How to Kill the Dead Again
Feroz Qutabshahi August 30, 2006
#169 Posted by Kulharee on September 12, 2006 6:28:11 am
There is a very interesting little snippet in the NYTimes today.
President Ahmadinejad has closed down a top Iranian Newspaper, Sharagh, for printing a cartoon that was seemed insulting to the regime. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
It is truly mind boggling that how a little cartoon criticizing the regime is so painful to him that he had to shut the paper down.
May be some super brains can explain this little, my shyt don’t stink’ phenomenon so widely prevalent in the Islamic world?
President Ahmadinejad has closed down a top Iranian Newspaper, Sharagh, for printing a cartoon that was seemed insulting to the regime. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
It is truly mind boggling that how a little cartoon criticizing the regime is so painful to him that he had to shut the paper down.
May be some super brains can explain this little, my shyt don’t stink’ phenomenon so widely prevalent in the Islamic world?
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#168 Posted by echoboom on September 10, 2006 9:13:11 pm
and look how a Mullah( good word--use it often) so learned, one from a madressa, fluent in four european languages besides Farsi, arabie, and urdu is received & respected.
No wonder the Ba Ba Blacksheep turn out to be mere jobbers, the master-kissers of their master`s-tushes.
``Slaves, never masters``..the chant of the toata-mainaas from the missionoried-schools.
No wonder the Ba Ba Blacksheep turn out to be mere jobbers, the master-kissers of their master`s-tushes.
``Slaves, never masters``..the chant of the toata-mainaas from the missionoried-schools.
Khatami calls Hizbollah symbol of resistance
Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:47pm ET
By Svea Herbst-Bayliss
CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts (Reuters) - Former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami said on Sunday Hizbollah was a symbol of Arab resistance and that groups or nations fighting oppression could not be equated with terrorists.
Khatami said there was a difference between those who ``strive for the territorial integrity of a country and those who kill only to kill.`` His comments, through an interpreter, came in reply to a student question after he delivered a speech at Harvard University`s Kennedy School of Government.
He called Hizbollah, which fought a 34-day war with Israel in Lebanon this summer and is classified as a terrorist organization by the United States, ``a symbol of Arabic resistance.`` Washington has accused Iran of arming Hizbollah guerrillas.
Hizbollah was founded in 1982 and waged a long guerrilla war to evict Israeli forces from Lebanon. Its recent fighting with Israel was sparked after the group kidnapped two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid on July 12.
Khatami, a cleric who was Iran`s president from 1997 to 2005 and was considered a reformist, also denied Iran financed terrorist groups, contradicting assertions by the United States.
Replying to the same student, who repeated allegations that Khatami`s government had financed terrorists, Khatami replied: ``Are you sure I gave hundreds of millions in aid to terrorists? I assure you this has not happened and will not happen.``
It was not clear if Khatami was referring just to his own government. He did not mention what policies his hard-line successor, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, might have toward Hizbollah.
The speech in Cambridge on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the September 11 attacks on the United States, marked the end of a controversial five-city visit that included stops in Washington and New York.
Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney did not allow state police to escort Khatami as police would normally do, after calling his planned speech at Harvard ``propaganda.``
About 200 protesters crowded outside the Kennedy School and one child held a sign with a picture of New York`s World Trade Center -- destroyed in the September 11 attacks -- and ``Remember This`` written underneath.
President George W. Bush has called Iran part of an ``axis of evil`` but said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal his administration issued Khatami a visa to travel in the United States because he wanted to hear his views.
Khatami is the highest-ranking Iranian to visit Washington since the United States cut diplomatic ties after student radicals held 52 Americans hostage during the 1979 revolution.
© Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.
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By Svea Herbst-Bayliss
CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts (Reuters) - Former Iranian President Mohammed Khatami said on Sunday Hizbollah was a symbol of Arab resistance and that groups or nations fighting oppression could not be equated with terrorists.
