Postmortem of Israeli-Hezbollah War – What Next?

#16 Nothing will happen next. Iran will do what it wants to do irrespective. In the middle east youwill have the sunni bomb of pakistan (afterall indirect funding was made available from the saudis) and the shia bomb of iran. For the foreseeable future the shias and sunni`s will perform the familiar playground game of seeing whose is bigger, the west will watch from the sidelines, till such time as they see fit. Its a familiar game, it was played out in the first quarter of the last century when after a wait of some 100 years they dismembered the Caliphate and the turks.

Israel, will continue as before. They have given the Hizb a propaganda victory, they have a buffer zone - and unless the hizb get new missiles, Israel is safe. The Hizb and the palestinians can whoop with joy at their pyrrhic victory, whileIsrael continues.

The future was there between 1910 and 1920. Its sort of like Back to the future for the Arabs and the middle east.

#17 by queen_cut&paste

and unless the hizb get new missiles, Israel is safe.

And of-course Hazb will ask for Israel`s permission respectfully before getting new missiles, which Israel will decline to give.

Piss off.

No, the Hizb need not ask Israel`s permission for new missiles. Its dependent on Iran giving them these. These would have to have longer range then the littlef_arts they gave earlier. Now Iran has to decided how to do it and who far it wants to escalate the game.

As I said the west will watch from the sidelines as the play unfolds. Israel has what it wanted in the short to medium term.

Now Zeemax - why dont you go to the pissouer yourself. You need it badly...soemthing has caused you to be a diarrheic!

Re: # 18
Will someone please ban the living daylights of this fundementally Male Chauvinist pig!

How come this blathering and blithering nimcumpoop can use such language and get away with it?

He should be shown the door for such foul language!

#19/20

Ok.

Now bugger off.

.......What next?


Ibtida-i Ishque hai, rotaa hai kyaa
aagay aagay daikhiyay, hotaa hai kyyaa

tr:
It is just the beginning of the ``lovefest``; watch out for what lies ahead.

Do`nt miss this great event, by Mujahid George Galloway


P.S: The hindu angst is understandable; the 1000 years itch is harking again for the lovefest.

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Galloway to host radio show from Lebanon

MAVERICK politician George Galloway is set to broadcast live from Lebanon on Edinburgh radio station Talk 107 this weekend.

The MP and star of Celebrity Big Brother will be hosting the radio phone-in from Beirut on Saturday and Sunday night from 8pm.

Mr Galloway said: ``I`m the first British political figure to visit the wreckage of Beirut and the south of Lebanon, seeing for myself the enormous toll taken by the aerial bombardment.

``I`ll be reporting to Talk 107 listeners on just what I`ve found here and inviting guests from across the spectrum in Lebanon, who know what they`re talking about.

``I`ll be taking calls from the listeners across Edinburgh, Fife and the Lothians as normal during this two-day special on the conflict in the Middle East, its fundamental causes and a way forward for peace.``

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Gill Sahib,
Another excellent presentation of the facts. I agree with you that both the Arabs and the Jews need to recognize some harsh and even pleasant realities - it all depends on how you look at things. :)

Arabs should welcome their persecuted ``cousins`` back to their ancestral home - this is what should have taken place in the days following WWI. Unfortunately, the British and some Arab Christians wanted to play the ``divide and prevail`` game.

Jews should recognize that punishing Arabs for the cruelty and oppression of the German, Russian, Spanish, and Polish Christians does not make sense. Iran has taught both Israel and the Americans a valuable lesson. Now it should join Turkey in bringing peace to the neighborhood. Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul was in Syria recently to help start negotiations between Israel and her ``forgotten`` neighbor over the Golan Heights. Soodi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan should try to help the Lebanese materially, but must concentrate on their own countries to bring about true democracy and not the facade that they think is fooling everyone.

