Condi's Waterloo

majumdar (#42)

There is not a single issue that these mullahs can point out to justify declaration of Ahmadis as non-Muslims. They keep insisting that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophet, but are unable to back up their claim.

When pushed for a reference, our resident mullah Urstruly posted a hadith … where the dear Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said … “I am the last Prophet, and this mosque of mine is the last mosque”.

I asked our resident mullah to read the hadith again … carefully, this time … and to explain the meaning of “last” … as in “last mosque”. He could not respond!!! Ironically, the same hadith was later quoted by Naqshbandi Sahib, but he too could not explain the meaning of “last”.

On a slightly different note, it is worth mentioning that in Quran Allah Himself uses the term “Muslim” for believers, without vesting any authority in anyone, in any form to declare anyone a non-Muslim. When fanatic mullahs start declaring others non-Muslims, they are in violation of Quranic teachings.

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Violent persecution of Ahmadis is a vivid example of sheer hypocrisy that infests the ummah and its leadership. They continue to spread propaganda against Ahmadi-Muslims, riling masses to attack Ahmadi mosques, businesses, homes, and lives. All this, while they continue to point fingers at neo-cons and raising a hue and cry about violation of ummah’s rights by western infidels.

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This may surprise you, but according to these mullahs, Islamic punishment for adultery is death. Furthermore, according to them, a person who leaves Islam too should be killed. Furthermore, a person who blasphemes Islam also should be killed.

The culture of violence and extreme fanaticism that ummah has nurtured all along has now come full circle to haunt them. This view is an important part of the puzzle that completes the picture of turmoil in the Middle East, Iraq, and fanaticism that is associated with ummah. You will hardly see masadi Sahib draw attention to such issues that severely plague the ummah in this day and age.

#42, ballukhan {``Now that we have adressed your groups could you please agree to the assertion that Islamic Fascism specifically exists in the ideologies of Al-Qaeda ``}

Ballu Bhai,
YES.

Let us try to imagine the medium term future. The US/ UK media has now started pointing fingers at Pakistan.

Does that mean that a comprehensive thrashing (threshing???) of Pakistan and the flushing out of the Jehadis is now increasingly imminent !!!!!!

An equal number (if not more) of Jehadis would be present in India too- albeit without state patronage. They would have to be eliminated in the same manner. Also, once we are on an elimination spree, might as well get rid of the myriad Senas, Dals, Leagues & Fronts which keep cropping up and preach hatred.

Perhaps it would be better for both countries to take extreme measures and set their own houses in order. We do not need an Israel/ USA to take care of our own homegrown Hezbollahs.

Re: # 36

Fascism is the odeology which has been well documented and written about. It is like a blue print which the world has recognized as inherently evil and against individual freedom. Fascism shares may of its characterisitcis with other political ideologies and most of the organizations you talked about are indeed fascistic.......

Salim miyan most of these organizations you have referred to are certainly fascistic in nature. [Period]

Now that we have adressed your grouse could you please agree to the assertion that Islamic Fascism specifically exists in the ideologies of Al-Qaeda and can also be seen in other versions of the literalist Islamist ideologies............

Zeemax sahib,

I will not quarrel with you on the tenets of Ahmediyya faith. I know hardly anything about my own faith let alone Islam or its various sects to justify initiating a debate with you. Now I am sure you (and Masadi and Ustruly) would have some valid reason to consider Ahmediyaism as being incompatbile with Islam, Sattarbhai and others may think otherwise. But that`s only individual opinion- what is not right is the state (I have Pakistan in mind) taking sides on the matter and discriminating between citizens for adopting any particular POV or persecuting some sect for expressing that POV.

Regards

Re: # 39
Yeah, because anything less than 10 bearded bastards for one Jewish life is a defeat for Israelis.

Interesting. US media is showing bombed-out buildings and claiming that to be Israeli victory ...

In the meantime, Israelis themselves are saying they have been defeated.

faisaluno #15

`` even a strong supporter of hizbullah like myself could not have dared to imagine that hizbullah would be giving a bloody nose to the USraelis thirty days after being at the end of one of the heaviest bombing campaigns in modern history. i thought tops, hizbullah would last one week. and even that would have been a victory given the past performance of arab armies which had far greater resources at their disposal than hizbullah does. yet even today hizbullah has killed 25 USraeli soldiers and has fired more rockets than on any other day. and you have to remember that USraeli pm had stated couple of day after the start of campaign that half of hizbullah`s fighting capabilities had been destroyed. i think olmert is another one of those candidates who would make a good replacement for the saddam`s minister of information although olmert is still not in the same league as bush. ``

hezbollah is a pin prick. let us not forget if israel`s existence was at stake the response would be different.

next time please watch video tapes of American air raids on Hanoi. It has been more than 30 years. it will give you an idea of what air power can do.

