Escalation of Hostilities in Middle East

Re: # 47 and yet the home secretary of the UK keeps visiting the US to figure out how they do things right here...starting from Howard through to straw, all the way to reid!

Wait dont tell me that they allow ****** terrorists to prevail compared to the US where they are ruthlessly put down!

``As of the morning of July 19, Israeli bombardments of Lebanese civilian residential districts and public infrastructure have murdered 300 Lebanese, wounded 1,000, and displaced 500,000. The Lebanese prime minister said that Israel`s attack has caused ``unimaginable losses`` (AP)

``seems to me that this is exactly what the people of lebanon would want if they were `normal` and not muslim .............``(Hamidm)

great satire hamidm...great satire!

#50 by nasah on July 20, 2006 3:39pm PT

What`s the link for your quote? when I read this part - ``have murdered 300 Lebanese`` - it was obvious that this wasn`t an AP news article..

sure enough, this from an editorial by Paul Craig Roberts and the racist website vdare.com is only too happy to run with it.

#47 by anzar on July 20, 2006 2:55pm PT

Why don`t you question the root cause of why Lebanon is being bombed? Has it ever occured to you that maybe muslims need to do something to address the root cause of that?

what`s good for the goose and all that..

Israel is totally wrong on this one, and the whole world is condemning their actions. IDF will lose in its war against the people of Lebanon. Israel should grow up and release all Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners and get serious in talks with its neighbors.

Respectfully submitted,

Olmert and Amir Peretz are war criminals -- deserving to be hanged by the nearest lamppost thru another series of Nuremberg war crime trials.

They are the new face of Terrorism in the Middle East -- targeting deliberately civilians men women and children in hundred and thousands -- in an orgy of indiscriminate mass murder -- burying whole neighborhood with school children alive under the debris of deliberately demolished houses over their heads……

Folks hear this hear this – TO KILL CIVILIANS is NOW 100 % KOSHER – the new Olmert/Peretz/PatheticPerez cabal says: …..IT IS OK!...kill the no good for nothin innocent civilian bastards they don`t deserve to live…..kill kill

IT IS A OK….!

-- and why not -- there is always the blessings of another civilian killer -- gangsta rapper -- George of the Jungle Bush....with `Yo Blair` -- spreading the shit.... all over the ME..

now nobody from the West should complain -- because the Israeli shit has now made killing of men women children by Palestinian shitty suicide bombers -- 100% Halal -- as well….

It is A OK for Abdul the Suicide Bomber to kill good-fo-nothin innocent civilians…that`s new West ern permissivness..!

Bless you Western guys -- 1/3 of the three thousand wounded and three hundred Lebanese dead are innocent children....three cheers for the Judeo/Christian shitty morality.....

Our shitty President says that this `shit` in the Middle East should not end thru a ceasefire -- right in middle when it is getting interesting -- there is not enough blood and gore yet -- let the horror movie play a few weeks more -- at the box office for the pleasure of sophisticated born-again Western audience..... with good taste...

Who backs immediate ceasefire? http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00170/p1-210706_170715a.jpg
The Independent

The demand by the western thUGGs to cease hostilities will come once the Israelis start screaming. Their people in shelters are moaning that they do not have beds, T.Vs & that the Mayor is indiscriminately forcing ``immigrant`` Israelis to bundle-up with them...the worst ones are Russians who have been ``settled`` at the borders to watch fireworks before getting barbecued. Thos with US passports are near the airport. Go & figure that.

It is an Allah given opportunity for Hizb & Hamaas. Israel has never been tackled thus & Inshallah with the Islreali population accustomed to ``good`` life will be the first one to cry ``uncle``

It is very very important to fluch out the tojan-donkeys, otherwise known as liberaloons, secularoons, munafiquoons, & murtadoons. They love to keep their wards under a life-support system, such is their humanism so that they can perform euthanasia as when they consider conditions ``appropriate`` & in-line with their agendas.

As faisaluno so rightly posted this by that great voice of freedom struggle; The Reverand Martin Luther--the one from the christian madressa.

Thanks a million faisaluno:

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Martin Luther King Jr.`s Letter From A Birmingham Jail.



``I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro`s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen`s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ``order`` than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ``I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action``; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man`s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ``more convenient season.`` Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection

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http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_ID=11712

Profile: Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah

Sheikh Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah is the leader of the Lebanese Hezbollah resistance movement. He was born in 1960 in the Bourji Hammoud neighborhood east of the Lebanese capital, Beirut.

In 1975, the civil war in Lebanon forced Nasrallah’s family to move to their ancestral home in the South Lebanese village of Bassouriyeh where Nasrallah joined the Amal movement, a political group that represents Shias in Lebanon.

At that time he was just 15-years-old and Amal was known by the name of “the movement of the deprived.”

Nasrallah then moved to Najaf in Iraq to study Qura’anic divine sciences at a Shia school.

In 1978, he completed the first stage of his studies successfully inside Hawza (Islamic Seminary), but his studies were interrupted when he was forced to leave by the Iraqi authorities. He then returned to Lebanon, where he studied at the school of Amal’s leader Sheikh Abbas al-Musawi.