Re: # 21tch...something itching your backside...oh I forgot you are missing your madrassa treatment. not to worry, in a few days time, if you carry on like this, you will get the required treatement as an abettor of terrorism and terrorists.

Please keep your bed/wet dreams to yourself......

#24

You don`t know head or tail of the conflict. Go to UP and rub something.

Shoo ...

#25 and you are the bleeding expert on this. What is your local standing on this dispute?

You are but an inconsequential little pip squeak - and nimcumpoops like you make ideal terrorists - they are little Walter Mitty`s?

Manhoos chera ......

Gill Sahib,
Israel should recognize a pattern here:

1980s - Hezbollah using suicide bombs and small arms to combat Israeli occupation

1990s - Hezbollah using rockets and ambushes to combat Israeli occupation

2000 - Israel abandons so-called buffer zone due to mounting casualties against Hezbollah

2006 - Hezbollah using short-range rockets, anti-tank missiles, night-vision goggles, shore to ship missiles, and drones against Israelis - resulting in Israeli insistence on cease-fire.

200? - Hezbollah may use longer-range guided missiles, anti-aircraft SAMs, jet-powered individual suicide bombers riding on nukes, and CAT (Computer-Aided Terrorism) technology to remove Israeli occupation from ALL Arab lands.

Salim_Chauhan: #27

Thanks for your feedback.

Some of the inter-actors are still obsessed by proclaiming victory for the side they are hooting for. It all depends how they perceive what victory meant in the last Hezbollah-Israeli engagement. Israel was victorious in the sense that it inflicted greater damage on Lebanon (not necessarily Hezbollah) than what Hezbollah did to Israel. Hezbollah was victorious in the sense that it did not cave in to the Israeli formidable war machine.

It was Israel’s loss because it failed to achieve the objectives for which it invaded Lebanon in the first place. And nobody knows it better than Israel.

The important thing is what the combatants have learnt (if they’ve learnt at all) from their bloody and inhumanly devastating engagement. The obvious lesson for them is that they cannot resolve the basic issue by force. They are imperiling the world peace by doing so.

It was also a trial run for the U.S. The neo-cons had believed that if Israel succeeded in demolishing Hezbollah’s will and infrastructure, U.S. could do a similar thing in Iran. The debacle has underlined the fact that a similar invasion will most probably fail in Iran too.

Recently, Richard Armitage (President Bush’s Deputy Secretary of State, 2000-04) was quoted as, “If the dominant military force in the region – the Israel Defense Force – couldn’t pacify a country like Lebanon, with a population of four million, you should think carefully about taking that template to Iran, with a strategic depth and population of seventy millions.”

I will repeat here what I wrote at the end of the article because the solution of the problem seems to be lurking there.

“Both sides have tested each other over a period of several decades and seen that the issue cannot be resolved by fighting. It is time to give peace a chance.

According to Seymour Hersh, “The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result,” (Watching Lebanon, The New Yorker, August 21, 2006). What the Israel and Arab states have been doing so far is insane according to Hersh’s definition. They should realize their blunder now.”

Mohammad Gill

Gill Sahib,
In my post #23, I have tried to advise both Jews and Arabs about the sensible thiing to do. Your suggestion and my views have much in common.
Thanks,

Please watch this excellent Documentary. None of the producers, directors or contributors are muslim. Some are even Jews working in Israeli Universities.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eCL6WdnuNp4

Salim_Chauhan

Thanks for your post # 23 also. With regards,

Mohammad Gill

Re: # 28

A very good assessment of the whole affair. What is interesting is that everyone claims victory....the clear victors in this war were the people behind the scenes. In case Iran is definitely one as you indirectly indicated in your post #28.

But the pacifist assessment and athe resultant conclusions donot lead anywhere. There will be another war - futile or otherwise. And then another till one of them bows down or is cowed down. That is what happened to Germany and japan. Both bowed down and were cowed down t a superior power. That when both sides can agree to the pacifist agrument of the futility of war. Would agree with this?