Mohammad Gill August 27, 2006
#18 Posted by DrDr on August 30, 2006 6:51:36 pm
correction to #17 - centiBillionaires not millionaires...
#17 Posted by DrDr on August 30, 2006 6:31:03 pm
#3
Im sure its profound but, as a white man said, cudnt a cigar b just a cigar?
I have trouble picturing ANY football star identifying with the yokels. They rnt supermen u know, being centimillionairs and dirty ayrabs/blacks/browns @ the same time..
Im sure its profound but, as a white man said, cudnt a cigar b just a cigar?
I have trouble picturing ANY football star identifying with the yokels. They rnt supermen u know, being centimillionairs and dirty ayrabs/blacks/browns @ the same time..
#19 Posted by saminasha2 on August 31, 2006 4:07:28 pm
Re: # 17
Zidane, like Mohammed Ali, Sania Mirza, Pele, Vince Papale (see: Invisible), Prefontaine, Michael Jordan are the role models, inspirations, and souls of the masses. Issues of class, race, gender, religious and sexual identity in the sphere of sports is as relevant as any other field.
Zidane, like Mohammed Ali, Sania Mirza, Pele, Vince Papale (see: Invisible), Prefontaine, Michael Jordan are the role models, inspirations, and souls of the masses. Issues of class, race, gender, religious and sexual identity in the sphere of sports is as relevant as any other field.
#16 Posted by ShoreSahib on August 29, 2006 11:19:28 pm
Hmmmm.....I am thinking whether I should accuse him of Date rape........
The man I fall in love with.....
Its like he is created in the image of the divine....atleast he thinks that.......and erects lots of phallic symbols everywhere to glorify his ever drooping viagra requiring Phallus.........
The more viagra he requries.......The more obstinate and perverted he gets......
Syed Akber Ahmed mentions him in his book as the perverted grandfather who seats the grandchild on his lap and then lovingly strokes the child.......now the innocent child for some reason knows that it is being violated if that is so the case........
But Pakistani children, or Islamic children have no recourse.....they are taught by their mothers to pray......
Pray to Allah.....He will listen to your prayers........Just grow up and then abuse your own children......
and the vicious cycle continues......
who will speak for the children of the world......
As Khalil Gibran would say......
Your children are not your property.........
O Mankind, why do you not heed the signs.....so clear!
Are you waiting for a table from heaven to arrive with a God sitting on it....or some defunct Imam......
Get a clue you idiots......
Hello DUH
The man I fall in love with.....
Its like he is created in the image of the divine....atleast he thinks that.......and erects lots of phallic symbols everywhere to glorify his ever drooping viagra requiring Phallus.........
The more viagra he requries.......The more obstinate and perverted he gets......
Syed Akber Ahmed mentions him in his book as the perverted grandfather who seats the grandchild on his lap and then lovingly strokes the child.......now the innocent child for some reason knows that it is being violated if that is so the case........
But Pakistani children, or Islamic children have no recourse.....they are taught by their mothers to pray......
Pray to Allah.....He will listen to your prayers........Just grow up and then abuse your own children......
and the vicious cycle continues......
who will speak for the children of the world......
As Khalil Gibran would say......
Your children are not your property.........
O Mankind, why do you not heed the signs.....so clear!
Are you waiting for a table from heaven to arrive with a God sitting on it....or some defunct Imam......
Get a clue you idiots......
Hello DUH
#15 Posted by ShoreSahib on August 29, 2006 9:02:16 pm
ok.... time to head off to Micheals in Pleasantville NY for karaoke Night.....
Must go sing.......
if you sing in karaoke bars... they dont lock you up ............
Must go sing.......
if you sing in karaoke bars... they dont lock you up ............
#14 Posted by ShoreSahib on August 29, 2006 9:00:37 pm
Today I denounce Islam......
and accept back the religion of my ancestors.....
I am Brahmin again.....
of Sanatan Dharm........
THats it......
Muslims can go to Hell..........Most of their men will end up there anyway......most of their women will be in Heaven anyway........so what does it matter......
and accept back the religion of my ancestors.....
I am Brahmin again.....
of Sanatan Dharm........
THats it......
Muslims can go to Hell..........Most of their men will end up there anyway......most of their women will be in Heaven anyway........so what does it matter......
#13 Posted by ShoreSahib on August 29, 2006 8:56:25 pm
As they say, Dubya the Almighty, the All powerful....the All Seeing is Benevolent......and very very merciful.....
He gives favors to those he shall.....calls them the Ashrafeen...... LOL... Get it......in more than one way..... Gold Ashrafis too!
Well.........in that case......lets see... that girl in Iraq who got raped and burned alive......
She rests in a place where no man can touch her......
She rests in a place underneath which gardens flow........
She rests near the Virgin Mother.........under Pomegranate trees, resting on rugs that shadow the finest Turkish Bursa Silk Hereke Rugs.....
