Ahmer Muzammil August 24, 2006
#113 Posted by MantoLives on August 29, 2006 5:25:05 am
To continue that last thought...... ``that is ultimately god`s decision and Ahmadis are not too bothered by any man made redefinition... the priority should be to ensure religious freedom.. it is said that Ahmadis did not fight the decision because they felt that once excommunicated, they would be left alone by the Sunni majority which will turn on itself``
#114 Posted by adamkhan on August 29, 2006 12:48:36 pm
Dear Mantolives,
My friend, regurgitation begets regurgitation. The thing is that I don’t share your optimism about the destiny of Pakistan, of it being a secular nation. My belief is that this country because of its overwhelmingly muslim population and its lack of a common ethnicity, has no option but to lean towards the Islamic. The current state of affairs, e.g. the law against Ahmedis, the hudood ordinance, the name Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the state religion etc all prove the point that Sharia is the destiny of this nation.
You counter me by first quoting Mr. Jinnah and his vision, and then you say that the failure of Jinnah’s Pakistan to emerge is because of the Mullah, the Nationalist and the establishment whom you consider the enemies of Pakistan. To further elaborate your point you give the example of Nizam-a-Mustapha and Wali Khan’s support of Zia and the Mullah, because you think that these forces want to bring Pakistan down. It is to counter your argument that I state the exploits of Bhutto (which are against Jinnahs vision as well), whom you consider a force of patriotism.
Pakistan is an evolving nation state which is home not just to Muslims but many Non-Muslims as well... which is why Jinnah`s 11th August 1947 speech should be the only basis for citizenship and every citizen of Pakistan should be a citizen of Pakistan regardless....
On 11th august 1947, Mr. Jinnah went back on his two nation theory argument. You state that speech of his as if the “soon to be” Pakistani Muslim embraced his words in every respect. The test for the 11th August speech of Jinnah was the post-partition chaos. Yes Muslims were slaughtered in Indian Punjab, but the Pakistani muslims of 1947 took it all out on the Pakistani Sikhs as well as the Pakistani Hindus. Jinnah was unable to rescue the Hindus and Sikhs of Pakistan, while those who rallied around him, those who helped in the creation of Pakistan refused to obey him, it was as if he was of no use anymore. The irony is that apart from Mr. Jinnah (on his own) the Khudai Khidmatgaars were I guess the only organization who did what Mr. Jinnah expected all Pakistanis to do. Pakistanis had made it clear that if you are a non-muslim then you are on the wrong side of the border. The treatment doled out to the Christian and Hindu communities within Pakistan is a continuation of that attitude. So is the demotion of Ahmedis.
Then you accept that their ideas, ideology and their politics has nothing to do with the creation of Pakistan good or bad? This is all I am saying... Pakistan`s creation or any distortion thereof cannot be claimed for any subsequent actions good or bad...
It is the creation of Pakistan that made the Sunnis a majority in Pakistan. This overwhelmingly Muslim majority has set the parameters of discourse within the political framework of this country. Where “shadi ka khana” is discussed ad nauseum in the assembly and things like the repulsive blasphemy laws are taken as a norm. This is where I stand, and I base my belief on the history of Pakistan. I sincerely hope that you are right in the long run but the way I see things right now I don’t see that happening.
5. The reason why Ahmadis don`t complain per se .. is because at the very highest level you will always find a community member politically strong and calling the shots. The strongest civilian in Pakistan today is Tariq Aziz, the principal political secretary of Musharraf...
All you have to do is to replace the word Ahmedi with Qadiani and then it would be the end of this discussion. You are making the Ahmedi sound like the Zionist of Pakistan. If Ahmedis were “calling the shots” then at least the media would have been sympathetic to their cause. At least people would have been convinced to let go of the word Qadiani which I understand is a slur.
Here are the shots that the Ahmedis are calling, and I mean literally.
http://thepersecution.org/facts/martyred.html
http://thepersecution.org/archive/pl_xsum.html
And another FYI- Every Ahmadi I know of says Assalamualaikum ... the reason why it is not an issue is because this ridiculous piece of legislation (WHICH has to do with Wali Khan`s benefactor Zia and not Bhutto per se) is hardly implemented
Well how about going to a thaana and saying “Asalam o Alaikum Bhai jan, I am an Ahmedi.”? The SHO will be implicated of negligence if he did not nab you there and then. Whether Mr. Tariq Aziz calls the SHO up or not is another thing, but you would have broken the law by merely “greeting” someone.
