Winning by Losing in the Middle East

``On the Day when every soul will be confronted with all the good it has done, and all the evil it has done, it will wish there were a great distance between it and its evil. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself. And Allah is full of kindness to those that serve Him.``

surah 3:30 The Family of Imran
(Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur`an, Amana Corporation, 1989.)

That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths. But their hands will speak to us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did.

surah 36:65 Ya-sin
(Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur`an, Amana Corporation, 1989.)


``On the Day when their tongues, their hands, and their feet will bear witness against them as to their actions.``

surah 24:24
(Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur`an, Amana Corporation, 1989.)

shoresahib: seems like we came to chowk at the same time. Seems like you are having a slow day at work today. but your civilized, intelligent posts are always good to read.

zeemax: thanks for your comments. strong words (``cockroach``, ``munafiqeen``) are useful only if you wish to use words as weapons - in which case they are nothing more than empty words - and not as a means of communication.

For His Holiness Ayotollah Zeemax,

Hazoor-e-Walah,

Arzi pesh kartey hein hum aap ki khidmat mein. GHAUR SEY SUNO!!!!!

This comment is so deplorable and disgusting...that I have decided to not address you in the future. Please join your friend Masadi amongst the elect who will at the right hand of ALLAH in the hereafter, and let us sinners be damned to the deepest pits of Fiery Hell with Walls of Flames closing in on us, Very Surah Al Qari`ah!

So befitting an end to us so called haters of Islam....Such a just punishment from the god of Islam judging on his behalf ``al Rijl As Saleh`` like yourself.

Now leave me and the other sinners to our fate of Al Qari`ah and go do Allah`s work for him before Al- Yaum al Qiyamah. I hope the Al Kursi is comfortable, after all you are interning for Allah beyong the Sidra tul Muntaha.......

Re: # 306

This comment is so deplorable and disgusting...that I have decided to not address you in the future. Please join your friend Masadi amongst the elect who will at the right hand of ALLAH in the hereafter, and let us sinners be damned to the deepest pits of Fiery Hell with Walls of Flames closing in on us, Very Surah Al Qari`ah!

So befitting an end to us so called haters of Islam....Such a just punishment from the god of Islam judging on his behalf ``al Rijl As Saleh`` like yourself.

Now leave me and the other sinners to our fate of Al Qari`ah and go do Allah`s work for him before Al- Yaum al Qiyamah. I hope the Al Kursi is comfortable, after all you are interning for Allah beyong the Sidra tul Muntaha.......

Re: # 298

Unlike some of you, I have a life, and work!

I was taking care of a young mentally retarded Jewish boy with Cerebral Palsy today.

Have faith,

The answer to your question arrives very soon!

Re: # 273 by masadi on August 7, 2006 8:54pm PT

Dear Masadi:

You know that I love you, because you are a religious person, and are unable to use your intellect. A believer like yourself can not use the rational side to explain society.

{Once again, the bigot does not deal with a single issue or argument but responds with ad hominem and imagining things about me.}

Actually, you are a religious fanatic and by definition a bigot. So, there you have it.

What gibberrish, how can that be? Your rational mind can never define God, it is totally illogical.

{.... even though I rejected the theology of both and rationally discovered Islam for myself via the Quran based upon intellectual and logical criteria. }

{If you have to take on the intellectual/religious debate take it to the intellectuals of the West many of whom, especially the ones that laid the foundation of the rennaissance were believers in the illogical/unjust mumbo jumbo theology of Christianity~ unlike my
acceptance of the God concept based on strictly logical and scientific grounds. }

Wah, ray wah... heads you win and tails I lose....and this is your double speak. No religious person can be rational. For a rational person religion has to be secondary. But, you are brain dead, anyway.

{You on the other hand are a worst bigot than any ``fundamentalist`` you talk about. }

If I am a bigot, then at least I am authentic, whereas you are not. At a drop of hat, being a fanatic muslim, you will kill me, because of my rational mind. And then you will justify it through your religious teachings, and hence create the mumbo jumbo that you are so good amongst the kids.


{A few months back you and I had a discussion on Israel and you were adamant in support of it and its belligerance which you are now condemning based solely on partisanship and not any logical/just/moral criteria. }


I am still a supporter of Israel and its values in the middle east. Whereas, you being a fanatic muslim, you twist and turn and grunt like a pig. Do you know how much odor pig creates in its surrounding? FYI....It takes over 500 CFM of fresh air just to get rid of one pig`s odor.


{Finally, I do not claim to be an ``intellectual``, just a straight thinking ordinary human being who can use evidence to arrive at conclusions.}

We all knew that you have no worth to your intellect, because you have none. And I being suggesting this all along. Just quit your rational side, and expose your fundamental religious values and be proud of what you are.... a beleiver.

{ So, gather up your bs and take a hike. } You have already surrendered, and that has always been my Persian superiority. No wonder you can never a clarity of thoughts with being a child of Shia/Sunni heritage. No wonder you take refuge in compalining about the US Power Elite.

{Respectfully submitted,}

Thank you.