She is Untouchable....Get it.....So very Code of Manu..........
Well............getting back to Mr. Dubya.......and the thousands of American boys who lost their lives....and their poor families........
We, the family of Shoresahib pray on their behalf and pray that Allah gives them Heaven......May Jesus Smile upon them......and seat them on his right hand..........
He gives favors to those he shall.....calls them the Ashrafeen...... LOL... Get it......in more than one way..... Gold Ashrafis too!
Well.........in that case......lets see... that girl in Iraq who got raped and burned alive......
She rests in a place where no man can touch her......
She rests in a place underneath which gardens flow........
She rests near the Virgin Mother.........under Pomegranate trees, resting on rugs that shadow the finest Turkish Bursa Silk Hereke Rugs.....
She is Untouchable....Get it.....So very Code of Manu..........
Well............getting back to Mr. Dubya.......and the thousands of American boys who lost their lives....and their poor families........
We, the family of Shoresahib pray on their behalf and pray that Allah gives them Heaven......May Jesus Smile upon them......and seat them on his right hand..........
#10 Posted by zeemax on August 28, 2006 11:39:18 pm
swarrier,
After Bush has finished with Camus (though he should have started his project with Dostoevsky), he should read Iqbal for an answer to the Myth of Sisyphus.
After Bush has finished with Camus (though he should have started his project with Dostoevsky), he should read Iqbal for an answer to the Myth of Sisyphus.
#8 Posted by wiseguyin on August 28, 2006 11:17:15 am
> how the Middle Eastern countries can not believe in the virtues of the western
> democracy?
Huh. Another pathetic attempt to subtly forward the idea of democracy being ``western``
somehow.....
Are the arabs (& arab goo-chaaters that are in abundance here) ok with ``Eastern`` democracy ?
How about some kind of south-eastern democrazy ?
Duh .....
> democracy?
Huh. Another pathetic attempt to subtly forward the idea of democracy being ``western``
somehow.....
Are the arabs (& arab goo-chaaters that are in abundance here) ok with ``Eastern`` democracy ?
How about some kind of south-eastern democrazy ?
Duh .....
#3 Posted by saminasha2 on August 28, 2006 7:01:27 am
Camus`s novel The Stranger was also recently used to frame the soccer player Zidane`s behavior in France`s game with Italy for the 2006 World Cup by International Herald/NY Times writer Roger Cohen. Cohen`s garbled parrallel claimed that Zidane`s action (headbutting an Italian player whom Zidane charges had been viciously baiting him throughout the game) was seen as ``unsportsmanlike``.
Zidane and France`s team was filled with athletes who were first or second generation French-all children of French legacy of colonialization. These athletes came to represent ideals of equality in a France where right wing demogogues like Le Pen refused to acknowledge them as citizens. Nationalistic, right wing working class Eurpoeans use the football field to perform their masculinity, national chauvinism and racism, often hurling abuse from spectator stands. In the midst of this specter of hostility, not to mention the institutional racism, impoverishment and low employment rates that face Algerian, North African and Muslim French young men, these athletes are supposed to behave perfectly.
That expectation of perfection led writer Roger Cohen to lament the ``inscrutability`` of Zidane`s now famous head butt. So called gentleman football fans expressed disappointment that a football player, the embodiment of athletic brilliance, could be ``unsportsmanlike``, and therefore claimed Zidane`s violence was a result of his inner essence as an Arab.
The irony was apparently lost on everyone, including Cohen, who apparently sees himself as the benevolent paternal judge and Zidane as the disconnected narrator. Again, such irony.
The narrator of the Stranger was an alienated son of French colonialists in Algeria. His murder of an Arab means nothing to him, because in the framework of Camus` postmodernist theory, all action is meaningless.
What some colleagues and I are discussing is how the bodies of people of color are used to signify white alienation. We are exploring how the theory of postmodernist existentialism uses the colonialist experience to affirm alienation in a disturbing ahistorical, apolitical context.
Dubya`s reading of the Stranger in this context makes perfect sense.
Zidane and France`s team was filled with athletes who were first or second generation French-all children of French legacy of colonialization. These athletes came to represent ideals of equality in a France where right wing demogogues like Le Pen refused to acknowledge them as citizens. Nationalistic, right wing working class Eurpoeans use the football field to perform their masculinity, national chauvinism and racism, often hurling abuse from spectator stands. In the midst of this specter of hostility, not to mention the institutional racism, impoverishment and low employment rates that face Algerian, North African and Muslim French young men, these athletes are supposed to behave perfectly.
That expectation of perfection led writer Roger Cohen to lament the ``inscrutability`` of Zidane`s now famous head butt. So called gentleman football fans expressed disappointment that a football player, the embodiment of athletic brilliance, could be ``unsportsmanlike``, and therefore claimed Zidane`s violence was a result of his inner essence as an Arab.