Khatami said there was a difference between those who ``strive for the territorial integrity of a country and those who kill only to kill.`` His comments, through an interpreter, came in reply to a student question after he delivered a speech at Harvard University`s Kennedy School of Government.
He called Hizbollah, which fought a 34-day war with Israel in Lebanon this summer and is classified as a terrorist organization by the United States, ``a symbol of Arabic resistance.`` Washington has accused Iran of arming Hizbollah guerrillas.
Hizbollah was founded in 1982 and waged a long guerrilla war to evict Israeli forces from Lebanon. Its recent fighting with Israel was sparked after the group kidnapped two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid on July 12.
Khatami, a cleric who was Iran`s president from 1997 to 2005 and was considered a reformist, also denied Iran financed terrorist groups, contradicting assertions by the United States.
Replying to the same student, who repeated allegations that Khatami`s government had financed terrorists, Khatami replied: ``Are you sure I gave hundreds of millions in aid to terrorists? I assure you this has not happened and will not happen.``
It was not clear if Khatami was referring just to his own government. He did not mention what policies his hard-line successor, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, might have toward Hizbollah.
The speech in Cambridge on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the September 11 attacks on the United States, marked the end of a controversial five-city visit that included stops in Washington and New York.
Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney did not allow state police to escort Khatami as police would normally do, after calling his planned speech at Harvard ``propaganda.``
About 200 protesters crowded outside the Kennedy School and one child held a sign with a picture of New York`s World Trade Center -- destroyed in the September 11 attacks -- and ``Remember This`` written underneath.
President George W. Bush has called Iran part of an ``axis of evil`` but said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal his administration issued Khatami a visa to travel in the United States because he wanted to hear his views.
Khatami is the highest-ranking Iranian to visit Washington since the United States cut diplomatic ties after student radicals held 52 Americans hostage during the 1979 revolution.
© Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.
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#167 Posted by echoboom on September 10, 2006 7:39:35 pm
Now why this news has not been mentioned in any of the so-called big-name media.
The reason, dear muslims, is that they are United Satans.
``Never ever will they take you their friends, until & unless you adopt their way of life``.
Now where did I read that? The muslims here know that.
Only those who pose as muslims amongst us but
who love to drool at gora-stool & yet
consider themselves cool, will not
deny they went to school
where Ba Ba Blacksheep as a rule
always bah bahed for more wool.
Enjoy & share it with your e-mail buddies.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/760576.html
Mon., September 11, 2006 Elul 18, 5766
40,000 rally in TA to demand official war probe
Reuters
Some 40,000 Israelis demonstrated in Tel Aviv last night to demand that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert order an independent state inquiry into his government`s handling of the war in Lebanon.
The rally was the largest public show of dissatisfaction with Olmert since he took office in May. Polls show his popularity has tumbled amid public frustration with Israel`s failure to crush Hezbollah guerrillas.
The 34-day campaign, launched after Hezbollah captured two soldiers in a cross-border raid, ended with an August 14 truce that has largely held. Olmert has pledged only a government probe into the war instead of an independent inquiry.
Police said a crowd of around 40,000 thronged Rabin Square in Tel Aviv. Many in the crowd, which spilled into nearby streets, were reservists who served during the war.
Organizers said they were happy with the turnout, though some protests against past governments have been much bigger.
Speakers complained that the army had been ill equipped and civilians ill prepared to face Hezbollah rockets that rained on northern Israel during the fighting. A total of 1,200 Lebanese, mostly civilians, and 157 Israelis, two-thirds of them soldiers, were killed in the war.
Protesters sent up cries of: ``Olmert go home.``
Spurning the calls from the demonstrators, Olmert told a news conference in Jerusalem: ``I see things differently.``
The prime minister has vowed to hold an internal probe of the war, under a panel his cabinet has yet to name. Israeli media said the cabinet was likely to put off a decision on naming the panel that had been expected today.
Among the speakers in Tel Aviv were leaders of both left and right-wing parties opposed to Olmert`s centrist Kadima. They formed an odd alliance of those who supported the war and those who wanted to end it sooner.
