Quit India: Hindutva Goons!

This article is a boatload of BS. Mumbai is brimming with anger. Yes, people are going to their jobs because THEY HAVE TO. Only lazy commies will interpret this as love for islam. The Shiv Sena is in a weak spot because of Bal Thackeray`s blind love for his incompetent son - Uddhav. But even with this drawback the state of Mahrashtra is seething with anger and anti incumbency will push the BJP/SS to victory.

Re: # 74

Muslims drink Camel Urine and eat camel dung. It is proscribed in the Koran. Regarding cleanliness - the less said the better. Allah`s apotsle urged people to clean their backsides with sand. Arabia wasnt brimming with water and it is a fair guess that Allah`s apotsle didnt take bath daily.

Muslim mohallas are the most smelly. You lift the phiron of a muslim woman and it is instand death. You guys should be the last fellows talking about cleanliness.


Read this

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 261:

Eight men of the tribe of `Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, ``O Allah`s Apostle! Provide us with some milk.`` Allah`s Apostle said, ``I recommend that you sh ould join the herd of camels.`` So they went and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels, and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails, which were heated and passed over their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died.

#77 by khamkhwa

i am glad you can study the veda and the puranas in shuddh hindi... but wait...you being a lower caste are not allowed to read it and god forbid if you happen to be a shudra, you may be punished by pouring molten lead in your ears and mouth for the blasphemy.

Bhai Khamkhwa, look what the Paki school system has done to you. Out of hatred for Hindus, you were made to study the worst aspects of Hindusim, something even an orthodox Hindu (at least by birth) like myself never knew and learnt it only from my Paki friends. If only you guys had spent the same time reading/understanding the Quran, you`d be a much better Muslim than you are now.

In any case, no one has ever heard of molten lead being poured into a Shudra`s ears for studying the Vedas, but many of us know what happens in Pakistan when the Quran is defiled or a girl marries out of her choice.

Re: # 77

> you may be punished by pouring molten lead in your ears and mouth for the blasphemy...

We reserve that punishment for charlatans who marry their nieces and daughters and daughters-in-laws....

Shudras get to become presidents of our republic now :)

Or chief scientists and in some places - even priests.

[ They have to study the Koran in Arabic - how pathetic is that?]

krishna ...
i am glad you can study the veda and the puranas in shuddh hindi... but wait...you being a lower caste are not allowed to read it and god forbid if you happen to be a shudra, you may be punished by pouring molten lead in your ears and mouth for the blasphemy...i am sure it makes perfect sense in your convoluted logic...it`s not even pathetic...

Hasna maha moot,

Like to remind you that you have neither fallen from the heaven or imported from Arabia. you are just the progeny of ancesters born out of rape of Indian women by the marauding hordes who came to our land. So your own great great great great grandmother and her ancesters who were practising Hindus had cow urine in their system and you have it in your genes, too. Just accept the facts of life and those of your origin, you will be more humble in your attitude to the religion of your forefathers. Also your own father seems to have understood it well when baptising you, at least the mention of the word `maha moot`( wouldn`t just `moot` have sufficed?) in your name is a sure give away. You might also ponder whether it is better to be apart of a system where cow urine drinking is a custom or of a system in which you are forced to pay respects to a paedophile every time you pray to the Almighty

Re: # 74

mahmoot bhai mahmoot bhai, apke nabi ne apni bhatiji (6 saal ki) ke
saath ...... to hamare pichche kyun par gaye ho :D
Hamne thhore hi kaha tha ...

> ... puke on our mothers and sisters ....

mahmoot bhai mahmoot bhai, apke nabi ne apni bahu ki izzat lutee to
hamare pichche kyun par gaye ho :D
Hamne thhore hi kaha tha ...

mahmoot bhai mahmoot bhai, aap musalman log saare ussi nabi ke
paas ja rahe ho na ? to ``your`` paradise. May I suggest not to take your mothers & sisters
...
yeh nabi thoda sa character ka dheela hai.

Enjoy your paradise :)

To all the Hindus and the smellies in this world. By the way lets all drink cow piss and puke on our mothers and sisters just like the beautiful Hindus....That way we will be as successful as these Indians. We will all say ``Thousand Apologies`` and be considered the best. LOL. Love those heeng people...At least they have the guts to stand up and say something now without proof though but hey love the heengus anyway....


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Re: # 72

Actually, I am more interested in Khammis` comment that we are not man enough because we
have not decimated Islam in India. Whereas they have done that to their minorities ...
And I guess he does have a point.
What is the point of just writing all this we-will-destroy-pakistan ? Pukistan is just the symptom.
The problem is the message - Islam.
The more I think about it, the more I agree with Khammi(na) bhai.

