Psychology of Suicide ’Bombers’

Please spare poor Pheeda , the Psychilist.

Here is a short, sweet and explosive reason



Occupation Basics I - Making of Suicide Bombers

mainstream media outlets...Unlike the trash doled out to us: ``the palestinians are dying for 72 virgins.`` Give them missiles and they won`t commit suicide ...
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#15,urstruly:

``In my opinion, the holocaust of Muslims in Christendom is just a matter of time or one large terrorsit attack away.``
****The very fact that you characterize the attack as terroristic shows that you do not approve of it at some level. And you may very well be right about the finality. Before picking up military quarrel one has to weigh one`s military strength and when you find you do not have the matching strength you have to be prudent because the enemy might very well do what you should fear.****

``a nuclear attack on one or two Muslim countries is a most likely possibility as well, at this time.``
****I am afraid it may not be that farfetched to imagine your scenario.****

``those who have taken up armed resistance against western hegemony and injustice have been able to extract fear out of themselves; they are willing to lay down their lives for a just cause;``
****Need I say anymore that what I said before. Could you tell me what would be the most optimistic consequence of three tactical nuclear drops on Tehran, Damascas and Aden?
The question is not of injecting fear but assessment of the ability of executable strength. It is better to avoid the worst enemy response by using prudence.
As I see the best strategy for Islamic countries is to demand and arrange for fair elections and change to the internal regimes that can better withstand the western dominance.****

Re: # 17
Echo, nice documentary, but how do you explain the suicide bombers that kill Shias in their mosques to inflict ‘maximum’ damage – I am talking about Shia mosques in Pakistan (not in Iraq). And what Pakistani Shias have ‘occupied’ the ‘Sunni’ land? The truth of the matter is that those who encourage and brainwash these poor suckers laugh all the way to bank and back. Saudi give 25K to every suicide bomber family, Iranians hand out a similar amount, so suicide bombing is a big business and in addition to getting 72 virgin goats, it also helps feed a family.

#18

``when you find you do not have the matching strength you have to be prudent because the enemy might very well do what you should fear.**** ``

Typical Khasi strategy. Khasis Have been using it for one thousand years successfully...
Human fight back...

“From a psychological point of view a ‘suicide bomber’ symbolizes a contradiction, vulnerable yet strong at the same time. He wants to remain anonymous yet remembered in the history of his community as a hero. He wants to die and yet also live forever. He is the most rational being in planning his attack and yet acts in the most irrational way by being destructive to himself and others.”

Dr. Sahib,
This does not appear to be psychological analyses. You are describing every soldier paid or unpaid who goes to war knowing that he may not return alive.

Per your analysis, every soldier who aspires to die in a war wishes to commit suicide.

How would you differentiate in a state paid soldier and a volunteer soldier based on your analysis, considering that they both know they will most likely die in a war?

Re: # 21

HP Sahib, do you know of any soldier that will willingly shove a grenade up his anus and blow himself up willingly? Professional soldiers are not trained to kill themselves, but the enemy.

Re: # 18

Personally, I do not believe in liberal democracy and those Muslims who are educated enough ( i.e. have basic knowledge in Islamic jurisprudence, system of governance, economics, islamic system of egalitarianism and social justice) do not believe that liberal democracy will ever work in any Muslim land). The only workable political system that will work in Muslim lands is Nizam-e-Mustafa (law of Prophet). This is common sense. In every country of the world the system of values becomes its laws. The source of Muslim values is Islam, Qura`n, oand Holy Prophet (pbuh). If we adopt liberal democracy it means that we think our values, our God, and his Prophet (pbuh) to be inferior to our logical abilities. The underlying assumption in liberal democracy is that God is not good enough to solve social problems of people. This idea is insane. Had Nizam-e-Mustafa been a new thing, one could have doubts about it but when it had been in practice for 14 centuries successfully, then doubting it is pure insanity and irrationality.

This brings our i.e. Muslim objectives in direct contradiction with that of West (if we give them the benefit of doubt and assume that they are serious about democracy in Muslim world). Having said that, the realtionship between West and Muslim world can only be of two types:

1. Egalitarian, just and equitable; based on the prnciples of tolerance and mutual co-existance or

2. Master-slave relationship.

#2 is the current status quo. Muslims are trying to change that.

``It is so tragic that even in the 21st.century rather than being civilized and enlightened, living with peace, harmony and love and realizing that all of us are members of the same family, the human family, we are still considering members of other religions, sects, tribes, countries and communities as our enemies and then demonizing them to such an extent that we are willing to take their lives with no stab of conscience whether as army officers in the West or as ‘suicide bombers’ in the East. We still do not realize that we are all children of Mother Earth, our enemies are our distant cousins and all human beings are equally sacred. How sad? ``

There is nothing in the conclusion that could be called psychological analysis. I am afraid you are making political statement and covring it up by using your professional qualification. That is really not honest.