``Never has there been such confusion and contradictory orders issued in the handling of a war,`` said former defense minister Moshe Arens, of the right-wing Likud party.
Yossi Sarid, a former lawmaker with the leftist Meretz party called on Olmert, Defense Minister Amir Peretz and Chief of Staff Dan Halutz to resign. ``If you don`t return home on your own initiative, Israeli democracy will send you home,`` Sarid said.
Protest leader Eliad Shraga said, ``We hope to open the prime minister`s eyes,`` to force him to name an independent commission of inquiry headed by a Supreme Court justice to investigate the army`s failings.
The reason, dear muslims, is that they are United Satans.
``Never ever will they take you their friends, until & unless you adopt their way of life``.
Now where did I read that? The muslims here know that.
Only those who pose as muslims amongst us but
who love to drool at gora-stool & yet
consider themselves cool, will not
deny they went to school
where Ba Ba Blacksheep as a rule
always bah bahed for more wool.
Enjoy & share it with your e-mail buddies.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/760576.html
Mon., September 11, 2006 Elul 18, 5766
40,000 rally in TA to demand official war probe
Reuters
Some 40,000 Israelis demonstrated in Tel Aviv last night to demand that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert order an independent state inquiry into his government`s handling of the war in Lebanon.
The rally was the largest public show of dissatisfaction with Olmert since he took office in May. Polls show his popularity has tumbled amid public frustration with Israel`s failure to crush Hezbollah guerrillas.
The 34-day campaign, launched after Hezbollah captured two soldiers in a cross-border raid, ended with an August 14 truce that has largely held. Olmert has pledged only a government probe into the war instead of an independent inquiry.
Police said a crowd of around 40,000 thronged Rabin Square in Tel Aviv. Many in the crowd, which spilled into nearby streets, were reservists who served during the war.
Organizers said they were happy with the turnout, though some protests against past governments have been much bigger.
Speakers complained that the army had been ill equipped and civilians ill prepared to face Hezbollah rockets that rained on northern Israel during the fighting. A total of 1,200 Lebanese, mostly civilians, and 157 Israelis, two-thirds of them soldiers, were killed in the war.
Protesters sent up cries of: ``Olmert go home.``
Spurning the calls from the demonstrators, Olmert told a news conference in Jerusalem: ``I see things differently.``
The prime minister has vowed to hold an internal probe of the war, under a panel his cabinet has yet to name. Israeli media said the cabinet was likely to put off a decision on naming the panel that had been expected today.
Among the speakers in Tel Aviv were leaders of both left and right-wing parties opposed to Olmert`s centrist Kadima. They formed an odd alliance of those who supported the war and those who wanted to end it sooner.
``Never has there been such confusion and contradictory orders issued in the handling of a war,`` said former defense minister Moshe Arens, of the right-wing Likud party.
Yossi Sarid, a former lawmaker with the leftist Meretz party called on Olmert, Defense Minister Amir Peretz and Chief of Staff Dan Halutz to resign. ``If you don`t return home on your own initiative, Israeli democracy will send you home,`` Sarid said.
Protest leader Eliad Shraga said, ``We hope to open the prime minister`s eyes,`` to force him to name an independent commission of inquiry headed by a Supreme Court justice to investigate the army`s failings.
#166 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2006 11:49:20 pm
Pls read #388 instead of #389 in the post below.
#165 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2006 11:45:41 pm
Re #160/161.
Pls see my #316 on YLH board and decide which interactor violated the interact policy. Was it the author of # 386 on the Bugti board or #389?
#164 by VRV
This is a bit more than just sectarinism out of religious zeal. It is a turf battle before Iraq is split along ethnic lines as per the original allied plan. Knowing this, each side is trying to expel the other from its claimed territory. The pilgrims are just innocent victims.
According to Juan Cole comments of 3/9/06, ``the hapless pilgrims have become ex post facto companions of the Imam (which is the significance of them being buried, as martyrs, in Karbala)``.