#54 by wiseguyin

[Krishna, seems like Khammi-na has thrown you a challenge :)
(never mind that the pukis cant win kashmir from hinuds , even)

so i guess u definitely need to do something ... remember we all can contribute to their
decimation in our own small ways ....]

Khamkhwa and people like him should be pitied. They are converted Hindus - their ancestors have been raped and brutally converted by force. The ones that converted themselves gave in under preswsure. And they have been forced to identify with the dirty barbarians. To the point that a few generations down they have started imitating and idolizing these illiterate bedouine clones. They deny any ancestry with Hindus - everyone claims to be from somewhere else - although the Westerners cannot tell who`s a Paki and who`s an Indian. :) They`ve been adding Arabic and Persian words to Sankrit and calling it Urdu, keeping beards like the pedophile, and following that demented cult. They have to study the Koran in Arabic - how pathetic is that? Have you seen Chinese Islamists with beards and that Checkered bedouine headdress? Now how ridiculous is that? :)

Re: # 70

> We are good at eradicating Islamic vermin

why do u repeat urself sometimes ? You can say Islamic or say vermin. Either would do.

#67 by hasanmahmood

[Actually you are wrong in saying that Muslims had a very small part. Why do you think England was able to control all of India - because the hindus living there were helping them. they were working as gora`s soldiers and their eyes and ears. They were the spies England needed. But I bet you dont read that in your history books.]

You`re right. I don`t. By the way, where did YOU read this? At your local madrassa? :)


[If you look at you history and culture you got everythig from Muslims including the Taj Mahal]

Actually we never wanted the Taj Mahal. You guys can take it and keep it.

The only things we got from Muslims are looting, plundering, mass killings, destructions, forced conversions, qawaali and jehadis.


[You do nothing but but attack Muslim`s personally by attacking their religion. Are you sure you are in a position to do that]

Yes. Watch me do it. :)


[Your religion first of all is not even authentic enough for you to make fun of any other religion]

It`s true that Hinduism was not a cult started by a pedophile. But why does that make it un-authentic?


[Just calling names does not prove your point]

But it feels good. :)


[You people bow in front of everything you dont understand (cow is a great example but you can also take monkey, snakes etc - but you dont drink their piss so I am not including those animals)]

That`s not true. I understand cows. Also monkeys and snakes. But not pedophiles. Or serial rapists. Or serial murderers.

[You have no concept of cleanliness. You smell of Heeng in a freakin perfume section in the mall and for some reason I have not seen one of your religious figures ever telling you to take a shower.]

Actually Hinduism doesn`t come with a manual that tells us, like for example Mo told you guys, how to use sand after defecation. But then Hinduism is not as spiritual as Islam.


[You guys have stories in your religion taken from other religions and you guys actually feel proud of having 500 different gods. You guys take everything and start poojing it. Isn`t that a little rediculous.]

Whether it is ridiculous or not, why is your a$$ on fire, we are not trying to convert anybody. Relax and go molest a 9-year old.


[You guys talk bad about Pakistan and Islam yet women in your country are dying to marry someone from Pakistan (of course you will disagree after watching all the Bollywood films).]

Like who? Stop wetting your pants. :)


[You call others barbaric but totally believe in the caste system, sati, and everything rediculous world can think of]

If we believe in all that doesn`t make you guys any less barbaric.


[Just because noone talks about these thing does not mean they dont exist.]

You are talking about it. So it cannot be no one.


[Please come out of your bollywood mentality and see India and Hindus for what they are. You really think that if goras go to India they will see what is shown in Bollywodd. No they will see filth and malnutrition, and prostitutes and of course rampant AIDS thorughout the country. Grow up dude and open your eyes to the stark reality. India can never compete with other countries because of the corrupt system in place which has never changed and it never will.]

Then how come India`s per capita income is higher than yours? And we kick your butt every time in every war? :)


[Now go pick up your dagger and kill someone because they built a bathroom where your kaali mai was giving someone shakti. Isnt that what Hindus are good at????]

Yes. We are good at eradicating Islamic vermin like yourself. We like to squash them with our boots like bugs. Squish! Squash! :)

Re: # 68

Hey man, take it easy on this hasanmahmoot. I think the randi-baazi knowledge of
his nabi (wats it called ? Muta marriage :D ) has helped him mellow down. 2 more
years on chowk & we will make a human out of him :P

Re: # 67

you are welcome to all of this.

What do expalin are the reasons for the hinuds to be doing better than pakistanis - in SA and in the world at large. I have just been looking at the Farnborough Air Show website. I can see plenty of hinud stuff there but very little from the arabs and the wannabe arabs and the pakistanis.

well, best of luck in your endeavours...you really need it.

