Encounter with a Fighter

No wonder the world doesn`t take El Presidente too seriously.

He is sounding more and more like our own Tahmed2 in his hypocrisy and double-speak. The man who called the ``war on terrorism`` a Crusade has now coined the phrase ``Islamic Fascism.`` Now, this can be quite confusing:

1. Christian militants with huge crosses on their chests are called Crusaders and not Christian Fascists.
2. In Lebanon, the heavily armed, murderous Maronite militias were called Phalangists and not Christian Fascists.
3. In the Occupied West Bank and Gaza, the heavily armed, murderous, gun-toting Israelis were called ``settlers,`` and not Jewish Fascists.
4. The bomb-exploding terrorists in Northern Ireland and Britain were called IRA and not Catholic Fascists.
5. The Armageddon hopeful, rampant cheerleaders of Israeli bombings on Lebanese civilians are called ``Evangelists,`` and not Christian Fundamental Fascists.
6. The violent right-wing Hindutva rapists/murderers/arsonists of the BJP/RSS/VHP/JS/BD/SP/SS are called participants in the world`s largest democracy and not Hindu Fascists.
7. The terrorist LTTE in SL are called ``Tigers`` and not Hindu Fascists.
8. The cross burning Ku Klux Klan in the US are called ``hate-mongers,`` and not white Christian Fascists.
9. The land grabbing, native people killing, murderous Spaniards and Portuguese were called ``Explorers,`` and not Christian Fascists.
10. The land-grabbing, exclusivist, violent, well-financed and well-armed founders of Israel were called Zionists, and not Jewish Fascists.

Re: # 476
Keep posting the good news of Muslim Victory & the humiliations suffered by United Satans & Usrael.
Such doses are extremely important for the ill health of Mirzais & murtadoons here. whenever they start feeling a bit better crush them with the good news from the world of Islam.

They shrivel & become water like the salt-sprayed earthworms.

The idea is to make their life a living hell--just by spreading the good news.

You have misunderstood.Saying the Afterlife is the real life does NOT mean one
does not value this life. It just means that one keeps the temporal nature of this
life in perspective and not live as if this was the only life.

Both are important, the Afterlife is more important.



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From The Independent:

Robert Fisk: As the 6am ceasefire takes effect... the real war begins
Published: 14 August 2006
The real war in Lebanon begins today. The world may believe - and Israel may believe - that the UN ceasefire due to come into effect at 6am today will mark the beginning of the end of the latest dirty war in Lebanon after up to 1,000 Lebanese civilians and more than 30 Israeli civilians have been killed. But the reality is quite different and will suffer no such self-delusion: the Israeli army, reeling under the Hizbollah`s onslaught of the past 24 hours, is now facing the harshest guerrilla war in its history. And it is a war they may well lose.

In all, at least 39 - possibly 43 - Israeli soldiers have been killed in the past day as Hizbollah guerrillas, still launching missiles into Israel itself, have fought back against Israel`s massive land invasion into Lebanon.

Israeli military authorities talked of ``cleaning`` and ``mopping up`` operations by their soldiers south of the Litani river but, to the Lebanese, it seems as if it is the Hizbollah that have been doing the ``mopping up``. By last night, the Israelis had not even been able to reach the dead crew of a helicopter - shot down on Saturday night - which crashed into a Lebanese valley.

Officially, Israel has now accepted the UN ceasefire that calls for an end to all Israeli offensive military operations and Hizbollah attacks, and the Hizbollah have stated that they will abide by the ceasefire - providing no Israeli troops remain inside Lebanon. But 10,000 Israeli soldiers - the Israelis even suggest 30,000, although no one in Beirut takes that seriously - have now entered the country and every one of them is a Hizbollah target.

From this morning, Hizbollah`s operations will be directed solely against the invasion force. And the Israelis cannot afford to lose 40 men a day. Unable to shoot down the Israeli F-16 aircraft that have laid waste to much of Lebanon, the Hizbollah have, for years, prayed and longed and waited for the moment when they could attack the Israeli army on the ground.