Pls see my #316 on YLH board and decide which interactor violated the interact policy. Was it the author of # 386 on the Bugti board or #389?
#164 by VRV
This is a bit more than just sectarinism out of religious zeal. It is a turf battle before Iraq is split along ethnic lines as per the original allied plan. Knowing this, each side is trying to expel the other from its claimed territory. The pilgrims are just innocent victims.
According to Juan Cole comments of 3/9/06, ``the hapless pilgrims have become ex post facto companions of the Imam (which is the significance of them being buried, as martyrs, in Karbala)``.
#164 Posted by VRV on September 4, 2006 10:01:52 am
Dear Zee,
I hope u r browinsg the pages of chowk.com.
Pl watch this Tom and Jerry comic video episode while waiting for your Heavenly/Hell Express.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4566450909896480167&q=Tom+and+Jerry
Pl come back as soon as u finish your reward/punishment.
Miss u here & miss your take on massacre of Indian+Pakistani Shia pilgrims in Iraq.
VRV.
I hope u r browinsg the pages of chowk.com.
Pl watch this Tom and Jerry comic video episode while waiting for your Heavenly/Hell Express.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4566450909896480167&q=Tom+and+Jerry
Pl come back as soon as u finish your reward/punishment.
Miss u here & miss your take on massacre of Indian+Pakistani Shia pilgrims in Iraq.
VRV.
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#162 Posted by masadi on September 2, 2006 1:04:57 pm
behram writes <<< Do you get it? For the love of your coreligionist please get it. >>>
What you don`t understand is that the author of that article you posted is deliberately (in the labels that he uses and the blame that he assigns) trying to present the opponents as the evil to begin with and the US as the good that is provoked into doing evil. Thereby he is trying to scare the non participants in this farcial war between the petty terrorists (the damn fools) and the higher terrorists (US) to give up their struggle against oppression and tyranny~ the real ``war``, a war for the existence of humanity regardless of label in which today over half of the population on earth is living worse than animals with unfulfilled basic needs. That is the war for justice and freedom and this farce that the US is busying the world with is a major distraction from that in which that damn fool author you posted from is calling for people doing the real struggle to lay down their arms. That will not happen and should not happen.
What you don`t understand is that the author of that article you posted is deliberately (in the labels that he uses and the blame that he assigns) trying to present the opponents as the evil to begin with and the US as the good that is provoked into doing evil. Thereby he is trying to scare the non participants in this farcial war between the petty terrorists (the damn fools) and the higher terrorists (US) to give up their struggle against oppression and tyranny~ the real ``war``, a war for the existence of humanity regardless of label in which today over half of the population on earth is living worse than animals with unfulfilled basic needs. That is the war for justice and freedom and this farce that the US is busying the world with is a major distraction from that in which that damn fool author you posted from is calling for people doing the real struggle to lay down their arms. That will not happen and should not happen.
#161 Posted by tahmed32 on September 2, 2006 4:08:24 am
GT: Greetings.
I wish I could applaud you for speaking out against censorship. However, a moment`s reflection should tell you that you are in fact arguing in favor of censorship. Let me explain:
On chowk, when a poster heaps abuse and ridicule upon another poster who says something he does not agree with, he is imposing his own form of censorship.
Think about this. Then come and talk to me about censorship and whose fan you are or are not.
I wish I could applaud you for speaking out against censorship. However, a moment`s reflection should tell you that you are in fact arguing in favor of censorship. Let me explain:
On chowk, when a poster heaps abuse and ridicule upon another poster who says something he does not agree with, he is imposing his own form of censorship.
Think about this. Then come and talk to me about censorship and whose fan you are or are not.