`` i. hizbullah is run on modern scientific lines unlike the p.l.o or nasser`s army. ``

duh ?

`` ii. the organisation exists to protect the interest of its followers rather than to line the pockets of its senior leaders - a hallmark of most arab institutions ``

iii. meritocracy is observed all through the ranks rather than people being appointed on the basis of chithees - another trait common among modern arab institutions ``

there is no evidence nasser was corrupt.

hezbollah has not occupied single square inch of israeli territorry.

egyptian troops inflicted massive losses initially on the isrealis in 1973.

Zeemax (several posts),

This is a bit off the subject, but it is worth responding to your comments about Ahmadis.

You are misinformed about views and movement of Ahmadi-Muslims. You seem to be influenced by anti-Ahmadi propaganda, which is based upon lies and fabrication.

First, a few comments about the Ahmadi-Muslim community: Mirza Sahib, the community founder, claimed to be a prophet of God. Ahmadis fully believe in Allah and Quran, and hold Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in utmost regard. Furthermore, they do not subscribe to the violent and misguided ideology of jihad (propounded to ullema nowadays) and believe in practicing Islam in a peaceful manner and striving harmony between all people. They struggled for the cause of Pakistan and remain loyal to its people despite violent persecution at the hands of its mullahs and political machinery.

Views of Ahmadis have differed from mainstream ullema, who in turn have engaged in despicable propaganda and persecution of Ahmadis. Rumors have been spread about Ahmadis being British agends, Israeli agents, an international drug cartel, and so on.

Try to take a more balanced view of things and not to get blinded by hateful propaganda.

No wonder the world doesn`t take El Presidente too seriously.

He is sounding more and more like our own Tahmed2 in his hypocrisy and double-speak. The man who called the ``war on terrorism`` a Crusade has now coined the phrase ``Islamic Fascism.`` Now, this can be quite confusing:

1. Christian militants with huge crosses on their chests are called Crusaders and not Christian Fascists.
2. In Lebanon, the heavily armed, murderous Maronite militias were called Phalangists and not Christian Fascists.
3. In the Occupied West Bank and Gaza, the heavily armed, murderous, gun-toting Israelis were called ``settlers,`` and not Jewish Fascists.
4. The bomb-exploding terrorists in Northern Ireland and Britain were called IRA and not Catholic Fascists.
5. The Armageddon hopeful, rampant cheerleaders of Israeli bombings on Lebanese civilians are called ``Evangelists,`` and not Christian Fundamental Fascists.
6. The violent right-wing Hindutva rapists/murderers/arsonists of the BJP/RSS/VHP/JS/BD/SP/SS are called participants in the world`s largest democracy and not Hindu Fascists.
7. The terrorist LTTE in SL are called ``Tigers`` and not Hindu Fascists.
8. The cross burning Ku Klux Klan in the US are called ``hate-mongers,`` and not white Christian Fascists.
9. The land grabbing, native people killing, murderous Spaniards and Portuguese were called ``Explorers,`` and not Christian Fascists.
10. The land-grabbing, exclusivist, violent, well-financed and well-armed founders of Israel were called Zionists, and not Jewish Fascists.

#34

MalcomX was a Mirzai. So was Elijah Muhammad. So are the nation of Islam in the US. They are all Mirzais.

Ok, if I accept your definition, then these are NOT Muslims.

But, aren`t these the same people who are converting large sections of the black prison population in US to Islam from Christianity? Which in turn is making Islam the fastest growing religion in the US?

Echoboom screams at the top of his lungs about this all the time here....

Now, if you talk about `interpretation`, that interpretation is different between Sunnis and Shias, Shias and Ismailis, Ismailis and Khojas, Wahabis and DeoBandis, Hanfis and the rest and so forth. BUT, they are all Muslims. Noone denies or rejects the basic tenets.

Mirzais, however, are spies planted by the British who have for the most part been kicked out of Pakistan. Now their base is in London, and major operations are in Africa and USA. MalcomX was a Mirzai. So was Elijah Muhammad. So are the nation of Islam in the US. They are all Mirzais.

