Chowk Staff August 13, 2006
#177 Posted by adamkhan on August 15, 2006 3:11:08 pm
Re: # 176
Thanks mohar, the picture was from the bbc website..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/south_asia_india0s_partition/html/1.stm
Makes me wonder, What exactly do we celebrate? The past or the present?
Thanks mohar, the picture was from the bbc website..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/south_asia_india0s_partition/html/1.stm
Makes me wonder, What exactly do we celebrate? The past or the present?
#178 Posted by bongdongs on August 15, 2006 3:26:23 pm
adam, you can find more photographs at the getty images website.
http://tinyurl.com/ppd9r
http://tinyurl.com/ppd9r
#179 Posted by VRV on August 15, 2006 3:38:42 pm
Re: # 167
Hamid Babu,
This is the truth behind the days of our Independence - a huge munan cost. Very few people think from this angle. Behind our happiness was the tragic story of human suffering. If people give them religious tags, then they are not for us (I assume that you are with me on this plane of thinking......). People played with the lives of the people.
Thanks for reminding this...
Hamid Babu,
This is the truth behind the days of our Independence - a huge munan cost. Very few people think from this angle. Behind our happiness was the tragic story of human suffering. If people give them religious tags, then they are not for us (I assume that you are with me on this plane of thinking......). People played with the lives of the people.
Thanks for reminding this...
#180 Posted by AhmadBilal on August 15, 2006 4:26:37 pm
And still there is no support for RSS feeds. That is pretty standard now.
#181 Posted by tahmed32 on August 15, 2006 4:41:19 pm
hamidm #167 Thanks for posting that picture - this is the first time ever I can recall seeing something published (assuming posting on chowk equals publishing) that refers to the terrible events of 1947.
Every ``independence day`` let us try to remember all those - hindus, muslims, sikhs - who were killed or forced to leave their homes in 1947.
Every ``independence day`` let us try to remember all those - hindus, muslims, sikhs - who were killed or forced to leave their homes in 1947.
#182 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2006 5:06:12 pm
godot:
I am sorry that I wont be able to oblige with your request of posting from those papers because of my limited navigational skills on the Internet. But I might add that none of those references are interactive; therefore one cannot really compare them to chowk as far as the use of such words in an interactive mode is concerned. But I think that I have seen words like ``clueless`` used on the New York Times interactive section as well as frequently on TV, even during debates by leadership candidates.
Of course, I would be happy if everyone used only King`s/Queen`s english over here.
I am sorry that I wont be able to oblige with your request of posting from those papers because of my limited navigational skills on the Internet. But I might add that none of those references are interactive; therefore one cannot really compare them to chowk as far as the use of such words in an interactive mode is concerned. But I think that I have seen words like ``clueless`` used on the New York Times interactive section as well as frequently on TV, even during debates by leadership candidates.
Of course, I would be happy if everyone used only King`s/Queen`s english over here.
#183 Posted by mohar11 on August 15, 2006 5:17:05 pm
Re: # 177
[....What exactly do we celebrate? The past or the present?...]
good question... the past is ghastly, the present is nothing much to write home about...
On indian side - the partition affected only a small segment of people in north-west corner of the country... it doesn`t really play a big role in the conscious of the nation... not any more... so any ``celebration`` would basically in the hope of a better future...
[....What exactly do we celebrate? The past or the present?...]
good question... the past is ghastly, the present is nothing much to write home about...
On indian side - the partition affected only a small segment of people in north-west corner of the country... it doesn`t really play a big role in the conscious of the nation... not any more... so any ``celebration`` would basically in the hope of a better future...
#184 Posted by Godot on August 15, 2006 5:36:06 pm
DM
The question is not using king’s/queen’s language. To address someone with a filthy language and in derogatory terms does not leave any room for a debate or a dialogue. There are some, not many, Chowkies who do not know how to speak, and that opens a downward spiraling vicious cycle. I’m not happy with it if I am a participant. I disgustingly do what I have to do. These few have driven decency out. They rule. A few bad apples have destroyed everything in the barrel.
Chowk has become a garbage site. I have no respect left for it. I will never recommend this site to anyone I know. It’s a bad reflection on me. I visit here as I would walking through a red-light area glancing at half-naked women sitting in a showcase. I will not like my children, friends and family walk through that street, just as I masturbate but don’t tell anyone. There you have it. Chowk to me is a mental masturbation. I loathe doing another translation for Chowk. Chowk has brought out the worst in me, and it has made me hate myself many times. It has stripped everything that was good and decent about me. I cannot tolerate insults and personal attacks. Chowk does not want to control it, and I cannot control myself. I must retaliate. I have no respect left for Chowk for its interact policy.
Yes, I do read the New Yorker, NY Review of Books, Financial Times, among other publications. Compare to that, what is Chowk? An easy mental masturbation.
#185 Posted by dost_mittar on August 15, 2006 6:29:46 pm
godot#184:
I do agree with quite a bit of your post. Yes, a few bad apples do turn the whole barrel rotten. And we all agree that the chowk needs to apply its guidelines more rigorously and consistently. I have been here on this site for a long time and I have seen many decent people leave, especially women who feel more uncomfortable with the kind of filth sometimes thrown here.