#160 Posted by GT on September 1, 2006 1:53:53 pm
Re: # 158
Dear tahmed,
Zee did misbehave with you and that is not correct. Furthermore, zee does not need me to defend him and neither am I doing so. But, through all his rage he, I think, was trying to get a point across, and that is (exactly what you say below):
``You are merely exploiting this disgusting posting to promote your own hate-filled agenda with which you regularly entertained us with on chowk in past years.``
I do not know where, but somewhere zee explicitly indicated who this ``You`` was. It was a jingoist Indian writer who used this picture in a rediff.com article.
I am no fan of zee. We disagree ideologically. But banning him is not correct, just like banning arjun_m is not correct. People (and very polite people at that) have expressed worse. Yes, zee did use foul language. But he claims he was induced by others to do so. Just as he induced stuka to use foul language. But guess what, censorship is not the solution. If you reflect on it, I think you will agree. Heck, I feel zee`s greatest fan is VRV :-)
Dear tahmed,
Zee did misbehave with you and that is not correct. Furthermore, zee does not need me to defend him and neither am I doing so. But, through all his rage he, I think, was trying to get a point across, and that is (exactly what you say below):
``You are merely exploiting this disgusting posting to promote your own hate-filled agenda with which you regularly entertained us with on chowk in past years.``
I do not know where, but somewhere zee explicitly indicated who this ``You`` was. It was a jingoist Indian writer who used this picture in a rediff.com article.
I am no fan of zee. We disagree ideologically. But banning him is not correct, just like banning arjun_m is not correct. People (and very polite people at that) have expressed worse. Yes, zee did use foul language. But he claims he was induced by others to do so. Just as he induced stuka to use foul language. But guess what, censorship is not the solution. If you reflect on it, I think you will agree. Heck, I feel zee`s greatest fan is VRV :-)
#159 Posted by tahmed32 on September 1, 2006 10:28:41 am
CHOWK STAFF: I am glad you finally took out zeemax`s disgusting posting. It took you some time though - which indicates that you are not actively keeping an eye on chowk postings to make sure individuals dont use this free privilege as a license for subhuman behavior.
A few weeks back you had indicated that you were coming up with a more effective method to ensure compliance with guidelines. Nothing has happened as yet. It is not easy to do this. Perhaps you should write up what you propose to do, then allow some brainstorming/`debate on chowk??
A few weeks back you had indicated that you were coming up with a more effective method to ensure compliance with guidelines. Nothing has happened as yet. It is not easy to do this. Perhaps you should write up what you propose to do, then allow some brainstorming/`debate on chowk??
#158 Posted by tahmed32 on September 1, 2006 10:22:08 am
Jay Thakeray: You point to zeemax and his admittedly disgusting postings of that picture of the desecration of a dead body. You ignore the pakistani posters who expressed their disgust. And use this as a convenient means to vilify the Islamic religion. This puts you almost on the same plane as zeemax. You are merely exploiting this disgusting posting to promote your own hate-filled agenda with which you regularly entertained us with on chowk in past years.
#157 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 9:34:14 am
My challenge is to all and sundry if they can find that Patna photo. It is not on the web. It was removed by AP on the day it was posted because of pressure from Indian Government scared of damage to `shining hindia`.
#155 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 9:18:58 am
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#154 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 9:16:53 am
And where is that great `sadna`? No comments either?
#153 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 9:15:49 am
Jay1 is still MIA desperately seeking google ...
search .... search .....
search .... search .....
#152 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 8:46:52 am
Re: # 150
Zee,
This is my reply. If u cant understand, seek some help for interpretation.
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DimZee,
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions - a primitive mindset. (Taliban mindset is based on Islamic principles, I guess).
Indian women police cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders : a reaction to a civil offence by the girl.
This is done in any civilised country. In the west they push these girls with shields (a more sophisticated way, naturally).
Pl explain, why Pak men cut the throats of their grown-up girls for loving somebody outside their caste/clan?
Explain.
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Zee,
This is my reply. If u cant understand, seek some help for interpretation.
++++++
DimZee,
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions - a primitive mindset. (Taliban mindset is based on Islamic principles, I guess).
Indian women police cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders : a reaction to a civil offence by the girl.