Re: # 43
Actually you are wrong in saying that Muslims had a very small part. Why do you think England was able to control all of India - because the hindus living there were helping them. they were working as gora`s soldiers and their eyes and ears. They were the spies England needed. But I bet you dont read that in your history books. If you look at you history and culture you got everythig from Muslims including the Taj Mahal. You do nothing but but attack Muslim`s personally by attacking their religion. Are you sure you are in a position to do that. Your religion first of all is not even authentic enough for you to make fun of any other religion. Just calling names does not prove your point. You people bow in front of everything you dont understand (cow is a great example but you can also take monkey, snakes etc - but you dont drink their piss so I am not including those animals). You have no concept of cleanliness. You smell of Heeng in a freakin perfume section in the mall and for some reason I have not seen one of your religious figures ever telling you to take a shower. You guys have stories in your religion taken from other religions and you guys actually feel proud of having 500 different gods. You guys take everything and start poojing it. Isn`t that a little rediculous. You guys talk bad about Pakistan and Islam yet women in your country are dying to marry someone from Pakistan (of course you will disagree after watching all the Bollywood films). You call others barbaric but totally believe in the caste system, sati, and everything rediculous world can think of. Just because noone talks about these thing does not mean they dont exist. Please come out of your bollywood mentality and see India and Hindus for what they are. You really think that if goras go to India they will see what is shown in Bollywodd. No they will see filth and malnutrition, and prostitutes and of course rampant AIDS thorughout the country. Grow up dude and open your eyes to the stark reality. India can never compete with other countries because of the corrupt system in place which has never changed and it never will. Now go pick up your dagger and kill someone because they built a bathroom where your kaali mai was giving someone shakti. Isnt that what Hindus are good at????

Re: # 53

ARSTOO - these are some nice short stories that you are posting... why not compile them together ...

:)

Re #33
No doubt the commies must be exterminated for the vermin they are, but many who have benefitted immensely from the quota system are no less fifth columnists for they`re not only ungrateful to the system that has lifted them from misery but create bogeys about Hindutva and contribute to caste based divisions in the society thereby weakening the country`s social fabric. The least they can do is close ranks with the rest of the country to fight the jehadi menace. My bet is the next piece from this MC will be on how upper caste Hindus are maltreating the less privileged . We all better watch out.

Our secularist warriors, these

Democracy has its downside, specially in underdeveloped countries like India. Rampant poverty, widespread illiteracy and, consequently, ignorance make for an imperfect democracy. Only informed people can make informed choices. Populism of the bank nationalisation variety did succeed in its immediate purpose of getting Mrs Indira Gandhi a huge number of votes. But, as by now everyone knows, it, and other so-called socialistic measures came in its wake, ended up inflicting huge costs on the economy.

The economic wheel was moved back several turns by these cynical steps to hoodwink the people. Another example is the current competition between various players to woo the numerically important OBCs by reserving jobs and seats in educational institutions. The objective is votes; any good that might flow to OBCs is incidental.

Affirmative action to benefit these castes would of course not net the same electoral benefit as the crude device of reservations would. Besides, the more the so-called elite groups protest the OBC reservations, the more the targeted castes are expected to root for the pro-reservation politicians.

But very often cynical shortcuts politicians take for votes harm broader national interest. The case in point is the extraordinary care and concern being shown to the main accused, Abdul Nasser Madani, in the 1998 Coimbatore bombings. The ring leader of that dastardly operation which left 58 dead and several more injured is now jailed in Coimbatore. But so solicitous have been the self-avowed secularists about the well-being of this leader of the anti-nationalists that they have bent all rules in the jail manual and relevant judicial precedents in order to make his stay in prison most comfortable.

The man who masterminded a murderous assault on the then Home Minister of India L. K. Advani, which mercifully failed, is being serenaded by the Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu and Kerala, M. Karunanidhi and V. S. Achuthanandan respectively. These self-appointed guardians of secularism have joined hands to ensure that Madani and his band of terrorists go scot free. With the prosecution under their control, there can be little hope the trial in the Coimbatore bomb attacks case ending in a stiff punishment for the heinous criminals.

It is the twisted vote-bank politics that both the Marxists and the DMK are willing to go out on a limb to comfort Madani. It is notable that months before the last election to the Kerala Assembly, the then ruling United Democratic Front Government of Chief Minister Oommen Chandy had moved a resolution in the House seeking the release from prison of Madani. Now, it should be underlined here, Madani was not being held on any political charges. He was the main accused in a criminal case which had caused the death of 58 innocent people and left several more injured severely.