Now they are set to put their long-planned campaign into operation. Thousands of their members remain alive and armed in the ruined hill villages of southern Lebanon for just this moment and, only hours after their leader, Sayed Hassan Nasrallah, warned Israel on Saturday that his men were waiting for them on the banks of the Litani river, the Hizbollah sprang their trap, killing more than 20 Israeli soldiers in less than three hours.

Israel itself, according to reports from Washington and New York, had long planned its current campaign against Lebanon - provoked by Hizbollah`s crossing of the Israeli frontier, its killing of three soldiers and seizure of two others on 12 July - but the Israelis appear to have taken no account of the guerrilla army`s most obvious operational plan: that if they could endure days of air attacks, they would eventually force Israel`s army to re-enter Lebanon on the ground and fight them on equal terms.

Hizbollah`s laser-guided missiles - Iranian-made, just as most Israeli arms are US-made - appear to have caused havoc among Israeli troops on Saturday, and their downing of an Israeli helicopter was without precedent in their long war against Israel.

In theory, aid convoys will be able to move south today to the thousands of Lebanese Shia trapped in their villages but no one knows whether the Hizbollah will wait for several days - they, like the Israelis, are physically tired - to allow that help to reach the crushed towns.

Atrocities continue across Lebanon, the most recent being the attack on a convoy of cars carrying 600 Christian families from the southern town of Marjayoun. Led by soldiers of the Lebanese army, they trailed north on Saturday up the Bekaa valley only to be assaulted by Israeli aircraft. At least seven were killed, including the wife of the mayor, a Christian woman who was decapitated by a missile that hit her car.

In west Beirut yesterday, the Israeli air force destroyed eight apartment blocks in which six families were living. Twelve civilians were killed in southern Lebanon, including a mother, her children and their housemaid.

An Israeli was killed by Hizballoh`s continued Katyusha fire across the border. The guerrilla army - ``terrorists`` to the Israelis and Americans but increasingly heroes across the Muslim world - have many dead to avenge, although their leadership seems less interested in exacting an eye for an eye and far more eager to strike at Israel`s army.

At this fatal juncture in Middle East history - and no one should underestimate this moment`s importance in the region - the Israeli army appears as impotent to protect its country as the Hizbollah clearly is to protect Lebanon.

But if the ceasefire collapses, as seems certain, neither the Israelis nor the Americans appear to have any plans to escape the consequences. The US saw this war as an opportunity to humble Hizbollah`s Iranian and Syrian sponsors but already it seems as if the tables have been turned. The Israeli military appears to be efficient at destroying bridges, power stations, gas stations and apartment blocks - but signally inefficient in crushing the ``terrorist`` army they swore to liquidate.

``The Lebanese government is our address for every problem or violation of the [ceasefire] agreement,`` Israel`s Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, said yesterday, as if realising the truce would not hold.

And that, of course, provides yet another excuse for Israel to attack the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon.

Far more worrying, however, are the vague terms of the UN Security Council`s resolution on the multinational force supposed to occupy land between the Israeli border and the Litani river.

For if the Israelis and the Hizbollah are at war across the south over the coming weeks, what country will dare send its troops into the jungle that southern Lebanon will have become?

Tragically, and fatally for all involved, the real Lebanon war does indeed begin today.

The real war in Lebanon begins today. The world may believe - and Israel may believe - that the UN ceasefire due to come into effect at 6am today will mark the beginning of the end of the latest dirty war in Lebanon after up to 1,000 Lebanese civilians and more than 30 Israeli civilians have been killed. But the reality is quite different and will suffer no such self-delusion: the Israeli army, reeling under the Hizbollah`s onslaught of the past 24 hours, is now facing the harshest guerrilla war in its history. And it is a war they may well lose.

In all, at least 39 - possibly 43 - Israeli soldiers have been killed in the past day as Hizbollah guerrillas, still launching missiles into Israel itself, have fought back against Israel`s massive land invasion into Lebanon.

Israeli military authorities talked of ``cleaning`` and ``mopping up`` operations by their soldiers south of the Litani river but, to the Lebanese, it seems as if it is the Hizbollah that have been doing the ``mopping up``. By last night, the Israelis had not even been able to reach the dead crew of a helicopter - shot down on Saturday night - which crashed into a Lebanese valley.