This is done in any civilised country. In the west they push these girls with shields (a more sophisticated way, naturally).
Pl explain, why Pak men cut the throats of their grown-up girls for loving somebody outside their caste/clan?
Explain.
+++++
#150 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:43:36 am
VRV,
I gave you the answer back in #139. You keep repeating like a parrot.
Here it is. Answer this:
#139 by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:05am PT
VRV,
I see. So according to you this is what the difference is:
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions.
Indian women police (False. It is male police) cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders :
So, what is the difference AH? Both are disobeying orders.
I gave you the answer back in #139. You keep repeating like a parrot.
Here it is. Answer this:
#139 by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:05am PT
VRV,
I see. So according to you this is what the difference is:
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions.
Indian women police (False. It is male police) cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders :
So, what is the difference AH? Both are disobeying orders.
#149 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 8:38:57 am
Re: # 145
Zee
If you cant understand this and you dont have an answer for my poser......then you better join some elementary school in the US.
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#134 by VRV on September 1, 2006 7:41am PT
Re: # 132
DimZee,
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions - a primitive mindset. (Taliban mindset is based on Islamic principles, I guess).
Indian women police cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders : a reaction to a civil offence by the girl.
This is done in any civilised country. In the west they push these girls with shields (a more sophisticated way, naturally).
Pl explain, why Pak men cut the throats of their grown-up girls for loving somebody outside their caste/clan?
Explain.
++++++
If u have not understood this u r the REAL DimZee/ZeeDIM/MaxDimZee/ZeeMazDim.
Now u ZeeEff.
Zee
If you cant understand this and you dont have an answer for my poser......then you better join some elementary school in the US.
++++
#134 by VRV on September 1, 2006 7:41am PT
Re: # 132
DimZee,
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions - a primitive mindset. (Taliban mindset is based on Islamic principles, I guess).
Indian women police cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders : a reaction to a civil offence by the girl.
This is done in any civilised country. In the west they push these girls with shields (a more sophisticated way, naturally).
Pl explain, why Pak men cut the throats of their grown-up girls for loving somebody outside their caste/clan?
Explain.
++++++
If u have not understood this u r the REAL DimZee/ZeeDIM/MaxDimZee/ZeeMazDim.
Now u ZeeEff.
#147 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:34:32 am
I`ll even give you hints. This is from a May 20th 2006 AP news service photo from the medical students riot over reservations for harijans or whatever you call them.
Find it.
Find it.
#146 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:32:28 am
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#144 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:27:26 am
#141 by jay1
Jay AH, find this photo on google and I will surrender. This pic has a background. It is NOT on the entire web ...
Now go and google and find it and post it here ... !
Jay AH, find this photo on google and I will surrender. This pic has a background. It is NOT on the entire web ...
Now go and google and find it and post it here ... !
#143 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 8:23:29 am
Re: # 141
Jay,
I agree.
Zee is holding the Rediff photo of Border guard (BSF, NOT an army soldier) in the left hand and holding his manliness in the right and was spraying these boards for 2 days.
Let somebody post the beaten Pak soldiers in Bangladesh....
......as Saleembhai said, we shud not be inhuman to celabrate death and gore. It applies to Hero and Zee as well.
Jay,
I agree.
Zee is holding the Rediff photo of Border guard (BSF, NOT an army soldier) in the left hand and holding his manliness in the right and was spraying these boards for 2 days.
Let somebody post the beaten Pak soldiers in Bangladesh....
......as Saleembhai said, we shud not be inhuman to celabrate death and gore. It applies to Hero and Zee as well.
#142 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 8:15:00 am
Re: # 139
Zee Baboo,
>>>>So, what is the difference AH? Both are disobeying orders.<<<<
What is the diff between a nudist society (eg. http://clothesfree.com/ OR http://members.shaw.ca/osns/) and a normal civil Society?
The rules of collective conscience are different.
