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Re: # 238 zee

Yep - I read that story in cnn... warmed the cockles of my heart... good old georgie boy... he sure recognizes a macaca when he sees one... :)

Urstruly

“What really intrigues me is the reason why I am a part of this group. What is that that has made me stoop that low?”

A form of habit (masturbation). An addiction (smoking, drugs, alcohol). That sums up Chowk.

There is nothing to debate at Chowk anymore other than pu$$y and yo paki.

Re: # 237 godot
[....There is nothing to debate at Chowk anymore ...]

well, then don`t debate, nobody is forcing you to come here and debate... so take a break, make some liquid bombs and see what happens....

Let others who like chowk continue with their ``debates``... deal?...

Re: # 239 by mohar:

``well, then don`t debate, nobody is forcing you to come here and debate... so take a break, make some liquid bombs and see what happens.... ``

That is fine and zeemax may leave. But you see I do not want him to leave ... I come to this site to read what he has to say, and you will agree that there is something to learn from him. So what is more costly - (a) loosing zeemax and godot; or (b) stop abusing? Also do consider this, if all these guys leave and the rest simply ignore the abuse then who will be there to abuse.

It is your choice. But it would be nice if people restrain their abuse if not stop it.

Re: # 245 GT

I didn`t ask anybody leave - just for them to take a break and evaluate where they stand in their respective lives...:)

I don`t think ``abuse`` is the problem here... I mean - Do you see any khasi ever complaining about the so called abuse?... no. because, there ain`t no abuse here - only interactions... interactions that have passed the chowk security checks and certified to be perfectly legal...

Some people love to whine... there ain`t much you can do to make them happy... believe me, I have tried... doesn`t work...

Re: # 247 by mohar,

Fine, some people are OK with abuse. But some are not. Why do we want to upset those who do not like to be abused?

I am not asking anyone to make others feel `happy`. I am simply asking, how hard is it not to upset people through abuse. In fact, I am not even against making people upset. Hey, we should make people more than upset if we so determine, but it would be nice if that could be done without abuse.

Salim,

To understand this phenomenon, we must not stray from the purpose. The purpose is to keep the conversation on-track. Not to merely retaliate.

The question is `how to keep the conversation on-track`. Does the chowk-staff do it or the interactors themselves through any means at their disposal?

I have to admit though that the second option too doesn`t really work and leaves a bad taste in the mouth, resulting in disinterest with the whole thing.

So, it`s a problem for those who want to remain on this site at all.

I don`t agree with bulleya that we should select whom we want to interact with and ignore the rest. In that case resorting to instant messaging is better.

Re: # 234 zee

chowk-staff won`t do it... so it`s upto you and HP, the paki who hates to be called a paki [talk about self-loathing] ... so get your guards up fellas... the macacas are coming... in hordes... :)...

Yo pakis... why are you unncessarily getting your chaddies in a knot?.... we khasis are not complaining about being called a khasi: khasi...macaca... horrible hinoood... or whatever... in fact, we welcome it... better be called a khasi than killed in jihad.... I mean, HP chanting khasi is better than HP with a liquid bomb up his a**... right?

So - don`t bother your pretty heads over this matter... we love you guys just the way you are... and we love George Allen too... when push comes to shove - who do you think he is going to send to gitmo?...

#230, Zeemax quoting HP {``...if you continue to allow people to abuse, they begin to walk all over you. When you come back and give it back to them ten times more their behavior changes pretty fast. ``}

Zee,
As an extremely polite and well-behaved interactor, I try to refrain from engaging in gutter-speak and discussions of people`s family members. However, I do agree with HP that there are certain foul-mouthed toilet bowls who deserve massive retaliation. It hurts me to resort to retaliation but it does work.

Re: # 232 salim
[...It hurts me to resort to retaliation but it does work...]

Yep - so we all agree then... ``paki`` and ``macaca``[or khasi] are all good words... the former was immortalized by George Bush, the later coined by George Allen.... I mean, by George - what`s the whining all about?...

can somebody explain this to zeemax and HP ?.... they are still weeping...