I think I didn`t satisfy your point re `interpretation`.

Here, you are wrong in thinking that mirzais are `interpreting` Islam. They are not. In fact they don`t have any religion at all. Mirza Ghulam Mohammad claimed to be a prophet in his later days. That threw the whole facade wide open. Earlier, he was talking of being a `mujaddid` and stuff. But later he came out in the open and formed some religion of his own at the instigation of the British, and then the Lahori party and so forth.

Mirzais are basically atheists.

Of-course one shouldn`t paint people with a wide brush. And of-course people should have the right to interpret religions as per their own understanding. But that`s not the purpose here in case of Mirzais. It is a `formal` and `organised` movement working against the interest of the state called Pakistan.

It is indeed a tragedy that some good people become targets in this confrontation ... but ``gandum mein ghun pissna` is collateral damage. You have just seen one thousand of these in Lebanon .. and the ones supporting those massacres, just check the interacts since 13/7/06.

Zeemax sahib,

Is it fair to taint all members of a community with the same brush. If it is OK for you to call Mirzais traitors, wouldn`t it be unfair to deny kaffirs the right to call all Muslims, terrorists. Being a Muslim living in a non-Muslim land, you should be more than anyone careful about stereotyping anyone.

I don`t know much about the ahmediya faith but don`t u think people should have the right to interpret religions as per their own understanding. Besides, shouldn`t people of all faiths and sects have equal rights as individuals and should states lable people on the basis of their beliefs.

Regards

#29 by majumdar

Okay Majumdar, I trust you. Just please don`t throw anything which I say back at my face which I say in trust.

Hindus are ok. Sikhs are fine. Parsis are wonderful. Muslims in India are my folks. Why should I have anything against them? Hindutvadis yes, because they have an agenda to march on Islamabad one day. But those are few, and insignificant, though they seem to be in majority on Chowk, putting the entire Hindu nation to shame. I`m India`s friend as you can see from my many interactions on these boards.

Mirzais are different. These are fifth columnists created during British rule to divide Indian Muslims. Later, these were carefully planted in all echelons of Pak administration after partition to sabotage the state, which they did do in many ways. Perhaps some other interactors will tell exactly how many mirazais were in the senior civil services of Pakistan right after its inception. I can safely say, a majority.

They pretend to be patriots but their agenda is to undermine the Pakistani state. Now, after having been declared undesirables and non-muslims, they have spread out around the world and spreading their own religion, which is not Islam, in the name of Islam. One of their major battlegrounds is the internet. 90% of the major Islamic sites you come across on the web are not Islamic at all, these are qadiani sites ... spreading misinformation about Hadees and stuff. I could quote you a hundred examples.

Thus, I said what I did. I know the qadiani movement inside-out.

Zeemax sahib,

Really curious. Don`t see why a Mirzai should be worse than a cow-piss drinker. I am a hanud by the way.

Regards

#27 by majumdar

Yaar Majumdar, do you really want a discussion? I mean, are you just trying to bait me or are you curious?

Zeemax sahib,

Why? At least the mirzai believes in one God, Mohammed, Koran etc but the hanud worships millions of gods, snakes, drinks cowpiss and all that.

Regards

#25 by majumdar

Mirzai ...

Zeemax sahib,

Interesting how many people can see it except the blind hindu/mirzai cockroaches on Chowk ...

If you were to encounter a Hindu roach or a Mirzai roach, who would you kill first?

Regards

strange habit these indians have of not being concerned and still doling out advice. khair what do i care. i am busy counting all the cash i have made from my pakistani investments over the last few years including cash i made from predicting the latest deal:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aNUtmagyg9oY&refer=uk

Standard Chartered to Purchase Union Bank of Pakistan (Update2)

Aug. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Standard Chartered Plc, the British lender that makes most of its profit in Asia, agreed to buy an 81 percent stake in Pakistan`s Union Bank Ltd. for $413 million in cash to more than double its branches in the country.

...The purchase, the biggest in Pakistan`s banking industry, will help Standard Chartered expand in a $118 billion economy that Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz estimates will expand at an annual pace of 8 percent in the next five years.

...``Pakistan is a strongly growing country that is integral to Standard Chartered`s Middle East and Other South Asia strategy,`` said Chairman Bryan Sanderson, 65. The deal will ``significantly increase`` the bank`s presence in an ``important market,`` he said.