The adoption of such a resolution itself was an affront to good governance, nay, good sense. But because Madani as the head of the rabidly Islamic fundamental group, People’s Democratic Party, could deliver the votes of the sizable Muslim community, even the then opposition CPI (M)-led Left Democratic Front had voted for the resolution seeking his release. Given that various courts had rejected his bail application, the Kerala Assembly resolution was in fact a crude attempt to influence the judicial process.

But the latest to keep Madani in good humour does take the cake. According to reports, on the specific directions of the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister, the State authorities have built an Ayurvedic spa inside the Coimbatore prison for the rejuvenation of the ring leader of the killer group. Apparently, poor Madani had lost weight and a very concerned Karunanidhi marshaled a battery of best Ayurvedic masseurs and allopathic doctors to restore youth and vigour to the frail leader of the fundamentalist Islamic group.

And, what is more, he allowed Madani’s wife to visit him in high security prison at all times of day and night. This when an arrest warrant was pending against her, too. Only after a national daily exposed the palpably illegal exertions of the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister on behalf of Madani did Madani’s wife secure bail from a court. Naturally, the prosecution did not press for her police or judicial custody.

Back to the negative costs of democracy. In any other informed democracy, it is unlikely that politicians would be so brazen as to go out on a limb for the sake of a terror accused. Nor would they dare mock prison and judicial custody rules to mollycoddle a high security prisoner.

And one last question: Do you still think that DMK boss Karunanidhi and CPI (M) leader Achuthanandan are epitomes of secularism? Or pandering to Islamic fundamentalism is the only way one can burnish one’s secularist credentials?

Ref Urstruly #12

[.... I expect that the mass expulsion of Indian Muslims will take place within next 15 to 20 years. When that time comes I think the two civilization will have a geographical border somewhere East of Delhi in the North and upto Hyderabad Daccan in south central India.]

And -- this is the crucial part that you missed -- pigs will fly.

Ref hasanmahmood #6

[..... if Muslims leave can Hindus really run their country on their own.]

All you need to do is to look at Pakistan and then decide whether Hindus can run their country on their own.

You can also look at Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Lebanon, Iraq, Londonistan, etc., to see how well Muslims are managing their own affairs.

[Even you atomic program was designed by a Muslim.]

You are less educated than even the Masanamuthus and the pseudo-secularists of India.

The 1974 atomic weapon test was led by Raja Ramanna, a South Indian brahmin.

The 1998 weapons were designed under the leadership od V. S. Arunachalam, a TamBrahm.

APJ Abdul Kalam led our missile development program, not our nuclear program.

[What will Hindus do then, dance to their kali mai and hop that Muslims rule over them again - lol]

Nope. They will drop a bomb on Islamabad.

Ref khamkhwa #4

[...one question... are communists not indian...?]

No.

They are fifth-columnists rooting for China and doing everything in their power to stop India`s progress.

Example: they are against the modernisation of the airports in Bombay and New Delhi.

Ref teshah #58

[I, on my part, would advise the Indian brothers to shed away this farce of secularism which is irrelevant in the context of the Indian sub-continent and face the ground realities in their proper context.]

Why don`t you advise the Indian Muslims -- who jealously guard their right to divorce their wives by saying ``talaq`` three times and do not pay alimony -- to also demand that Muslim thieves have their hands chopped off and train bombers are beheaded in public?

And if Kashmiri Muslim women are raped by the Indian Army, tell them to consider it as ``war booty``.

Re: # 58,

Indian secularism is always about not acknowledging the negative upheaval that Islamic terrorism created in South Asia. It is at best about downplaying them and trumpeting the positive ones while chastising Hindus for pretty much every evil in the subcontinent. I wont be surprised if the ``secular thinktanks`` running the country are as dishonest or self-aggra than the good for nothing writer of this piece.

How is it that Indian secularism is working for all the other minorities... Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists, Parsis, Bahais? Secularism is good, denial is not.

What is this Indian secularism which allows the country to be divided on communal basis? Why not request the British to revoke the so called `Independence Act` to find a new solution for a political settlement of the communal problem of the Indian sub-continent under the aegis of UNO. Just see how absurd the situation is as whereas Kashmiri Muslims who have yet to exercise their right of self determination are raising hell for acceding to Pakistan, the majority of Indian Muslims who had opted for Pakistan have either opted out of it or living in India.

I, on my part, would advise the Indian brothers to shed away this farce of secularism which is irrelevant in the context of the Indian sub-continent and face the ground realities in their proper context.

``It is clear for everyone that it is a provocative act and it should not be taken lightly. The city administration should be pressurised to take action against the miscreants which has adopted a dilly-dallying tactic over this act``

Big words from a lowly being. Should not the city, state, and nation be forced into adopting tactics to PREVENT further terrorist attacks? You seabiscuit !