I think Chowk should allow anything and everything. There is no way to figure out what is correct and what is incorrect. And who should form the Chowk police? Some of the individuals I completely disagree with seem to consider themselves the primary candidates for the Chowk police? Why should they be allowed? Will they ever censor their own posts?

If a person can prove through an argument that the facts provided by another interactor are false, the other interactor should have the decency to issue a public apology. This has always been my formula on freedom of speech issues, be it related to religion or politics or public personalities. In real life, the offended party should have the legal right to ask for a financial compensation, also.

On Chowk, people should simply move on, if they are abused. If they cannot move on then it is a fault in their own character, which they are blaming on others and on this site. Anyone who gets worked up over abuse, by a person he/she has never seen, and that too through a website, is far too immature to handle any major responsibilities in life.

Such individuals certainly cannot be a leader of any sort. Since having a thick skin and complete control over one`s emotions under adverse circumstances is the cornerstone of leadership.........

In the six or seven years I have been on Chowk, if I publish an article I interact with everyone. However, on other threads, there are around ten or so individuals I interact with. That`s it. I only read their replies. I skip over everyone else`s. I have been doing this throughout the years, I have been here.

On looking back, I have noticed that their are a few individuals here who have adressed well over one hundred replies to me over the years, that I didn`t even read. I didn`t even know that they were interacting with me. I never interacted with them, yet they kept replying to my posts!

This to me, is a sign of a frustrated and disturbed individual. Someone who feels the need to respond repeatedly to someone, who isn`t even talking to him/her. Why bother about someone in such a state of mind? Why not simply skip over him/her?

SR,

When you say:

All I tried to say was that personal attacks of a crass, vulgar and gutter mentality type are unsuitable and should be shunned. No matter what the mitigating circumstances.

You didn`t take HP`s considered opinion into account:

...if you continue to allow people to abuse, they begin to walk all over you. When you come back and give it back to them ten times more their behavior changes pretty fast.

What do you say to that?

Re: # 230 zeemax {``...When you ... give it back to them ten times more their behavior changes .

What do you say to that? ...``}

Yes, that is the testosterone laiden logic that leads to esclation of disharmony and is the precursor of violence. This is the militant Jihadi thinking, or for that matter (same difference) the American/Israeli mind-set (``you go ahead and throw a stone at my M1 tank and I`ll blast your house away...) and we all know what results you get from those kinds of approaches. Some consider it theose attitudes the ``way to go`` about life. Others don`t.

I am one of those who say that this line of logic at the micro level (ie in one`s daily life) is simply the miniature of the macro level phonomena that if taken to its logical end, ultimately reaches lofty heights of absurdity. e.g. : A claustrophobic 60 year old post-menupausal osteoprotic woman can raise her voice in excitement over her precious ``Oil of Ulay`` jar and ``they`` divert the plane from Dullas to Logan and escort it with two combat ready F16s... Imagine not one but TWO F 16s to prevent granny from using Vasline on her hands. This one will go down in the history books.

(This, by the way, is an indicator of a major turning point. A market high. This is like Rosa Parks or like NASDAQ 5,000... things should start turning around from here.

But that is a different debate for another board...)

My purpose of bringing in this example is not to indulge in an irrelevency but to elucidate the principle that ``over reaction,`` be it from hate or fear, is not very useful. It`s usually counterproductive. This is what happens when things go wrong. An sexually abused innocent child grows up to become a dangerous and violent child molestor. On a macro level ook at Israel. Children of yesterday`s Nazi persecution victims becomes mass murderers themselves.

This is what I tried to say to godot as well but, like you and HP, he too disagrees. Different strokes for different folks. As I`ve often said before, opinions are like body orifices, we all have them. This is just mine.

...SR

#226 by tahmed32

``I wasnt saying that your use of the word ``khasi`` was uncalled for, merely asking why you were suddenly using it in almost every post``

It actually came off an article on chowk and so is approved by chowk in two articles...Now the issue is abt the word ``macaca`` made famous by George Allen.....
Now I am debating which one is better....

Urstruly,

Maybe that`s your `id`. Not the Chowk ID, but the Freudian one ....