Kya baat kur rahay ho Manto Bhai? One Tariq Aziz or a few successful businessmen won’t make a difference.
http://thepersecution.org/news/2006/dtp0319.html
{{ LAHORE: The Imam of the Ahmadiyya community, Mirza Masroor Ahmad and four workers at a monthly Ahmadi magazine for women have been charged with blasphemy for referring to quotes from the Quran and Hadith, Daily Times has learnt. }}
I find this attitude of ANP wallahs (recall Wali Khan`s derogatory reference) rather funny because generally all of them falsely believe that Ahmadis/Qadianis are western agents but then turn around and act all self righteous.
Yaar why this malice? You find it THAT hard to believe that some one who is not an Ahmedi might have a soft corner for them? If so then being a Sunni shouldn’t you too start hating them? I am just saying what I feel is right.
The ANP does not favor Ahmadis in anyway, it’s the same as the PPP and every other political party in this regard. I have told you earlier I do not belong to the ANP.
Regards.
My friend, regurgitation begets regurgitation. The thing is that I don’t share your optimism about the destiny of Pakistan, of it being a secular nation. My belief is that this country because of its overwhelmingly muslim population and its lack of a common ethnicity, has no option but to lean towards the Islamic. The current state of affairs, e.g. the law against Ahmedis, the hudood ordinance, the name Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the state religion etc all prove the point that Sharia is the destiny of this nation.
You counter me by first quoting Mr. Jinnah and his vision, and then you say that the failure of Jinnah’s Pakistan to emerge is because of the Mullah, the Nationalist and the establishment whom you consider the enemies of Pakistan. To further elaborate your point you give the example of Nizam-a-Mustapha and Wali Khan’s support of Zia and the Mullah, because you think that these forces want to bring Pakistan down. It is to counter your argument that I state the exploits of Bhutto (which are against Jinnahs vision as well), whom you consider a force of patriotism.
Pakistan is an evolving nation state which is home not just to Muslims but many Non-Muslims as well... which is why Jinnah`s 11th August 1947 speech should be the only basis for citizenship and every citizen of Pakistan should be a citizen of Pakistan regardless....
On 11th august 1947, Mr. Jinnah went back on his two nation theory argument. You state that speech of his as if the “soon to be” Pakistani Muslim embraced his words in every respect. The test for the 11th August speech of Jinnah was the post-partition chaos. Yes Muslims were slaughtered in Indian Punjab, but the Pakistani muslims of 1947 took it all out on the Pakistani Sikhs as well as the Pakistani Hindus. Jinnah was unable to rescue the Hindus and Sikhs of Pakistan, while those who rallied around him, those who helped in the creation of Pakistan refused to obey him, it was as if he was of no use anymore. The irony is that apart from Mr. Jinnah (on his own) the Khudai Khidmatgaars were I guess the only organization who did what Mr. Jinnah expected all Pakistanis to do. Pakistanis had made it clear that if you are a non-muslim then you are on the wrong side of the border. The treatment doled out to the Christian and Hindu communities within Pakistan is a continuation of that attitude. So is the demotion of Ahmedis.
Then you accept that their ideas, ideology and their politics has nothing to do with the creation of Pakistan good or bad? This is all I am saying... Pakistan`s creation or any distortion thereof cannot be claimed for any subsequent actions good or bad...
It is the creation of Pakistan that made the Sunnis a majority in Pakistan. This overwhelmingly Muslim majority has set the parameters of discourse within the political framework of this country. Where “shadi ka khana” is discussed ad nauseum in the assembly and things like the repulsive blasphemy laws are taken as a norm. This is where I stand, and I base my belief on the history of Pakistan. I sincerely hope that you are right in the long run but the way I see things right now I don’t see that happening.
5. The reason why Ahmadis don`t complain per se .. is because at the very highest level you will always find a community member politically strong and calling the shots. The strongest civilian in Pakistan today is Tariq Aziz, the principal political secretary of Musharraf...
All you have to do is to replace the word Ahmedi with Qadiani and then it would be the end of this discussion. You are making the Ahmedi sound like the Zionist of Pakistan. If Ahmedis were “calling the shots” then at least the media would have been sympathetic to their cause. At least people would have been convinced to let go of the word Qadiani which I understand is a slur.