...burnol...;))

#51 by khamkhwa on July 25, 2006 2:47pm PT

Pakis, allah`s chosen people, the brave warriors of Islam, have been unable to do squat about taking back Indian Kashmir...What does that say about you?

Re: # 51

Krishna, seems like Khammi-na has thrown you a challenge :)
(never mind that the pukis cant win kashmir from hinuds , even)

so i guess u definitely need to do something ... remember we all can contribute to their
decimation in our own small ways ....

Ref#[#47 by jang on July 25, 2006 10:59am PT]

Dear Jang

I rename you Shanti.

Once Prophet ( SAW-PBHU-POM-KS-ETC) had a bath after six months. Two of his wives were taking his head lices out and killing them with gusto.

In came Mohammad`s (SAW-PBHU-POM-KS-ETC) follower Abdul-bin-Faluda with his recentcly captured sex slave Dukhtar Al-Kulfi.

Abdul asked `O messanger of god peace be upon you. Please help me. This newly convert Muslim Gond Al-Qatira is trying to have sex with Al-Kulfi. What is the punishement for Al-qatira.``

Prophet (SAW-PBHU-POM-KS-ETC) after pondering the question for some time scrached the pride of his loins and said ``O Faluda, Even now I remember the fight you had with Al-Gola, the husband of Al-Kulfi. You slain hime with bravery and acquired Al-Kulfi with your right hand.``

``But Al-Kulfi is not muslim therefore Al-Qatira has not committed anu crime. What I suggest is Faluda, A-Qatira you can both enjoy Al-Kulfi.``

Abdul said ``O Messanger of God, you are realy very compassionated and understanding of the human issue. Peace be upon you.``

After that incident Faluda, Al-Qitira and Al-Kufi had it three some.

This clearly shows the Prophet(SAW-PBHU-POM-KS-ETC) came to earth to solve the problems of human kind and spread peace.

Re: # 50 wise
[... Indians & Chinese are ``competing`` with the west....]

Yes. But Islamic people donot understand the word ``compete``... they understand the world only stark terms - victory/defeat, beat/get beaten... I was just trying to explain to Mr Hassan in words that he understands... :)

krishna #44
[I think I`ll leave that to Israel. ;) ]

...just goes to prove the point made by tushar barot...you are definitely one...;)

Re: # 49

> we have always regretted the fact that we couldn`t defend your great-great-great-grand
> mother from the smelly islamic barbarians... :)

mohar, even though I get the vein in which that reply was made, I really think the smiley
was not required... we are talking about real human females & they were still hindus at the
time of assault.

> The idea is very simple: to beat the West in their own game...:)
This is the second part in which I mildly disagree. Indians & Chinese are ``competing`` with
the west. But we don`t hate the west or think that the values that they stand for are much
different from ours ...

Other then that, it would be fun to watch the katwas` face when u made that retort !

Re: # 39 hasan
[.... The only difference is Hindus will not even be able to blow themseleves up....]

There is no need to... The idea is very simple: to beat the West in their own game...:).. it ain`t that difficult really ....and hinuds[and chinese] think they can do it - they can beat the west by the end of this century...

Only the bedouin neanderthals commit suicide in the face of the adversity.... the evolved people study the ``enemy`` and find ways to neutralize his strength.... evolved people love life and live to fight another day, they don`t commit suicide....

That`s the way out for you bedouins and wannabe-bedouins... you have lost 1400 years of evolution process to the Book - but it`s not too late yet... you can still beat the West if you put your brains to use - the way it was supposed to be used, not by splattering it all over the sidewalk with dynamite up your a###...:)

++++

[...I also think you are forgetting that your forefathers were also ruled by Muslims....]

Not at all... you pakis are the constant reminders of how we lost a part of our old clan to beduonism... we have always regretted the fact that we couldn`t defend your great-great-great-grand mother from the smelly islamic barbarians... :)

Re: # 39

> India only got the independance because of Muslims and not becase of the South-African
> wanna be fggot you can as Ghandi. He was too busy keeping randis around him.

Bhai sahib,
we at least dont treat Ghandi as a prophet .... ur mohammed surrounded himself with
randis & u bow to him. 5 times a day.
Come to think of it ... it does make sense .... maybe gandhi was trying to emulate the
paed0phile .... Damn ... this is a new view point :) and in some ways it does make sense !

overall an ok article, albeit with bias. while the real root-cause for a communal riot is likely to be a bomb, the only reason of society (incl police) can avoid further violence. the conclusion drawn by ghatade is however incorrect. i would argue that the ``secular`` lifafa whiners are well-advised not to take on a confrontatinal attitude but focus on grassroot support effort in rehabilitation of the survivor families. their cause is important at this point. vhp banners are not going to do much if samna (shivsena mouthpiece) editorial hardly did anything..they are allowed their free-speech.