Officially, Israel has now accepted the UN ceasefire that calls for an end to all Israeli offensive military operations and Hizbollah attacks, and the Hizbollah have stated that they will abide by the ceasefire - providing no Israeli troops remain inside Lebanon. But 10,000 Israeli soldiers - the Israelis even suggest 30,000, although no one in Beirut takes that seriously - have now entered the country and every one of them is a Hizbollah target.

From this morning, Hizbollah`s operations will be directed solely against the invasion force. And the Israelis cannot afford to lose 40 men a day. Unable to shoot down the Israeli F-16 aircraft that have laid waste to much of Lebanon, the Hizbollah have, for years, prayed and longed and waited for the moment when they could attack the Israeli army on the ground.

Now they are set to put their long-planned campaign into operation. Thousands of their members remain alive and armed in the ruined hill villages of southern Lebanon for just this moment and, only hours after their leader, Sayed Hassan Nasrallah, warned Israel on Saturday that his men were waiting for them on the banks of the Litani river, the Hizbollah sprang their trap, killing more than 20 Israeli soldiers in less than three hours.

Israel itself, according to reports from Washington and New York, had long planned its current campaign against Lebanon - provoked by Hizbollah`s crossing of the Israeli frontier, its killing of three soldiers and seizure of two others on 12 July - but the Israelis appear to have taken no account of the guerrilla army`s most obvious operational plan: that if they could endure days of air attacks, they would eventually force Israel`s army to re-enter Lebanon on the ground and fight them on equal terms.

Hizbollah`s laser-guided missiles - Iranian-made, just as most Israeli arms are US-made - appear to have caused havoc among Israeli troops on Saturday, and their downing of an Israeli helicopter was without precedent in their long war against Israel.
In theory, aid convoys will be able to move south today to the thousands of Lebanese Shia trapped in their villages but no one knows whether the Hizbollah will wait for several days - they, like the Israelis, are physically tired - to allow that help to reach the crushed towns.

Atrocities continue across Lebanon, the most recent being the attack on a convoy of cars carrying 600 Christian families from the southern town of Marjayoun. Led by soldiers of the Lebanese army, they trailed north on Saturday up the Bekaa valley only to be assaulted by Israeli aircraft. At least seven were killed, including the wife of the mayor, a Christian woman who was decapitated by a missile that hit her car.

In west Beirut yesterday, the Israeli air force destroyed eight apartment blocks in which six families were living. Twelve civilians were killed in southern Lebanon, including a mother, her children and their housemaid.

An Israeli was killed by Hizballoh`s continued Katyusha fire across the border. The guerrilla army - ``terrorists`` to the Israelis and Americans but increasingly heroes across the Muslim world - have many dead to avenge, although their leadership seems less interested in exacting an eye for an eye and far more eager to strike at Israel`s army.

At this fatal juncture in Middle East history - and no one should underestimate this moment`s importance in the region - the Israeli army appears as impotent to protect its country as the Hizbollah clearly is to protect Lebanon.

But if the ceasefire collapses, as seems certain, neither the Israelis nor the Americans appear to have any plans to escape the consequences. The US saw this war as an opportunity to humble Hizbollah`s Iranian and Syrian sponsors but already it seems as if the tables have been turned. The Israeli military appears to be efficient at destroying bridges, power stations, gas stations and apartment blocks - but signally inefficient in crushing the ``terrorist`` army they swore to liquidate.

``The Lebanese government is our address for every problem or violation of the [ceasefire] agreement,`` Israel`s Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, said yesterday, as if realising the truce would not hold.

And that, of course, provides yet another excuse for Israel to attack the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon.

Far more worrying, however, are the vague terms of the UN Security Council`s resolution on the multinational force supposed to occupy land between the Israeli border and the Litani river.

For if the Israelis and the Hizbollah are at war across the south over the coming weeks, what country will dare send its troops into the jungle that southern Lebanon will have become?

Tragically, and fatally for all involved, the real Lebanon war does indeed begin today.