Here are the shots that the Ahmedis are calling, and I mean literally.
http://thepersecution.org/facts/martyred.html
http://thepersecution.org/archive/pl_xsum.html
And another FYI- Every Ahmadi I know of says Assalamualaikum ... the reason why it is not an issue is because this ridiculous piece of legislation (WHICH has to do with Wali Khan`s benefactor Zia and not Bhutto per se) is hardly implemented
Well how about going to a thaana and saying “Asalam o Alaikum Bhai jan, I am an Ahmedi.”? The SHO will be implicated of negligence if he did not nab you there and then. Whether Mr. Tariq Aziz calls the SHO up or not is another thing, but you would have broken the law by merely “greeting” someone.
Kya baat kur rahay ho Manto Bhai? One Tariq Aziz or a few successful businessmen won’t make a difference.
http://thepersecution.org/news/2006/dtp0319.html
{{ LAHORE: The Imam of the Ahmadiyya community, Mirza Masroor Ahmad and four workers at a monthly Ahmadi magazine for women have been charged with blasphemy for referring to quotes from the Quran and Hadith, Daily Times has learnt. }}
I find this attitude of ANP wallahs (recall Wali Khan`s derogatory reference) rather funny because generally all of them falsely believe that Ahmadis/Qadianis are western agents but then turn around and act all self righteous.
Yaar why this malice? You find it THAT hard to believe that some one who is not an Ahmedi might have a soft corner for them? If so then being a Sunni shouldn’t you too start hating them? I am just saying what I feel is right.
The ANP does not favor Ahmadis in anyway, it’s the same as the PPP and every other political party in this regard. I have told you earlier I do not belong to the ANP.
Regards.
#115 Posted by nature_lover on August 29, 2006 2:37:18 pm
I agree with the ``realistic`` wisdom and ground realities shown by Adamkhan.
We cannot deceive ourselves by flowery words and dreams only as future of Pakistan is so obviously lying in front of us.
No body wants ``rule of law`` in Pakisan, every body wants to grab and complete control and complete hegemony over uneducated and simple people of Pakistan.
Uneducated simple people of this country are like an orphan girl,...Ahmadis want complete hegemony, Mullahs want complete hegemony, Army wants complete hegemony , feudals want complete hegemony, civil babus want complete hegemony,..but no body wants humble ways or ways of truth or rule of law.
Pakistan is a society of bullies ,jugglers, acrobats and ``patari-men`` and every body has to sell different ``chooran`` , ``phaki`` , a potent herbel mixture and we never know which kind of snake or lizard, these clever ``patari-men`` will take out from their boxes to amuse retarded and uneducated public of this unfortunate land.
Britishers are the one who have to be made responsible for all this drama, and creating all this show of ``madarees`` or acrobats.
System in pakistan has become rotten, corrupt and hypocrit to the core.
When I taked to a filthy rich chief conservator of forests of NWFP about rules and his duties and responsibilities, then he wanted to act superior and told me that as he listens to ``biyans`` of ``tablighi people`` hence instead of worrying too much about this ``dunyia`` I should also join them.
The same reply I heard from a ultra rich Superintending Engineer of Hazara works department, and he told me that he saw all the filth of USA society, when he spent 10 continous years in USA, then he came back , got his governemnt job and seniority back , and now he was retiring with full perks and pensions and free plots etc.Alhamdolillah...``rind kay rind rahay aur hath say janaat na gahi``.
He belonged to eternal rulers of Pakistan.
It is interesting to note that I heard this kind of response from almost majority of ruling people and officers of Pakistan, that their sons were driving government owned landcruisers and they were flirting with female servants of their dad`s palaces, but on the surface ultra rich but ``pious`` dads had a mask of ``pakistaniat`` and ``islamiat`` to show off.
Such officers also told me that I should worry more about my ``akhrat`` and my dooms day rather than heritage buildings or mature old trees of ferangi raj.
So I tell you brothers and sisters that we are completely trapped.
To get raped and to get humiliated is our destiny, and right now I don`t see any sign of enough self esteem or enough self respect in masses of Pakistan to throw away all this drama, and to establish rule of law.
Hanooz deli dur ast, but keep on trying to solve this puzzle of acrobats.
One last thing I want to say that each one of us, who can think and who has sense of fairness and justice,.... please stay safe,.... journey is long and we have to adopt safe strategies,..... and we have to avoid open encounters with bullies and beasts.
Thank you.
We cannot deceive ourselves by flowery words and dreams only as future of Pakistan is so obviously lying in front of us.
No body wants ``rule of law`` in Pakisan, every body wants to grab and complete control and complete hegemony over uneducated and simple people of Pakistan.