I have mostly been spared filthy attacks, perhaps because of the well-known south asian respect for age. But when I am attacked, I simply ignore these posts and posters who generally stop their abuse in due course. But this does not always happen; romair/bulleya continues to be attacked and abused even though he has never sunk to the level of his attackers.
I do agree with quite a bit of your post. Yes, a few bad apples do turn the whole barrel rotten. And we all agree that the chowk needs to apply its guidelines more rigorously and consistently. I have been here on this site for a long time and I have seen many decent people leave, especially women who feel more uncomfortable with the kind of filth sometimes thrown here.
I have mostly been spared filthy attacks, perhaps because of the well-known south asian respect for age. But when I am attacked, I simply ignore these posts and posters who generally stop their abuse in due course. But this does not always happen; romair/bulleya continues to be attacked and abused even though he has never sunk to the level of his attackers.
#188 Posted by tahmed32 on August 15, 2006 7:25:55 pm
Chowk staff: since you took away arjun #187, for consistency, please take out godot`s #184 to which arjun responded - godot`s words about decency in that post dont add up when you see his unnecessary references in the very same post to his personal habits that i am sure are of no interest to anyone and merely add to the garbage that he has been complaining about.
i am all for implementing your guidelines - but please be consistent. and be prepared to spend a lot more time doing this (or get volunteers from among chowk posters to help you if you dont have time). but this hit and miss removal of posters is not the answer.
i am all for implementing your guidelines - but please be consistent. and be prepared to spend a lot more time doing this (or get volunteers from among chowk posters to help you if you dont have time). but this hit and miss removal of posters is not the answer.
#189 Posted by burpinder on August 15, 2006 8:51:17 pm
This has been a really fascinating thread. IMHO too many interactors take themselves (and chowk) too seriously. Personally, chowk is a nice addictive place to visit, read about the subcontinent from differing (often radically so) points of view. The fact that people tend to slip into their designated skins every now and then is part fo the fun. So is taking contrarian positions (as Godot did in his puff piece on Jews). All in all, if I am enjoying the experience here and in the rare instance make a real friend or two (mostly from across the border) , I don`t bother too much about ``editorial policy``, ``Alexa rankings``, ``interact guidelines`` etc. You guys need to chill out a bit.
#190 Posted by bulleya on August 15, 2006 9:05:37 pm
why are people so bothered about abuse on a website?.......
#191 Posted by ZahraJ on August 15, 2006 9:30:42 pm
Belated Happy Birthday!
Hope the 10th year covers the best of humor, travelogues, memoirs and political ain-bain-shain.
I think it is a personal choice to read or subscribe to a website or a perspective. No one should feel guilty or double-minded to recommend Chowk to their family and/or friends. Let the family and friends form their own views. This world is full of everything - good, bad and ugly. In today`s unpredictable world, retarded fellows are using lipsticks and moisturizing lotions to cause pain and agony to fellow human beings. Could we ever think of that? Deplorable! Should we stop using our aromatic lipsticks and deeply-hydrating and nourishing lotions?
Despite all the ups and downs, Chowk-Administrators` efforts to continue their journey with full vigor has to be appreciated.
Good Luck.
Hope the 10th year covers the best of humor, travelogues, memoirs and political ain-bain-shain.
I think it is a personal choice to read or subscribe to a website or a perspective. No one should feel guilty or double-minded to recommend Chowk to their family and/or friends. Let the family and friends form their own views. This world is full of everything - good, bad and ugly. In today`s unpredictable world, retarded fellows are using lipsticks and moisturizing lotions to cause pain and agony to fellow human beings. Could we ever think of that? Deplorable! Should we stop using our aromatic lipsticks and deeply-hydrating and nourishing lotions?
Despite all the ups and downs, Chowk-Administrators` efforts to continue their journey with full vigor has to be appreciated.
Good Luck.
#192 Posted by HP on August 15, 2006 10:14:16 pm
#188 by tahmed32
“since you took away arjun #187, for consistency, please take out godot`s #184 to which arjun responded –“
It seems that you are stepping a little too far in your new found love with khasi_m.
Godot did not abuse anyone he showed his own helplessness and used some strong words. Those words are not directed at anyone but himself. Whereas, your new favorite interactor clearly not once but twice abused Godot.
I think you just don’t understand what we are talking about here even though after romair, you are the most abused poster by this particular interactor.
I recommend you read Godot`s post more than once to understand what he is saying...
“since you took away arjun #187, for consistency, please take out godot`s #184 to which arjun responded –“
It seems that you are stepping a little too far in your new found love with khasi_m.
Godot did not abuse anyone he showed his own helplessness and used some strong words. Those words are not directed at anyone but himself. Whereas, your new favorite interactor clearly not once but twice abused Godot.
I think you just don’t understand what we are talking about here even though after romair, you are the most abused poster by this particular interactor.
I recommend you read Godot`s post more than once to understand what he is saying...
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