Re: # 34

Ranjit,

Well said..

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#41 by khamkhwa

[krishna...
now go and kill a few muslims...]

I think I`ll leave that to Israel. ;)

#39 by hasanmahmood

[Actually that is because the whole third world including the pathetic India does not stand up to the West. Today they are after Muslims, tomorrow they will be after Hindus. The only difference is Hindus will not even be able to blow themseleves up. I also think you are forgetting that your forefathers were also ruled by Muslims. India only got the independance because of Muslims and not becase of the South-African wanna be fggot you can as Ghandi. He was too busy keeping randis around him. But I guess you dont learn that is Hindu Mata History. ]

Muslims had a VERY small part to play in getting independence for India. The overwhelming majority of people who were at the forefront of the freedom struggle were Hindus. Also, throughout history, NO MUSLIM RULER EVER CONQUERED ALL OF INDIA. There were always Hindu kingdoms that they could not defeat.

You must understand that you inherited your defeatist outlook from your forefathers - who were those Hindus who were defeated by the pedophile worshippers and brutally raped. No wonder you can do nothing but commit suicide by blowing yourself up. In case you haven`t noticed, pedophile-worshippers lose always - look around the world - you guys lose to everybody - Israel, India, America, Spain. Your heroes are always hiding in holes - like Osama and Mullah Omar and Nasrallah. What`s up with that? :)

Re: # 36

oooh actually the whole world now has ssen the evidence that the train riots in Bihar were because of radical Hindus. So I guess all Hindus are that fanatical or does your theory only holds true when the people who bomb trains are Muslims. I dont even know why you even come to this website to spew all this rhtoric about how great India is and how good Hindus are. Have you forgotten that we are not goras and we actually know the true India where kids dont have enough money to wear any clothes or take a shower so they go dip themseleves with the sacred cow. Or that actors and actressess are asked to come in ads of cow urine and how it does a bod good hmmmm. Dude just chill. Noone is going to become a Hindu just because you dont like Muslims. For every Hindu there is in this world there are probably 40 muslims. Just think what will happen to you once the West starts realizing that Hindus cannot be trusted. Lol for Pete sake go home and do some good for your people instead of talking through you ass. LOL

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#35 by khamkhwa

[ranjit`s is the only sane voice with constructive suggestions on how to combat the situation wheras, the rest of soldiers like krishna, bhairav, antihypochrist, wiseguyin etc etc fall in the category described in the following article, published recently in Chowk...
A Nation of Eunuchs by Tushar Barot...too much hot air with clapping in the background...damn hijRas...]

On the hijra issue, all I have to say is that you are no different in this regard - you are typing on a keyboard just like me.

I, however, also do what I can. I NEVER buy ANYTHING that has any camel-jockey script on it. I talk to anyone who would listen, and explain to them about the dangers of Islam - how the good and the decent Muslims are just as much a threat to civilization as the radical ones - because they are the soil that the Islamists get their nourishment from - decent parents can raise a mass bomber without knowing it - and the reason is at the root - EVERYBODY STUDIES THE SAME DEMENTED MANUAL DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

Look at perfectly decent people like VRV and Ballukhan - they are quite comfortable equating Hindutva-vadis with Islamic terrorists - when I ask these people to list the atrocities done by these two groups side-by-side and then compare the two, they conveniently disappear.

You cannot be studying and glorifying Mein Kampf all your life without it having SOME effect on your life. Your brain may rationalize out the bloodthirsty exhortations, but others` brains might not.

On the other hand, people like Taslima Nasreen etc. will always have ALL my support. When I see someone like that, I feel that maybe there is hope.

Re: # 7
Actually that is because the whole third world including the pathetic India does not stand up to the West. Today they are after Muslims, tomorrow they will be after Hindus. The only difference is Hindus will not even be able to blow themseleves up. I also think you are forgetting that your forefathers were also ruled by Muslims. India only got the independance because of Muslims and not becase of the South-African wanna be fggot you can as Ghandi. He was too busy keeping randis around him. But I guess you dont learn that is Hindu Mata History.

Re: # 34

> On the contrary, I am advocating faster and stronger integration with the mainstream via
> education/employment etc

what the f@#k do they want more ?

where is there any discrimination against them ?

Yeh ek mansikta hai, jiska kuchch nahin kia ja sakta. Its a mentality .... the heart really cries
when these vermin say they are being discriminated against - & they say it in India, in France, in Britain, in US .... everywhere. Do you know what happens to Hindus in Bagladesh ?
Do you know what they face everyday ?

