why were those people killed? Because they were there, say we. Why were those people there? To prove a point, say the hate-indoctrinated ones. Why prove a point using THOSE PEOPLE, we ask. Because they were there is the reply that`s heard...
But this time, we don`t know who`s saying it.
And yes, we are all in it, together, for the good and for the bad.

This past Sunday`s Mumbai Mirror carries the story of one Dr Jalees Shakeel Ansari who planned 1993 serila train blasts. The article quotes an officer saying that there is a `cartel` of blast conspirators who exploit the hurt felt by Muslim youths. The cartel has two main specialist groups: Shariah and Strategy. The Shariah group has religiou people who brainwash gullible youths into believing in Jihad. The Strategy group equips youths with knowledge of how-to of acts.

I got this Mumbai Mirror edition with Time of India sunday edition. Sunday TOI carries a story of how easy it is to buy a stick of gelatine for mere 50 rupees. So only techology they have to master is of hitching a timer device. This time they used timers hidden in pencils. I get the impression from all this that it must be pretty easy (except for timer thing) to build a bomb. I thought Ammonium Nitrate was a fertiliser. It seems either dynamite and/or AmNitr was used as explosive. This revelations are scary because I thought info about timers etc can be easily found from a well-stocked library or over internet. I think so best thing to do is to make carrying ID mandatory and recording of ID of each and every individual entering railway premises before entry and also random checks on board trains. With credit card type ID cards this should be possible.

these blasts r really bloody spot on mankind........but wat to say to those shameless people who did it n even not ashamed of it.....

Sudeep, I saw some of the injured first hand. Yes, the question does crop up, Why? I`m of the opinion that irrespective of religion, community, nationality, the guilty must be punished. Am not an expert on the hows and whys, but that`s how I feel. At this point of time, forgiveness is not in my thoughts. The Mumbaite must co-operate with the cops and help them in any way they can. That`s spirit, too. That`s the only way we can keep our city safe. ALL of us must gear up towards it.

Re: # 1

Hey A.H,
why do you post this here? How is it interesting to a Paki A.H like u?

Dear Sudeep,

Your thoughts have brought back some wonderful memories of my train travel in Bombay. Having escaped the Mulund blast by a whisker, I completely sympathize with you and all the travellers of local trains in Bombay when you ask: -

``Speaking on behalf of my family (yes, I call it that because I believe it is that) of local-train travellers in Mumbai, I guarantee, at the end of all this, when the media finally tires of the 7/11 story, all us relatives will STILL keep going back to that same first thought, that same first question``

No matter what happens, once I reach Bombay by month end, I will start train travel again. Its a facinating world in those trains and yes, the bond the commuters share goes a long way in life, even though we may never speak a word to them.

Rgds,

Devkant.

Dear Sudeep,

Thanks for bringing us the individual commuter`s point of view so effectively.

You`ve asked in the end `why`?.

The answer is `Because they were there`.

If not them then someone else. In an airport, on a plane, at their workplace, at home, in a tunnel or bunker or wherever. It doesn`t matter where, as long as someone is `there`. Targets are just that. Forget the human angle.

But as you said yourself ``What matters is that you`re all in it, together.``

Rgds

Re: # 1

The living are the living
and the dead ones are the dead.
How does it matter if he wears a cap
or a turban, on his head?

On 7/11, barriers broke
as the bombs didn`t recognise `religion`.
Pujaris prayed for those who were buried
and Maulanas, for those who went up in smoke.

That day, no one saw but the colour red;
for colours of skin/clothes, we went colour-blind.
As we helped the wounded & counted the dead,
all we recognised was Mankind.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=
97119&version=1&template_id=40&parent_id=22

Mumbai Muslims give blood to Hindu victims
Published: Thursday, 13 July, 2006, 10:22 PM Doha Time

MUMBAI: Indian Muslims queued for hours on yesterday to give blood to their Hindu neighbours wounded in the Mumbai train bombings, in a rare show of harmony in a city with a long history of rioting between the two communities.

``We don’t care whether it’s a Hindu or a Muslim who gets our blood as long as we can save them,`` said Abdul Khan, one of dozens of Muslim men waiting in line at the blood bank at Siddarth Hospital, near one blast site at Jogeshwari station. Many see Tuesday’s deadly strikes that killed more than 180 people and wounded more than 700 as the latest in a campaign of violence by Islamist militants fighting Indian rule in the disputed region of Kashmir.

This has long fomented suspicions between Mumbai’s Hindus and the minority Muslim population, and often triggered violent rioting. Mumbai, a metropolis of 17mn people, has been hit by a series of bomb blasts in the past one and half decades, the worst a series of explosions in 1993 that killed more than 260 people. Past attacks were usually blamed on Muslim groups trying to avenge Muslim deaths in widespread religious rioting after Hindu zealots demolished a 16th century mosque in northern India.

But such thoughts were far from Pasha Mian Sheikh’s mind when he threw open the doors of the Islamia Arabia Mosque, metres from the tracks near the suburb of Jogeshwari, to offer shelter, food and water to the walking wounded.

``People are trying to break our harmony but they have failed,`` he said of the bombers.

``Hundreds of Muslims yesterday showed a lot of courage and harmony when they helped out their Hindu brothers. Hindus and Muslims are together in Mumbai.``

Leaders of India’s hardline Hindu Shiv Sena party said they had been overwhelmed by the Muslim response. ``Hindus and Muslims walked hand in hand yesterday,`` said Manohar Kargaonkar, a Shiv Sena official.

``When you read a newspaper you always find that a Muslim terrorist is behind subversive activity. But these people have shown what brotherhood is.``

Analysts and community leaders say weariness after decades of conflict as well as rising prosperity from the country’s booming economy have helped cool tempers between Hindus and Muslims.

``We are getting increasing reports of Hindu-Muslim harmony from Mumbai this year unlike the earlier times, Maulana Jalaluddin Umri, a top Islamic cleric, told Reuters by phone from Delhi.

``They have realised terrorists belong to one community or the other, but what people have learnt is not to give in to terror tactics.``

Meanwhile, bomb victims recovering at Mumbai’s hospitals say they did not worry about the religion of those who donated blood.

``We will never give in to communal violence,`` said Lata Sirsha, who was injured on head and legs. ``This is the real Mumbai which cannot be defeated.``

Muslim community leaders said they would set up a blood donation ``camp`` in a show of unity with Hindu victims of the blasts.

``We’re talking to the hospitals and we’re asking if... we can have a blood donation camp in the community,`` said Dr Anwar Amir, the secretary of the Mumbai Aman committee.

``As soon as the Muslim population heard the blasts they came forward and were on the tracks helping to move the dead bodies and rushed them to the hospital.

``Muslims, especially women, made omelettes and brought tea and biscuits to help. It’s the resilience of the Mumbaiker people that they all come forward condemning this dastardly act.``

A senior leader of the former ruling Hindu nationalist party, the BJP, Gopinath Munde, said the blasts had helped to bring out the best in the two communities.

``This is the true spirit of Mumbai which keeps rising in each calamity.

``Train commuters, both Hindus and Muslims, who travel daily share a common bond and this was seen yesterday.`` – Agencies