The irony was apparently lost on everyone, including Cohen, who apparently sees himself as the benevolent paternal judge and Zidane as the disconnected narrator. Again, such irony.
The narrator of the Stranger was an alienated son of French colonialists in Algeria. His murder of an Arab means nothing to him, because in the framework of Camus` postmodernist theory, all action is meaningless.
What some colleagues and I are discussing is how the bodies of people of color are used to signify white alienation. We are exploring how the theory of postmodernist existentialism uses the colonialist experience to affirm alienation in a disturbing ahistorical, apolitical context.
Dubya`s reading of the Stranger in this context makes perfect sense.
#11 Posted by ballukhan on August 29, 2006 12:13:00 am
Re: # 3
Very nice............please you need to write more.........
Very nice............please you need to write more.........
#4 Posted by saminasha2 on August 28, 2006 7:09:43 am
Re: # 3
addition to para 5
Another black irony is that historically the value of brown and black colonized bodies was meaningless in colonial policy. Had Camus` narrator lived even 40 years before the time frame of the novel, he would not have been held as accountable for the murder of an Arab man.
addition to para 5
Another black irony is that historically the value of brown and black colonized bodies was meaningless in colonial policy. Had Camus` narrator lived even 40 years before the time frame of the novel, he would not have been held as accountable for the murder of an Arab man.
#2 Posted by nb on August 28, 2006 5:56:34 am
It looks like the whole world can`t get over this. From the Sydney Morning Herald, August 22
FROM THE OUTSIDER IN
In the face of continuing barbs about his IQ, George Bush has made a laudable effort to intellectualisationalise himself, by reading the The Outsider over his summer vacation.
The classic existentialist text, written by the cheese eating surrender monkey and famous philosopher Albert Camus, follows the story of a detached man who is persecuted for his blank emotional reactions. He then kills an Arab because he kinda feels like it at the time.
We`re not sure why Dubya was drawn to this text as his holiday reading (we would have picked him as more of a crime-thriller man) but we`d like to suggestionate some more books for Dubya`s continued education in existentialism: 1. Heidegger`s Being and Time. Despite being German, Heidegger said some interesting things about Cartesian dualism. 2. Crime and Punishment a novel by the Russian (don`t worry, he wasn`t a communist) writer Fyodor Dostoevsky; and 3. Nausea by Jean Paul Sartre, although you should note that he was both French and a communist.
FROM THE OUTSIDER IN
In the face of continuing barbs about his IQ, George Bush has made a laudable effort to intellectualisationalise himself, by reading the The Outsider over his summer vacation.
The classic existentialist text, written by the cheese eating surrender monkey and famous philosopher Albert Camus, follows the story of a detached man who is persecuted for his blank emotional reactions. He then kills an Arab because he kinda feels like it at the time.
We`re not sure why Dubya was drawn to this text as his holiday reading (we would have picked him as more of a crime-thriller man) but we`d like to suggestionate some more books for Dubya`s continued education in existentialism: 1. Heidegger`s Being and Time. Despite being German, Heidegger said some interesting things about Cartesian dualism. 2. Crime and Punishment a novel by the Russian (don`t worry, he wasn`t a communist) writer Fyodor Dostoevsky; and 3. Nausea by Jean Paul Sartre, although you should note that he was both French and a communist.
#5 Posted by swarrier on August 28, 2006 7:33:18 am
Re: # 2
nb
How does a member of the French resistance become a cheese eating surrender monkey?
L`Etranger.
I don`t know what Mersault and Bush have in common. Perhaps Bush would have been better off reading the Myth of Sisyphus. At least he would then know that all endeavour is futile.
nb
How does a member of the French resistance become a cheese eating surrender monkey?
L`Etranger.
I don`t know what Mersault and Bush have in common. Perhaps Bush would have been better off reading the Myth of Sisyphus. At least he would then know that all endeavour is futile.
#6 Posted by nb on August 28, 2006 8:00:30 am
Re: # 5
Umm, this is meant to be amusing, -maybe it`s the Australian sense of humour you`re not getting?
Umm, this is meant to be amusing, -maybe it`s the Australian sense of humour you`re not getting?
#7 Posted by swarrier on August 28, 2006 8:41:13 am
Re: # 6
Oh I missed the appropriate smileys. Cheese eating surrender monkeys is more along the lines of American right wing radio shows.
Australians and a sense of humour that doesn`t deal with Fosters, Mel Gibson and rabbit proof fences . What are we gettting into now?-)
Oh I missed the appropriate smileys. Cheese eating surrender monkeys is more along the lines of American right wing radio shows.
Australians and a sense of humour that doesn`t deal with Fosters, Mel Gibson and rabbit proof fences . What are we gettting into now?-)
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