Zee Baboo,
>>>>So, what is the difference AH? Both are disobeying orders.<<<<
What is the diff between a nudist society (eg. http://clothesfree.com/ OR http://members.shaw.ca/osns/) and a normal civil Society?
The rules of collective conscience are different.
#141 Posted by jay1 on September 1, 2006 8:14:42 am
vrvjee,
zeemax and echoboom are furiously into google for more pics of dead indian soldiers on sticks carried by lungi clad islamic zealots.
As though mauling / disfiguring dead indian soldiers is considered hieght of islamic behaviour.
Remember the torturing of the captured indian airmen by the pakis?
genital mutilation, crushing of the skull etc?
Poor guys have only the grand mughals to follow!!
That is why what happened in 1971 to those poor BLACK & inferior bengalis at the hands of these likemided islamic zealots, happened.
Zeemax cannot hide the mindset, it is just under his skin.
bhediya bhediya hi rehta hai, bhale khaal koi aur ho!
I have yet to come across a single ``counterpost`` by these 2 that is civilised and instructive.
zeemax and echoboom are furiously into google for more pics of dead indian soldiers on sticks carried by lungi clad islamic zealots.
As though mauling / disfiguring dead indian soldiers is considered hieght of islamic behaviour.
Remember the torturing of the captured indian airmen by the pakis?
genital mutilation, crushing of the skull etc?
Poor guys have only the grand mughals to follow!!
That is why what happened in 1971 to those poor BLACK & inferior bengalis at the hands of these likemided islamic zealots, happened.
Zeemax cannot hide the mindset, it is just under his skin.
bhediya bhediya hi rehta hai, bhale khaal koi aur ho!
I have yet to come across a single ``counterpost`` by these 2 that is civilised and instructive.
#140 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 8:08:19 am
Re: # 138
ZeeEeeEff,
I cant wake-up a man pretending to be asleep.
Did u have some Dim-Sum (Chinese snack) for breakfast? :-))
I am having my humble pie here.
Tata Tata Bye Bye......u heartless people.
Let the readers judge for themselves. You guys are heartless and kill your grown-up girls by cutting their throats for their sin of loving somebody outside your caste/clan?
ZeeEeeEff,
I cant wake-up a man pretending to be asleep.
Did u have some Dim-Sum (Chinese snack) for breakfast? :-))
I am having my humble pie here.
Tata Tata Bye Bye......u heartless people.
Let the readers judge for themselves. You guys are heartless and kill your grown-up girls by cutting their throats for their sin of loving somebody outside your caste/clan?
#139 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:05:41 am
VRV,
I see. So according to you this is what the difference is:
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions.
Indian women police (False. It is male police) cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders :
So, what is the difference AH? Both are disobeying orders.
I see. So according to you this is what the difference is:
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions.
Indian women police (False. It is male police) cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders :
So, what is the difference AH? Both are disobeying orders.
#138 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 8:01:50 am
VRV,
You`re just evading the issue.
Can you please just be be more clear on what the difference is?
You`re just evading the issue.
Can you please just be be more clear on what the difference is?
#137 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 7:53:28 am
Max DimZee,
Dont search Google. Give ur reply that comes from your heart.
Is it right to cut the throat of a grown-up girl as if the imaginary honour is more important the happiness of the girl?
Are u heartless people?
Dont search Google. Give ur reply that comes from your heart.
Is it right to cut the throat of a grown-up girl as if the imaginary honour is more important the happiness of the girl?
Are u heartless people?
#134 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 7:41:02 am
Re: # 132
DimZee,
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions - a primitive mindset. (Taliban mindset is based on Islamic principles, I guess).
Indian women police cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders : a reaction to a civil offence by the girl.
This is done in any civilised country. In the west they push these girls with shields (a more sophisticated way, naturally).
Pl explain, why Pak men cut the throats of their grown-up girls for loving somebody outside their caste/clan?
Explain.
DimZee,
Taliban caning women for going outside without male companions - a primitive mindset. (Taliban mindset is based on Islamic principles, I guess).