Do you think ``more economic integration`` is going to to rid them of us-versus-them attitude ?
And what do u suggest as part of ``more integration`` ? pay every muslim a fixed sum out of govt coffers ? at whose cost ? at the cost of the hindu poor ? at the cost of the christian poor ? tell me about the sikhs ... they have faced govt sponsored pogroms even ... why are they
not begging on the streets ?

VERMIN REMAIN VERMIN. ITS A MENTALITY.

Do you know the amount of power they wield in states like Waste bengal, assam, UP ?

Ok assuming our country starts paying for their upkeep - irrespective of whether they are
responsible citizens. Irrepsective of the # of vermin they breed ... then what ?
They are going to remain calm (as if they are doing us a favour), then suppose we face a crisis & stop doling out money .... should we be expecting riots & blasts again ?

Dude, its the message of the paed0phile himself. There is no way to get these people to
act & think rationally. That would require them to be human first.

Re: # 35

> A Nation of Eunuchs by Tushar Barot...too much hot air with clapping in the background...
> damn hijRas...

Abe katwe, apne desh ki fikar kar ....
I have seen poor from almost all religions, but the paed0phile followers are the only ones who
have this attitude of we-will-blow-you-up-if-you-dont-do-something-for-our-poverty. The others
have a certain amount of decency in life. And of course the zeal to lift themselves up.

To our eternal shame, we have given vermin like muslims, equal opportunities & some more
then the rest of the citizens. We never could get you to be one of us. But then the consolation
is that we are in august company... In the same boat as the Europeans, thailand + other secular countries ...

#32 by ballukhan on July 25, 2006 4:38am PT


rather than singularly emphasising upon radicalisation of a few of the Indian Muslims ?


while the motives of the chaddis on this thread are obvious to non-hindus and most hindus, comparing the spread of fundamentalist islam to maoism is completely ridiculous..The maoists thrive on local inequities and their targets are local..Radical Islamists from bihar, pakiland and elsewhere are targeting trains in bombay as part of a global jihad..

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[...What about radicalisation of Hindus? What about the Maoist challenge to the Indian state since it already has occupied half the districts of this country? Aren`t you concerned about the serious challenges which we actually face on these fronts rather than singularly emphasising upon radicalisation of a few of the Indian Muslims ?....]

Ballu, hindu radicalization has already been curbed to an incredible degree. If you havent noticed, hindus themselves kicked out the BJP from power. Recent events such as the arrest of Shankaracharya or the Mumbai blasts hardly evoked a peep out of any hindu radical organizations. Hindu radicalism was a passing phenomenon of the 90s and evokes a yawn in 2006. Maoist challenge may be an issue but it is an internal challenge and is manageable.

My point is that the radicalization of IMs is an emerging issue. Thankfully it is very small right now but it has the potential to really spin out of control. There is a global conflict going on in the name of ``War on Terror`` which is increasingly degenerating into a war between muslims and non-muslims. In the subcontinent, Pakistan is already a gone case and is chomping at the bits to pull IMs towards its goals. Bangladeshis have gone nuts as well, given the frenzied jamati activities. How long can IMs resist participating in this phenomenon?

In this regional and global context, India needs to closely watch what happens with IMs. That does not mean victimizing them by any means. On the contrary, I am advocating faster and stronger integration with the mainstream via education/employment etc while at the same time being vigilant about the security angle and the most important aspect - external bad influence. Obviously this requires strong cooperation from IM leaders as well.

