Postmortem of Israeli-Hezbollah War – What Next?

Re:sattar2#154

[...Do us all a favor and tell us what bothers you about Ahmadis?....]

Instead of begging desperately like this with these punjoo islamic fundos, qadianis/ahmedis should throw in their lot with India. In India, you can practice your faith freely, call yourself muslim if it catches your fancy, live a life of freedom and pursue your way of life. Given that qadianis are well educated and a well-off community, India would welcome them and treat them with respect. Heck, any community that can produce a Nobel Laureate like Prof. Salam, will get my unconditional support.

Re: # 143 by masadi on August 27, 2006 10:29pm PT

Dear masadi:

Are you just jealous, since you are unable to make a distinction between your religious belief and your intellect. As I have consistently pointed out to you, a religious believer (am I wrong in assuming that!) like yourself can never been an authentic intellectual. You know that this thought is right. Almost all of the yester year intellectuals that I am familiar with had nothing to do with their religion.

{Since when did behram become the ``lord`` of this domain.}

No, I am not the ``lord`` of any domain. But, I would continue to use the power of my intellect to confuse the heck out of a religious believer like yourself. It is quite apparent that you have become totally confused, and have no place to take refuge.

{The guy is a walking talking contradiction.} And that is the strength of an intellect. Is it not?

{He complains when HP tells him the obvious, yet he is extremely liberal in hitting others ``below the belt`` so to speak with contrived bs. } O! Now you want to bring a alibi into the fake argument that you have created. Why? Are you so insecure to handle your little left intellect by yourself?

{He complains about the treatment of minorities in Pakistan, yet belongs to a minority group that is financially much more secure than the average Pakistani.}

Yes, and that is all the more reason that I can empathise with the unscrupulous ways the majorities have been dealing with minorities, in Pakistan.

{ He has no numbers similar to the ones that are available in the US to show the pathetic existence of minorities here with life expectency being 8 to 10 years less for African Americans and mortality at younger ages being much higher. }

Now, what has that got to do with the conversation about Starbucks? You are just showing your basic indecency when you are mixing a conversation about pigs with sheep.

Did that make any sense to you at all? It is not supposed to. That is exactly how you present your stupid empirical whatever.

{Often he talks about how he derided the Muslims from that area that try to be friendly with him, yet he talks about the condition of minorities in Pakistan.} Uh! Majorities must always, by definition, be derided. Hatred is almost universally promoted by those in the majority, does it not? If not, then where is the argument?

{This guy is a pathetic hypocrite. } Being a muslim and being a majority, you have an ingrained right to humiliate and ridicule minorities amongst you. When was the last time, a muslim society was considered right for minorities?

Well, masadi, that was too long.

{He calls for there being mutual exclusivity between intellect and belief, yet is oblivious to the fact that most intellectuals of days gone by had ``beliefs`` and what about the belief that says that using the the intellect is the surest way to the truth? }

You know very well what I mean. An indoctrinated religious belief can never be replaced by the worldly intellect. Being a religious muslim, you can never be authentic with your intellect. So stop the charade and acknowledge one or the other.

{Sorry, couldn`t hold this back seeing how he is strutting around here parading as a paragon of tolerance and enlightenment.}

And this is where your inadequacies are shown.

Respectfully submitted,