Respectfully submitted,

....#306....

And that goes for the Islam haters in the Munafiqeen camp as well .....

#304 by tahmed32

Actually this cokroach is right. What is written is correct. It means Muslims will screw them with condoms because they`re infested with all kinds of venereal diseases.

#301 by tahmed32

LoL tahmed. That was a good one ... even if I may say so ....

#299 so what else do you expect from these clowns? what i find insulting is the way this miserable group drags the Quran into their stupid politics, and hold it up as if they actually have any concern for the teachings of the Quran. :-(

of course - this linking of the Quran - and therefore of Islam - with this group of cannon fodder for the bearded politicians of Pakistan is music to the ears of an islam hater like you.

So the Apartheid status has begun for Indian Muslims.

Wonderful. Now India is really going down the drain....wait for the fireworks.....

Economic superpower? It will be trampled underfoot ...

From The Asian Age, Aug 8

Mumbai: Probe Muslims who travel

The Maharashtra government has issued a directive to the state police to thoroughly investigate every Muslim who travels abroad.

Senior executives in multinationals are being visited at their residences by police inspectors asking questions, demanding to see copies of their passports and insisting on letters from the executives’ employers certifying the travel.

A vice-president of the largest multinational in India, living in a posh colony of Mumbai, told this newspaper that he was at home when two police inspectors visited his residence demanding to see him. When they learnt he was not there they left instructions with his family that he should visit the police station with details of his passport and travel abroad. However, before entering his house, the policemen questioned his staff outside the residence to find out his movements.

Well-placed sources said that a directive had been issued by the government and the state police had to act on it. Every Muslim, the sources said, were under close watch and had to provide proof of his travel as well as letters justifying it as and when approached by the police. Social activists in Mumbai claim that ``thousands`` of Muslims have been arrested from different parts of the city in the wake of the Mumbai blasts with the police refusing to give details, or even the proof required for the detention.

A group of 18 MPs, cutting across party lines, met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh recently to draw his attention to the large-scale arrests and urged his immediate intervention. Prime Minister Singh is reported to have shared their concerns and, according to the MPs, said that if Muslims were indeed being harassed in the manner suggested by the MPs, it was ``a very serious matter``. He said that the hands of the terrorists would be strengthened if innocent Muslims were humiliated. He said he would take up the matter and urged the MPs to meet Union home minister Shivraj Patil. Nothing has come of this till date.

It could not be ascertained if the directive covered Muslims travelling to all parts of the world, or just to select targeted countries. The Americans already have a system in place where the airlines have to supply them with the passenger list and details of those travelling to the US as soon as a particular flight takes off. Sources said these rules have been made more stringent now. Social activists from Mumbai, who did not want to be quoted at this stage as they would come under ``needless pressure``, said there was fear and anger amongst the minorities over the large-scale arrests and their total inability to seek justice. ``The arrests have not led the authorities to solve the Mumbai blasts, but that has not stopped them from rounding up any and every one whose only crime might be that he did not grease the hands of the beat policeman,`` the activists said.

Muslim executives, who are furious with the attitude of the police, have been told that there is little they can but do but ``cooperate`` in the face of a government directive. Senior police officers also expressed their inability to do anything with every Muslim living in the state now being flagged as and when he travels abroad. The only concession that the police can make, the sources said, ``is interrogate them at their residence instead of getting them over to the police station``.

Mumbai police commissioner A.N. Roy has confirmed a large number of arrests, but refused to give an exact figure when questioned by journalists. Despite the arrests, the anti-terror squad of the Mumbai police remains clueless about the identity of those who carried out the seven serial blasts on July 11, 2006. The Mumbai police has openly admitted that Muslim men who visited West Asia were suspects. Several such men have been picked up with little more proof except that they visited the ``suspect`` region on work. The sources said that employees of smaller companies, when questioned or detained, could, and were, losing their jobs.

Re: # 280

Masadi, the arab goo-chaater living on morsels thrown by Goras, writes:

> Unfortunately for your dumb argument, at the time of partition there were no recent
> ``outside implants`` who were dispossessing the locals through colonial decree

You have modified a wrong to suit your own little theory ... Would Israel have been ok if it
had forcibly converted the muslims to Judaism ? In any case even the Israelis are not
recent implants.. The state is no half a century old ... and many of the jews in it have been
living on that land for a much more period of time ....

There were Jews who wanted the state of Israel, the same way there were muslims who
wanted Pukistan .... wats the difference .... and both the states had British blessings ...

Now go home ... Your Gori owner might be lookng for you in the park .... !

#300 thankfully the christians & Jews have grown out of it ....

er..ahem...about those 10,000 catholic priests.....

Re: # 298

> This proves two points: (1) After Israelites were killed by plague, they took non-`chosen`
> slave girls for procreation; and (2) Jews were the biggest paedophiles of them ALL!

I always suspected these abrahimic religions to be built upon paed0philes ,,,,,thankfully the
christians & Jews have grown out of it ....

:P

Freudian slip...We Pakis, we condoms...