Re: # 20

````This MC is a BC who has received some education at the cost of a deserving candidate (thanks to reservations) and is now expressing his gratitude by criticising Hindutva .````

Dont bring Caste into the issue and try to distract the argument. The criticism of this article is about it`s distinct anti Hindu bias, which is common among Communists. And they come from all castes, regions and languages..

We have been decieved long enough by these vermins: through the mass media, through our distorted educational curriculum and through cheap politics. The day will come, hopefully soon enough, when these ba$tards will be made accountable for their actions,

``....... India faces a very serious challenge in the near future, which is the increasing radicalization of Indian muslims. ..........``

What about radicalisation of Hindus? What about the Maoist challenge to the Indian state since it already has occupied half the districts of this country? Aren`t you concerned about the serious challenges which we actually face on these fronts rather than singularly emphasising upon radicalisation of a few of the Indian Muslims ?

Irrespective of this ridiculous article, India faces a very serious challenge in the near future, which is the increasing radicalization of Indian muslims. IMs have so far avoided the jihadi fever that is raging in the islamic world. In fact, India has been held up as an example of a country where muslims are well integrated and not inclined to the craziness displayed by the rest of the ummah.

However, how long will this last? There are determined external forces like the Pak establishment and their proxies like LeT who are hell bent on recruiting IMs to their cause of India`s destruction. They are actively recruiting IMs working in the middle-east and linking up with organizations like SIMI to create a cadre among IMs. Given the vast population of 150 Million IMs, even if they get 0.1% recruitment, it is a huge problem for India. And India is a terrorist`s dream come true. Highly overpopulated, poor infrastructure, corrupt law enforcement, shoddy intelligence. We may soon end up with Mumbai blasts happening every other day in every metropolis.

There is no easy answer to this. If IMs are boycotted economically as some have suggested or if there are pogroms, it will add to more recruitment to the jihadi cause. If there is no reaction, it will be perceived as typical hindu weakness and capitulation, thus encouraging more violence. Perhaps the only options are to accelerate economic integration of muslims so that they have a stake in the country, increased intelligence gathering, more community involvement with law enforcement, sealing of all borders including nepal/bangladesh etc. The Mumbai blasts are an indicator of what is going to happen if we dont take proactive steps to nip this in the bud. If IMs follow their ummah brothers, we are all doomed.

I see how Subhash Gatade`s completely sane piece has aroused much sabre rattling against a fellow compatriot, even a blatant threat of violence at #21, while all he wrote was exactly what P.M. Manmohan Singh has himself said in his speech. Would someone post Manmohan Singh`s address as well?

Pathetic.

Subhash babu,

I think you wrote an incomplete piece. I mean you are less harsh on the elements that planted these bombs.

India is struggling to look poised. We have the jihadi fundamentalits on one side (with some local dreamers of Islamic India abetting the plans) and on the otherside we have the East African Gujarati, Pravin Togadiya and his ilk who dream of a pure Hindu Rastra (a garden of one flower).

There was a debate in some Pak newspapers that if Pakistan was the homeland for Indian Muslims, then whoever feels for it shall find citizenship there, just like a Jew aho can claim citizenship in Israel. I think that should be way for Indian Muslims i.e. go to Pakistan without any restrictions or stay in India with euqal rights and euqal responsibilities as Indians.

Every country face this problem of oursonofabitch. Thankfully they are in a minority till now. Something similar happened in South Africa. When somebody called for expulsion of Indians (Hindus, Muslims and Christians), Nelson Mandela gave a strong reply to them saying that it was those who call Indians (in South Africa) as foreigners are the real foreigners!

``To conclude, secular activists who have been rejoicing over the new mood of the people, exhibited in the aftermath of the bomb blasts, should not slacken their vigil in any manner.``

-- Can you write when your time permits on the fiery speeches that mullahs make through almost all the mosques? Can you write something on the menace of pan-islamism that has always existed in the India subcontinent and is now threating India again? Do you and your ilk have the balls to write about these things? Or even admit to yourselves?

``It is clear for everyone that it is a provocative act and it should not be taken lightly``

-- What is provocative about that? Especially, when almost all terrorists are muslims. Is it not true that in a larger set of muslims a subset of them have been terrorizing Indians? Why don`t you talk about that? Or is the bombing by Muslim terrorists not provocative enough, you slimy creature?

``The Vishwa Hindu Parishad which has put these banners all over the city has also decided to `urge our people to stop buying anything from Muslims.` ``

-- OK, how true is that?

And, BTW, how do you feed your family? By spouting out one-sided trash like this one Chowk?

So Mia Subhash,

What are you trying to say? Are you saying that this absence of any riots now is the true spirit of Mumbai?

Then, what the heck was the spirit when riots actually took place?

So Mia Subhash,

What are you trying to say? Are you saying that this absence of any riots now is the true spirit of Mumbai?

Then, what the heck was the spirit when riots actually took place?

``Choro Hindustan`` ``And go to America``

````Chhodo Hindustan,`` a series of banners urging Muslims who are ``supporters of terrorism`` to leave the country..............``

All terrorists whether from the hindu or the muslim community must leave the country.......to that extent I certainly welcome the proposal.................

Re: # 18

His address is:

Subhash Gatade,
H 4,
PUSA APARTMENTS,
ROHINI 15,

DELHI 110085


You see violence does pay. The best way to make sure that the commies dont rear their ugly
head is to make sure that they know the consequences of doing it ...

This MC is a BC who has received some education at the cost of a deserving candidate (thanks to reservations) and is now expressing his gratitude by criticising Hindutva . If one dipped one`s ass in ink and sat on a paper the result would be better than what this moron writes.

Hindutva Goons--Quit India

Lashkar-e-Tayyba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Al-Qaeda--Welcome to India