...Pakistan is ``a market we truly believe in,`` Chief Executive Officer Mervyn Davies, 53, said in an interview yesterday. ``We are doing well there and it`s a country we think we can do even better in.``

#22 faisuluno

I am not concerned by your plight. I am sitting back and watching the unfolding show (sorry if my smug slip is showing).

aww, is`nt it sweet to see indians being concerned by our plight. perhaps our independence day is causing a change of heart in them. i think we should invite them over and get them to say bad things about hizbullah in front of a large gathering maybe outside badshahi masjid after juma. and while they are at it, we should also get them to abuse pakistani army as well as islam. i think they will be surprised by the reaction of awam. in fact so eager am i to watch this tamasha that i am willing to pay airfare of any indian willing to take this challenge. catch is that i be allowed to film this event and that i get the copyrights.

any takers out there?

I am amazed at all the ``ra-ra`` postings hailing Hizbollocks ``victory`` over Israel from Pakistanis. Here was a beautiful country which had been painstakingly rebuilt but has now been all but destroyed to serve the nefarious needs of Hizbollocks` medieval Syrian and Iranian masters. But for armchair muslim warriors that is nothing but collateral damage.

After the discovery of the airline bomb plot which is exclusively Pakistani in origin, I would have different thoughts if I were a Pakistani. Had they succeeded, you can rest assured that the Pakistan-Afghan border areas, cities like Karachi and Pakistani nuclear crown jewels locations would have moved one step closer to becoming future glass mines (after the radiation dies down). That is why Musharaff (who I think is the last brainy Paki) hurriedly coughed up the conspirators in their midst.

As for Pakistanis, their passports have already become radioactive as everyone knows.

Jobless Pakistanis want to take on the problems of the rest of the Muslim world. Zeemax, Urstruly get a life. Or at least try to preserve yours. Because Pakistan`s day of reckoning is a step away from the next 9/11.

#19 by faisaluno

Yes. Happy B`Day Pakistan. May it always bloom and ever shine as our homeland. There will be no other. Pakistan Zinda Bad, Painda Bad. We must all spare no efforts in ridding it of its ills.

folks, its 14th august in pak. happy birthday to all of us. despite all the headaches and the frustrations pakistani citizenship entails, i know i would not like to live any place else. i travel all over the world for work but i am always the happiest when the plane is about to hit the runway of jinnah intl karachi.

#17 by faisaluno

So now you know.

As I wrote earlier, the battle lines are clearly drawn. It is no more a choice between black and white or shades of grey. It is only black or white. Evil or good. Either with us or against us. Muslims didn`t say this. Usraelis did. Noone can sit on the fence anymore. Shades of greay are gone .... history.

Now, we`ll see who wins. It is a war of attrition.

this is what the jew york times is reporting. and they say muslims have a problem with violence. note the these acts are cheered on by USraelis and their kaalay lovers. in comparison i have yet to see anyone praising those alleged bombers caught in ldn:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/13/world/middleeast/13convoy.html?ref=middleeast

Israeli planes have been striking Lebanese civilians since the beginning of the war, hitting a truckload of fleeing farmers, a Lebanese photographer and a village during a funeral. Even so, Friday’s strike still came as a shock: the convoy was more than 500 cars long and included a town mayor, an entire Lebanese Army unit and its own ambulance. The Israeli military said it had banned the movement of cars south of the Litani River, though the convoy was hit well north of it.

#15 by faisaluno

Faisaluno, it must be noted that Israel disregarded even the gentlemanly appeal made by Kofi that even though time remained till formal cease-fire, it would be expected that the sides will respect the spirit of the agreement and cease-fire immediately. In return, Israel pushed on towards Litani yesterday losing 24 soldiers, and today bombed south beirut again. Hazb, in return rocketed Haifa. Hazb had been respecting Kofi`s appeal. There were no rockets after the announcement yesterday.