The suicide bomber has a psychological profile but it does not match with what you are describing...
I think you don’t understand the phenomenon at all....psychological or political....

#22 by Kulharee
``do you know of any soldier that will willingly shove a grenade up his anus and blow himself up willingly?``

Yes! you just did that....If you are here to argue come back with some arguement not with your anus...

Re: # 20

hp:

``Typical Khasi strategy. Khasis Have been using it for one thousand years successfully...
Human fight back... ``

I wonder why the Baasis have climbed down from ``thousand year war`` to begging for kashmir then????

Re: # 25
There we go again HP Sahib, what a Khasi attitude, when you have nothing to say, you come back with smart alec bulcrap to try to impress yourself.

I was trying to make a distinction between a trained professional soldier and your wahabi dudes with their heads up their anus looking for 72 goats. But it flew over your little khasi brains. It’s OK.

Sohail,

Good piece.

Would you say that a new set of ethics is evolving in the periphery of the Muslim world? This set of ethics is not only challenging Western ethics, but is also challenging the center of Muslim dogma, jurispudence and polity? The suicide bomber should also be understood from the perspective of this new ethic.

I have been reading a bit on the present effort (jehad) against what is perceived to be `evil`. The `evil` is defined in very modern and contemporary terms by people like OBL - and more coherently than his counterpart G.W.Bush. More emphasis is put on economic concepts like imperialism and exploitation than on spiritualism per se - though the shia concept of `martyrs` is much emphasized. Furthermore, and I am not at all an expert on this, it seems that much more emphasis is put on the constitutional aspect of the Koran than on its spiritual aspect. Thus, this new ethic - like Christian protestants in the past - is also developing a well defined political ideology. This ideology, with its myths, martyrs and the Prophet`s cape (remember Mullah Omar) is romantic (unlike strict Wahabbism). Members of this new movement are spatially spread out and the leaders are in hiding. Thus, there is an emphasis on each member to individually develop and inculcate this new ethic directly from the widely available Koran. Romance, emphasis on individualism, and a well defined Constitution (the Koran) can provide enough ammunation against a well defined `evil` system. Christian protestants, like the Calvinists, did the same after the Reformation. Some of them came to the US and implemented the romantic `American values` and the Constitution. Guess what - Americans are still willing to die and KILL to protect `American Values` and the Constitution. Same goes for the suicide bomber.

The issue is not: why is a suicide bomber willing to die. The issue is: how is he going to change his tactics in the future such that he can WIN without blowing himself up.

I am interested because I do not want him to win .... at least not with his present set of puritanical ethics.

kulharee # 11 ``The only thing common, other than a deep rooted mental illness, among all the bombers is that they are thoroughly brainwashed by Mullahs, as you will never see a Mullah blow himself up, he would happily hide in the caves or in presidential palaces in Damascus``

I am sure when you say ``all bombers``, you include the ones who bomb from the helicopters, F-16s, and via tomahawk missiles aboard air craft carriers. These ``men and women in uniform`` are also thoroughly brainwashed by their presidents and prime ministers. You will never see Mr. Bush, for instance, pilot a fighter jet over iraq to bomb insurgents. In fact, when he was given a chance to serve his country back in vietnam days, he actively sought to dodge draft. He would rather be in his ranch than suffering with his troops, thousands of whom have perished or gotten cripplingly injured. These troops were indoctrinated that they were bombing people into learning democracy. How funny, if not sad!

So if you are fair, at least you would put mullah and Bush in the same category. The only debate that is left is the method that their respective brainwashed armies have at their disposal. And as Urstruly has adequately elaborated, you cant dictate what weapons your enemy can choose. If you are going to ask hezbollah to not use suicide bombers, then perhaps hezbollah have a right to ask Israel to not use air power.

#27 by Kulharee

What you wrote was pure non sense. Professional soldiers are trained to kill. Obviously you dont know this and thats why you got the answer that you so richly deserved...

Re: # 20
[...Human fight back...]

Yep - humans fought back and survived.... but pakis just rolled over and converted to the bedouin`s barbaric cult... so much so that - today we have a 150 million of them who pretend to be more arab then arabs themselves... :)))

Re: # 21:
``Per your analysis, every soldier who aspires to die in a war wishes to commit suicide. ``

Charateristic and deliberate obfuscation!

A soldier fights for a cause against other opposing soldiers preserving himself at every instant. No doubt he knows he can be had.

Suicider sneaks around and knows full well that he is out to kill not the active enemy but a hapless bystander. A suicider is sick and deluded, a soldier is an exemplary fighter.

I thought every one knew it. But let HP also know it!