Uneducated simple people of this country are like an orphan girl,...Ahmadis want complete hegemony, Mullahs want complete hegemony, Army wants complete hegemony , feudals want complete hegemony, civil babus want complete hegemony,..but no body wants humble ways or ways of truth or rule of law.
Pakistan is a society of bullies ,jugglers, acrobats and ``patari-men`` and every body has to sell different ``chooran`` , ``phaki`` , a potent herbel mixture and we never know which kind of snake or lizard, these clever ``patari-men`` will take out from their boxes to amuse retarded and uneducated public of this unfortunate land.
Britishers are the one who have to be made responsible for all this drama, and creating all this show of ``madarees`` or acrobats.
System in pakistan has become rotten, corrupt and hypocrit to the core.
When I taked to a filthy rich chief conservator of forests of NWFP about rules and his duties and responsibilities, then he wanted to act superior and told me that as he listens to ``biyans`` of ``tablighi people`` hence instead of worrying too much about this ``dunyia`` I should also join them.
The same reply I heard from a ultra rich Superintending Engineer of Hazara works department, and he told me that he saw all the filth of USA society, when he spent 10 continous years in USA, then he came back , got his governemnt job and seniority back , and now he was retiring with full perks and pensions and free plots etc.Alhamdolillah...``rind kay rind rahay aur hath say janaat na gahi``.
He belonged to eternal rulers of Pakistan.
It is interesting to note that I heard this kind of response from almost majority of ruling people and officers of Pakistan, that their sons were driving government owned landcruisers and they were flirting with female servants of their dad`s palaces, but on the surface ultra rich but ``pious`` dads had a mask of ``pakistaniat`` and ``islamiat`` to show off.
Such officers also told me that I should worry more about my ``akhrat`` and my dooms day rather than heritage buildings or mature old trees of ferangi raj.
So I tell you brothers and sisters that we are completely trapped.
To get raped and to get humiliated is our destiny, and right now I don`t see any sign of enough self esteem or enough self respect in masses of Pakistan to throw away all this drama, and to establish rule of law.
Hanooz deli dur ast, but keep on trying to solve this puzzle of acrobats.
One last thing I want to say that each one of us, who can think and who has sense of fairness and justice,.... please stay safe,.... journey is long and we have to adopt safe strategies,..... and we have to avoid open encounters with bullies and beasts.
Thank you.
#116 Posted by MantoLives on August 29, 2006 11:00:25 pm
Dear Adam Khan,
Ok some more clarifications once more...
I don`t for a minute consider Zulfikar Ali Bhutto as an infallible creature. I accept that his ex-communication and other exploits were against Jinnah`s vision... and coming that he considered himself an heir of Jinnah... his exploits were criminal unlike those of Wali Khan (whose support of Zia I have expected was natural given his persecution). I am also willing to accept Khudai Khidmatgars were the only organised body of Pakistanis who in 1947 actually did what Jinnah was asking his followers to do ... which is why - may I remind you- Jinnah had donated to the Khudai Khidmatgars and had met Ghaffar Khan in Karachi to reconcile... I am also willing to accept that the real reason both men could not agree was Sardar Abdul Qayyum Khan... none of this changes the mainbody of my argument.
As for your comments about Ahmadis.. in real life the situation is quite different- atleast where I live. While this discriminatory legislation (90% of which is based on Zia`s Martial Law regime) is the direct result of military intervention. This is my point.
I am not for a minute optimistic that overnight Pakistan will change into a secular nation... but I don`t share your view that the nation is heading towards sharia. Common ethnicity can be conjured by common experience and national symbols. For example isn`t Pakistani cricket team cheered in all four provinces? For Islam? or being Pakistani? Is you suggestion that a Muslim majority country with nothing to bind them but Islam will necessarily head towards sharia exclusive to Islam... because countries bound by no ethnicity but a majority faith have in the past headed towards secular democracy on the basis of democracy and constitution.
My submission is that if democracy is allowed to take its course - without military intervention (and you have to admit that most of Pakistan`s ``ghuttan`` comes from Zia`s regime)... maybe there will be some Islamic legislation at first... but ultimately constitutional democracy has its own logic... and that logic is inherently secular and will ultimately make Pakistani identity a secular identity, state religion, name etc notwithstanding.
On another note... if you live in Pakistan I would be very happy to receive your email at yasser.hamdani@gmail.com ... and may be we can understand each other better in a different place at a different time... and you can tell me why Ghaffar Khan was a great man and I`ll tell you why the creation of Pakistan was a good idea...
-YLH
Ok some more clarifications once more...