That is the reality of Usrael. These people have no respect, none whatsoever, for any laws, conventions, or even the plain decency of Kofi Annan.

even a strong supporter of hizbullah like myself could not have dared to imagine that hizbullah would be giving a bloody nose to the USraelis thirty days after being at the end of one of the heaviest bombing campaigns in modern history. i thought tops, hizbullah would last one week. and even that would have been a victory given the past performance of arab armies which had far greater resources at their disposal than hizbullah does. yet even today hizbullah has killed 25 USraeli soldiers and has fired more rockets than on any other day. and you have to remember that USraeli pm had stated couple of day after the start of campaign that half of hizbullah`s fighting capabilities had been destroyed. i think olmert is another one of those candidates who would make a good replacement for the saddam`s minister of information although olmert is still not in the same league as bush.

also while we celebrate hizbullah victory, we should not forget the price paid in blood by the lebanese. hizbullah`s victory has ensured that these lives were not wasted in vain. the last occupation by USrael resulted in 20,000 dead lebanese. these lives would not have been lost had previous arab armies shown the same courage, commitment and resourcefulness that hizbullah has done.

so why has hizbullah succeeded when others have failed? many reasons chief among them are:

i. hizbullah is run on modern scientific lines unlike the p.l.o or nasser`s army.

ii. the organisation exists to protect the interest of its followers rather than to line the pockets of its senior leaders - a hallmark of most arab institutions

iii. meritocracy is observed all through the ranks rather than people being appointed on the basis of chithees - another trait common among modern arab institutions

another consequence of hizbullah victory is that ummah has seen who will protect its interest and who will sell its interest for a couple of dinars. the red area below represents lebanon:

I see Hazb has taken my advice in going after Haifa in #1:

...it is still a few days before the agreement comes into effect. Hazb would do right in squeezing off a few Zilzals to bury a couple of thousand roaches in their Haifa shelters alongwith their iPods and crossword puzzles. It has nothing to lose....

... but still no Zilzals...

There`s still some 10 hours. Perhaps .....

Also @ bulleya:

If an international peacekeeping force is deployed in S. Lebanon, then wouldn`t that technically be a victory (albeit not a military one) for Israel and not Hezbollah?

@ bulleya, #6:

``.though i think it is more the govt. than the people of saudi arabia``

If the ppl in question are Wahhabis, then why not also them hankering for destruction of the Shias?

stuka...........``Its all relative dude. Hezbollah os fighting well relative to its capabilities. Hezbolaah is not saving anyone`s ass, not even its own. Heck, it`s own claim to victory is the fact that its managed to stay the course; not the exact definition of vistory, right?``

i am not sure how relative it is............

the aim of any war is to win the political battle. not the military battle. israel`s political aim was to destroy hezbollah. now it is going for a un ceasefire, while hezbollah is still alive and well. so israel has lost the political fight. the israelis are, themselves, acknowledging this on their websites.......

not only has hezbollah saved its own ass, it has saved lebanon`s (or at least lebanon`s pride) and it has politically defeated israel.......do keep in mind that the last time israel invaded lebanon, its armies reached beirut in two days! before that it destroyed egypt in six days!.........

so staying the course and surviving and forcing the invader to accept a ceasefire is a victory in guirrella warfare...........basically, israel has concluded it cannot risk any more losses, and that it will not be able to achieve its sole objective of the war...........

The threat that Neo-Islamic terrorism — which is but another name for fascism feeding on a perverse misinterpretation of the mideast war — poses to mankind is real. It must not be belittled.

Even as we heave a sigh of relief over the thousands of mainly British and American lives saved in the thwarted aircraft explosions last week, we are duty-bound to ask ourselves the inescapable question: Who is responsible for the death of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians in all those ‘‘shock and awe’’ bombings, a macabre reality-TV spectacle which the world community watched helplessly? Who is responsible for the horrendous bloodletting that is still taking place in Iraq on almost a daily basis?

Now that Round 1 is over, my prayers go out to the souls of those killed in this latest violance. Lebanese civilians who were killed in their homes, Lebanese civilians who were told by Israel to leave but bombed when they were doing exactly what was told, Lebanese soldiers who never fought but were killed in their barracks, the brave Hazb warriors who stood in front of Merkavas and fired anti-tank artillery shells point blank while perishing themselves, the Israeli soldiers who are 19-20 year olds and think they`re protecting their folks from another `shua` (holocaust), and last but not least the Israeli civilians who died while just trying to have the right of sunbathing on the beaches of Arab lands.

My heart goes out to all of them.

however, it is not france, but hezbollah that has saved lebanon`s ass..........at least that is what the israeli press is, itself, saying.......hezbollah is putting up a superb fight..........to the point that the israeli govt. has had to replace the maj. general who was commanding the forces......and there is now call, in israel, for removing olmert for launching this........