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Bush `viewed war in Lebanon as a curtain-raiser for attack on Iran`
considered Israel`s actions as a necessary prerequisite for a possible strike against Iran.

MASHA-ALLAH




Third Israeli Warship destroyed by Hezbollah
Publication time: 12 August 2006, 01:10

Israel `s third warship has been targeted by Hezbollah rockets in the Sur coastal waters in south Lebanon, which caused it to sink with 13 crew aboard.

According to IRNA, Lebanon `s Hezbollah by issuing a statement announced that this Israeli warship was carrying 12 officer and one Israeli occupation soldier and was targeted with a rocket in the Al-Mansour coastal area and sank with all its crew aboard.

Earlier Lebanon `s Islamic Resistance forces destroyed two other Israeli warships carrying 77 crew members.



Also an Israeli missile base in Al-Jalil Al-Ala in northern occupied Palestine was hit by Hezbollah `s missile.



The Zionist daily Maariv also reported that a Zionist settler was killed in Hezbollah `s missile attack on Aaka in northern occupied Palestine.



Meanwhile during Hezbollah `s missile attacks on Kiryat Shmona and Nahariya two buildings caught fire and collapsed.



The Zionist regime army on Friday once again bombarded the Ber Al-Abd area in south Beirut and also the villages around Sur in south Lebanon.

GT #467 Glad that made sense to you. Enjoyed chatting with you. Regards.

Re: # 469 naqsh

Man - that was a big load of BS...:) .... do you actually believe in that kind of cr@p?.... tell me you are just kidding....

Re: # 471

behram;

``Because we non-muslims are all about love and we care. It is all about self, you idiot. ``

hmm...........but shouldn`t the muslims be glad that their brothers and sisters have reached the Real Life quickly?

Re: # 470 by Netizen on August 13, 2006 5:15pm PT

{so why care if muslims are killed? } Because we non-muslims are all about love and we care. It is all about self, you idiot.

Re: # 469

naqsh...

``No, because we know that the Afterlife is the Real life. This life is relatively just like a
mirage. ``

so why care if muslims are killed?

Re: # 468

No, because we know that the Afterlife is the Real life. This life is relatively just like a
mirage. Why work for the temporal at the expense of the Eternal. Actually, what
this philosophy does is give a urgency to this life too which makes every second
timeless and precious. It is the secret of an enjoyable life. All the Messengers have
taught the same thing. Christ (upon him be peace) put it in these words: be in this world but not of this world.

Re: # 463
[..Let me tell you the sign of a true Muslim: When death comes, there`s a smile on his lips! ..]

Yep - it`s called the culture of death... you guys love death much more than life ... which is why things are so f***ed up in muslim communities around the world....

tahmed,

I think Faisal Devji is using #3 as a premise of understanding the on-going jehad, buth the violent and non-violent forms. The distinction between #3 and #5 could be thin. Wouldn`t you say? I do understand now your distinction between #3 and #4. It would be nice to know what masadi thinks.

Regards.

Re: # 458

tahmed,

Thank you. I would understand Jehad as a process through which the `good` confronts the `bad`. You have stated how Jehad as a process is or has been used. I found # 3 fascinating -the means to secure an identity. Both through violent or non-violent means! I really got to understand this one.

Thanks once again.

[Kafir hai tau aafaaq mein gum hai
Mu`min hai tau gum hain usmein aafaaq! (hope i got it right!)] -naqshbandi.

...no you didn`t...and you are praising a first generation brahmin...shame on you... ;)

#462 by Naqshbandi / Echoboom .. several

..And the most relevant to the recent (ongoing--despite `ceasefire`) conflict in Lebanon:

While deferring to your choice, there`re just so many of his couplets which define exactly how victory is achieved ... like the recent one ...

Kafir hai to shamsheer pey karta hai bharosa,
Momin hai to bey-taigh bhi larhta hai sipahi.

Rgds

Re: # 462

Translation of Iqbal`s Persian couplet for the non-Farsi daans on here:

Let me tell you the sign of a true Muslim:
When death comes, there`s a smile on his lips!