I don`t for a minute consider Zulfikar Ali Bhutto as an infallible creature. I accept that his ex-communication and other exploits were against Jinnah`s vision... and coming that he considered himself an heir of Jinnah... his exploits were criminal unlike those of Wali Khan (whose support of Zia I have expected was natural given his persecution). I am also willing to accept Khudai Khidmatgars were the only organised body of Pakistanis who in 1947 actually did what Jinnah was asking his followers to do ... which is why - may I remind you- Jinnah had donated to the Khudai Khidmatgars and had met Ghaffar Khan in Karachi to reconcile... I am also willing to accept that the real reason both men could not agree was Sardar Abdul Qayyum Khan... none of this changes the mainbody of my argument.
As for your comments about Ahmadis.. in real life the situation is quite different- atleast where I live. While this discriminatory legislation (90% of which is based on Zia`s Martial Law regime) is the direct result of military intervention. This is my point.
I am not for a minute optimistic that overnight Pakistan will change into a secular nation... but I don`t share your view that the nation is heading towards sharia. Common ethnicity can be conjured by common experience and national symbols. For example isn`t Pakistani cricket team cheered in all four provinces? For Islam? or being Pakistani? Is you suggestion that a Muslim majority country with nothing to bind them but Islam will necessarily head towards sharia exclusive to Islam... because countries bound by no ethnicity but a majority faith have in the past headed towards secular democracy on the basis of democracy and constitution.
My submission is that if democracy is allowed to take its course - without military intervention (and you have to admit that most of Pakistan`s ``ghuttan`` comes from Zia`s regime)... maybe there will be some Islamic legislation at first... but ultimately constitutional democracy has its own logic... and that logic is inherently secular and will ultimately make Pakistani identity a secular identity, state religion, name etc notwithstanding.
On another note... if you live in Pakistan I would be very happy to receive your email at yasser.hamdani@gmail.com ... and may be we can understand each other better in a different place at a different time... and you can tell me why Ghaffar Khan was a great man and I`ll tell you why the creation of Pakistan was a good idea...
-YLH
#117 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 30, 2006 9:01:26 am
Mantolives #92 {``It is clear that those people, Jamaat-e-Islami who demanded the ex-communication of Ahmadis were the same people who opposed the creation of Pakistan, called Jinnah Kafir-e-Azam and sided with Gandhi... As for Bhutto- not that I would defend someone like him... but he was, naively, waiting for a 2/3rds Majority ``}
Manto Bhai,
Regardless of the well-established loyalty and contributions of the Ahmedis, their expulsion by any party in Pakistan, justifies the expulsion of the party demanding that expulsion. When the Jamaat-e-Islami resorts to such childish yet pernicious games, it is displaying its own insecurity, and more importantly, its obvious insincerity. ZAB was just an opportunist who had no principles other than his own greatness. That is another reason why I shudder at the prospect of a return to ``democracy.`` Our luck with such ``democracy`` has been even worse than our sad experience with military dictatorships.
Manto Bhai,
Regardless of the well-established loyalty and contributions of the Ahmedis, their expulsion by any party in Pakistan, justifies the expulsion of the party demanding that expulsion. When the Jamaat-e-Islami resorts to such childish yet pernicious games, it is displaying its own insecurity, and more importantly, its obvious insincerity. ZAB was just an opportunist who had no principles other than his own greatness. That is another reason why I shudder at the prospect of a return to ``democracy.`` Our luck with such ``democracy`` has been even worse than our sad experience with military dictatorships.
#118 Posted by adamkhan on August 30, 2006 11:29:46 am
On another note... if you live in Pakistan I would be very happy to receive your email at yasser.hamdani@gmail.com ... and may be we can understand each other better in a different place at a different time... and you can tell me why Ghaffar Khan was a great man and I`ll tell you why the creation of Pakistan was a good idea...
Agreed. Lets hope that thirty years from now you would be the one saying ``I told you so.``
regards.
Agreed. Lets hope that thirty years from now you would be the one saying ``I told you so.``
regards.