Its all relative dude. Hezbollah os fighting well relative to its capabilities. Hezbolaah is not saving anyone`s ass, not even its own. Heck, it`s own claim to victory is the fact that its managed to stay the course; not the exact definition of vistory, right?

bulleya,

On your recommendation I visited Haaretz.com. Here`s a sampling:

Title: Only a Matter of time
Name: Jay
City: State: USA

F... iSrael! strongest military my a.. The arabs better buy some jets then it would be over.

Interesting how many people can see it except the blind hindu/mirzai cockroaches on Chowk ...

stuka..........``France is the country that saved Lebanaon`s ass. While the Sunni Wahabbi bros were sitting on their arses quietly hoping for the demise of the Shia.``

the second part is correct, however the first part is not.....sunni wahabbis (i assume you mean saudi arabia) are sitting on its ass doing nothing.....though i think it is more the govt. than the people of saudi arabia.....the kings cannot risk their parasitical relationship with the us govt.........nor are they too fond of the shias uprising, since the oil in saudi arabia is in shia parts.............and arabs don`t want a rising iran............

however, it is not france, but hezbollah that has saved lebanon`s ass..........at least that is what the israeli press is, itself, saying.......hezbollah is putting up a superb fight..........to the point that the israeli govt. has had to replace the maj. general who was commanding the forces......and there is now call, in israel, for removing olmert for launching this........

neither israel nor usa would not have gone for a un resolution, had they felt they could achieve their aim of destroying hezbollah........the world opinion is turning against israel for committing the state terrorism (people should not be afraid of calling this state terrorism) of killing 1000 lebanese in their homes and on the streets............while hezbollah is still well dug in.......

i think israel did not realize that the hezbollah had good anti-tank missiles or the network of tunnels........at least that is what the israeli press is saying.......

``The most important line that has been crossed in this war is that now it has been firmly established, in the world conscience, that the enemy is the enemy whether it wears a uniform or not; and it is not a war crime to go after him wherever or whomever he is, in order to squeeze the last vestige of life out of him. ``

What war and what war crime?? All this is for the consumption of your own people, no one else.

France is the country that saved Lebanaon`s ass. While the Sunni Wahabbi bros were sitting on their arses quietly hoping for the demise of the Shia. If this war has shown anything, its the true face of Sunni Wahabbi Muslims who do pretty good at killing innocent civilians in airlines, helpless Shia minorities in theor own countries, but sit on their buts when it comes to a real fight.

It will be a fatal mistake for Lebanon to let US and France get away this one more attrocity. Unless Jeudo-American aggressor are made to pay war ransom for all the damages they caused, these resolutions are receipe for yet another war. By the way who the guck is France to poke their nose in this business.

the most competent individual in the bush cabinet, and most importantly, the only one who had seen war, was colin powell. all the other ones, specifically the neo-cons ran away from vietnam, including cheney and bush.........

everything powell said is turning out to be true, and he is the one who gets fired......while rumsfeld, with extremly low ratings around the world, is still there.......it doesn`t make sense........condeleeza rice is in way over head in this position.......she is supposed to be a child prodigy type genius, but her expertise is all academic and that too in the area of ussr.....

i think the us administration is now simply making decisions on the fly in iraq, afghanistan and the general middle east..........things are completely out of their control.......they have started something they cannot end..........

israel has started something it cannot end, also........but it seems like it is willing to realize its mistakes and makea u-turn quickly, even if it means the career of its own prime minister, being at stake.........the coming elections in the usa in november are going to decide the future of the middle east.......and eventually of the neo-con establishment.........

Round 1 of the latest wave seems to be nearing an end. Usrael did the right thing in backing off as it can do no more than bounce the rubble with further air-campaigns, and/or its little jew boys would be slaughtered in the event of a deeper ground offensive. Meanwhile, Hazb was pulling out its Zilzals for Haifa in the next phase.

Let`s see if Hazb accepts the agreement. The tilt is obvious in that this agreement gives Hazb nothing while gives back Usrael its two jew boys. Rest of vital issues like Arab prisoners, Shebaa Farms, and War Reperations have been all left to BS like emphasizing the need to address urgently and mindful of the sensitivity... etc.

In any event, it is still a few days before the agreement comes into effect. Hazb would do right in squeezing off a few Zilzals to bury a couple of thousand roaches in their Haifa shelters alongwith their iPods and crossword puzzles. It has nothing to lose.

The most important line that has been crossed in this war is that now it has been firmly established, in the world conscience, that the enemy is the enemy whether it wears a uniform or not; and it is not a war crime to go after him wherever or whomever he is, in order to squeeze the last vestige of life out of him.