A few years later, Amal elected Nasrallah as its political delegate in Bikaa, making him a member of the central political offices.

After the Israeli invasion in 1982, Nasrallah dedicated himself to the anti-Israeli resistance and joined Hezbollah which mainly aims at resisting the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon in the Bekaa Valley.

Despite his commitment to Hezbollah, Nasrallah was determined to resume his religious education to become a religious jurisprudent. In 1989, he moved to the sacred Iranian city of Qum to continue his studies.

Nasrallah is married to Fatima Yassin, who comes from the Labanese village of Al Abbasiyee. They have three children remained after their elder son, Hadi, was killed by Israeli occupation forces when he was 18-year-old.

The forty-four-old leader said once in an interview that he reads many books, particularly the memoirs of political figures, including the “Memoirs of Sharon” and Benjamin Netanyahu’s book “A Place under the Sun”, with the intention of getting to know his enemies.

He became the leader of Hezbollah after Israel assassinated the movement’s leader Sheikh Musawi in 1992.

Nasrallah is considered one of the most powerful and charismatic figures in the Middle East. He is a leader who endlessly fights for the rights of the Arabs and the Muslims.

Under his leadership, Hezbollah became a serious opponent of the Israeli occupation. The movements’ resistance was one of the main factors that led to the Israeli withdrawal from Southern Lebanon in 2000, ending 22-years of occupation.

Nasrallah also played a major role in the prisoner exchange deal between Israel and Hezbollah in 2004. The agreement was described among the Arab world as a great victory for Hezbollah and Nasrallah was praised as a hero for achieving gains in the Arab-Israeli conflict that no other Arab figure has attained.

For him, Hezbollah isn’t just a resistance group. He believes that it carries a message that depends on the Islamic belief.

Nasrallah also believes that Islam can solve all the problems for any society, but he makes clear that the movement doesn’t intend to force people into Islam.

He once said that “With respect to us, briefly, Islam is not a simple religion including only praises and prayers, rather it is a divine message that was designed for humanity, and it can answer any question man might ask concerning his general and private life. Islam is a religion designed for a society that can revolt and build a state.”

Love Israel .... mmmuuuuuuuuaaah :)

Wish I were a jew :P

Moslems think - when everybody takes sh!t from islam, why not israel ,,,,, saale mohammed ki gandi paidaish.

As members of the world humanity, we ask the United States to play its leadership role and the European Union to help putting a ceasefire in place. It is not the question of who is right or who is wrong. The urgency is to prevent general conflagration.

Why didnt chowk staff grace FP during North Korean missile crisis? What happened to their humanity then?

And why are a billion faithful begging for ceasefire instead of fighting the war they prayed for. They had their clash of civilization in New York, London, Madrid and Bombay. So whats wrong in having the War in Beirut suburbs for a change.

Lebanese are the most integrated Arab community in the USA, and by far the most successful. Those in Lebanon are the most Westernised Arabs (both Muslim and Christian). Thus, one is surprised that Israelis are attacking Lebanon and killing Lebanese civilians. This website gives a list of prominent Lebanese Americans; a community of 3 million. I was surprised to find certain names there, some of which are mentioned below.

http://www.freelebanon.org/articles/a235.htm

Paul Anka, Yasmin Bleeth, Keanu Reeves, Sammy Hagar, Salma Hayek, Danny Thomas, Tiffany, Frank Zappa, Casey Kassam

John Elway, Doug Flutie

Spencer Abraham, Donna Shalala, John Sununu, Helen Thomas

The most famous Lebanese American is Ralph Nader.

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zeemax: to continue the discussion on the above subject we were having on the other board

Actually Hamas has not just not recognized Israel but continued its hostilities, as evidenced by the firing of missiles from Gaza and the kidnapping of an Israeli border guard.

On the three conditions you say Hamas seeks before it will recognize Israel:

1) 1967 borders: On the West Bank, palestinians were (under Sharon`s unilateral withdrawal plan, which is probably no longer on the table anyway) going to get most of the west bank (I saw a map of the wall the israelis were building that would have become the de facto border on the west bank, and it leaves the bulk of the west bank in palestinian hands).

(2) East Jerusalem: True. Israelis have been adamant on not returning this.

(3) Right of Return: This is an unreasonable demand. If Israelis accept this, jews would become a minority in israel - why would anyone in his right mind hand over control of his country to a people who have no particular love for you to begin with? and after 50 years, the demand seems quite fake to me: most palestinians were not even born back then.

If Hamas was serious about wanting peace, or had leaders with half a brain, they would have taken the unilateral withdrawal plan (even if it was not exactly to their liking, per the three conditions above) and aimed for a Palestinian State. In the subcontinent, e.g., Jinnah (who did have a brain, as even those who hate him admit), accepted what he called a ``moth eaten Pakistan`` because he knew this was the best deal he was going to get. And no one really misses the districts that did not form part of Pakistan.

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