#119 Posted by sephorah_gore on September 1, 2006 1:59:21 pm
people roaming around with islamic badges on thr chins, welcome the Return of Mullah aka Musketeers
dope
dope
#120 Posted by teshah on January 16, 2007 8:04:38 pm
Re: # 110
Adamkhan
You are wonderful dear. I lack words to praise your writeup. As I point out again and again Pakistan`s Constitution is nothing but that `Takfiri` fatwa declaring Ahmadies as non-Muslims and abusing their founder as an `imposter`. This much stands even when the `Islamic Constitution` remains suspended or even abrogated. In private they would condemn the Fatwa but they dare not say anything in the public against it. It is the ZAB who is responsible for this subversion directly or indirectly. In fact in Pakistan one can be accepted as a Muslim officially only when one submits an affidavit in accodance with the said fatwa. What a pity! When anybody out of this citadel of Islam can call himself a Muslim in his own right the pakyones cannot do so.
rgds
teshah
Adamkhan
You are wonderful dear. I lack words to praise your writeup. As I point out again and again Pakistan`s Constitution is nothing but that `Takfiri` fatwa declaring Ahmadies as non-Muslims and abusing their founder as an `imposter`. This much stands even when the `Islamic Constitution` remains suspended or even abrogated. In private they would condemn the Fatwa but they dare not say anything in the public against it. It is the ZAB who is responsible for this subversion directly or indirectly. In fact in Pakistan one can be accepted as a Muslim officially only when one submits an affidavit in accodance with the said fatwa. What a pity! When anybody out of this citadel of Islam can call himself a Muslim in his own right the pakyones cannot do so.
rgds
teshah
#121 Posted by ashrafhasan on January 29, 2007 1:25:08 am
Making Pakistan Safe for Rapists
-By Khalid Baig
http://albalagh.net/women/0096.shtml
more interesting links on hudood ordinance.
Lies & Distortions By The Media About Hudood Ordinance
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/Lies.htm
- imp!!!
Hudood ordinance and women protection bill:Comparitive analysis
http://deeneislam.com/ur/main.php?CID=86
-Expose Deception: Zara Bachieye!
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/
-An interview that was NEVER aired!
http://deeneislam.com/ur/main.php?CID=87
-Media against Hudood ordinance, WHY ?
An interview with Human rights activist, ``Amaanullah baloch``
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/aakhir-kyun.htm
- ``The reality of `women protection bill` ``
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/taqi-usmani-article-english.htm
- Hudood ordinance
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/taqiusmani-article-p1.htm
-Vote:
Do you agree that the Musharraf Government intends to make changes in the ``Blasphemy Act``
now ?
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/
-War against HudoodUllah (Brilliant article)
http://tarjumanulquran.org/2006/december/isharat001/1.htm
-Women protection bill, in light of Quran and Sunnah
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/mufti_muneeb_ur_rehman_article.htm
-Women protection bill: The real target is the ``family``
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/dr-syed-aziz-ur-rehman-article.htm
-FAQs on hudood rodinance:
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/faqs.htm
-Khalid Masood caught red handed in presenting false statistics!
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6991/khalidmasudcartoonyr5.gif
(zoom for clear view)
-Does the Protection of Women Act, 2006 provide relief to women?
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/FAQ3.htm
-A critique of the Women Protection Act
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/Critique_WPB.htm
-By Khalid Baig
http://albalagh.net/women/0096.shtml
more interesting links on hudood ordinance.
Lies & Distortions By The Media About Hudood Ordinance
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/Lies.htm
- imp!!!
Hudood ordinance and women protection bill:Comparitive analysis
http://deeneislam.com/ur/main.php?CID=86
-Expose Deception: Zara Bachieye!
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/
-An interview that was NEVER aired!
http://deeneislam.com/ur/main.php?CID=87
-Media against Hudood ordinance, WHY ?
An interview with Human rights activist, ``Amaanullah baloch``
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/aakhir-kyun.htm
- ``The reality of `women protection bill` ``
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/taqi-usmani-article-english.htm
- Hudood ordinance
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/taqiusmani-article-p1.htm
-Vote:
Do you agree that the Musharraf Government intends to make changes in the ``Blasphemy Act``
now ?
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/
-War against HudoodUllah (Brilliant article)
http://tarjumanulquran.org/2006/december/isharat001/1.htm
-Women protection bill, in light of Quran and Sunnah
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/mufti_muneeb_ur_rehman_article.htm
-Women protection bill: The real target is the ``family``
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/dr-syed-aziz-ur-rehman-article.htm
-FAQs on hudood rodinance:
http://www.hudoodordinance.com/faqs.htm
-Khalid Masood caught red handed in presenting false statistics!
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6991/khalidmasudcartoonyr5.gif
(zoom for clear view)
-Does the Protection of Women Act, 2006 provide relief to women?
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/FAQ3.htm
-A critique of the Women Protection Act
http://jsmawais.googlepages.com/Critique_WPB.htm
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