Indian women police cane these girls for defying the prohibitory orders : a reaction to a civil offence by the girl.
This is done in any civilised country. In the west they push these girls with shields (a more sophisticated way, naturally).
Pl explain, why Pak men cut the throats of their grown-up girls for loving somebody outside their caste/clan?
Explain.
#133 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 7:35:56 am
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#132 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 7:34:17 am
#131 by VRV
I can`t get head or tail of what you`re saying. Can you please be more clear on what the difference is?
I can`t get head or tail of what you`re saying. Can you please be more clear on what the difference is?
#131 Posted by VRV on September 1, 2006 7:30:02 am
Re: # 128
Here I amZee!
There`s a diff.
Indian girl is not caned for wearing a salwar kameez but protesting against the prohibitory orders. (BTW, I hate Indian police the most for still retaing the Master mentality in free India!)
Taliban is caning them - though women dressed like dead bodies draped in full - for coming outout male companion.
Pl see this:
What about cutting the throats of girls in Pakistan for loving somebody different from their own caste/tribe?
The reccent case is Hina Salim from Italy. Her throat was cut and she was buried in the backyard by her father and brother.
KyonZee? Any comments?
Here I amZee!
There`s a diff.
Indian girl is not caned for wearing a salwar kameez but protesting against the prohibitory orders. (BTW, I hate Indian police the most for still retaing the Master mentality in free India!)
Taliban is caning them - though women dressed like dead bodies draped in full - for coming outout male companion.
Pl see this:
What about cutting the throats of girls in Pakistan for loving somebody different from their own caste/tribe?
The reccent case is Hina Salim from Italy. Her throat was cut and she was buried in the backyard by her father and brother.
KyonZee? Any comments?
#130 Posted by echoboom on September 1, 2006 6:28:11 am
Bush, the ignorant buffoon has given a very clear choice to his loyal slaves; a first step towards freeing them rather than selling them or out-sourcing them.
The baboon said : ``Are you with us, or with them``.
It is decision time for slaves. Slaves have never ever given decision making tasks. Slaves are in a quandry. Slaves who have the mentality to ALWAYS choose comfort, convenience, and safety as PRIMARY virtues in life..rather than Losing jobs, fighting masters (feeding hands, imprisoned or terrorised to have the courage & dignity to break the shackles.
The Slaves, Daroowallas( liquor suppliers) & JharRoowalaas ( broom-carriers) alongwith their muslim Sikh & Hindu amma-auctioneers SERVED the Britto Baboons...Enjoyed life under their patronage.. and suddenly acquired ``taste`` ``respectability`` ``do-gooding virtues``..taught at their freemason haunts.
The slaves are worried..oh we Look muslims; we look Indian; we look hindu..
``O kaliyaa ubb teraa kyaa banay gaa........`` the slave looks in the mirror and asks.
What the slave does not understand is that a thousand pounds of Emex or fair& lovely just cannot make him a Michael Jackson. What the slave does not understand is that EVEN if a white man becomes a muslim; it is very very difficult for him to get rid of the ``race card`` from his geneticcode [ tough but understandable]. It is just like thos who converted or spent a lot of time among hindus acquire the ``caste-card`` in their genetic code.
It is also the reason that the Pakis Langoors & Baboons, with hindu castecard also found the ``class card` of the Britto Baboons very helpful to keep the ``aborgines`` [practicing Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims who stuck to their culture, dress, food & music].
It is for this reason that the Black, the negro, no matter how good a christian he might become he will always be at his wits ends as to why he is not considered an equal.
The Sikhs get mistaken as muslims, the hindus get mistaken as Pakis, the Parsis have to apologise that they are not Irani or muslim & suddenly wish they looked hindu...Sleeper-cell syndrome EVERYWHERE.
The safest muslim is the one who looks like Usama or Nasrullah...Either they are a mole or
they find that they have nothing to hide.
Decision time for Slaves? Oh what a howl would that be.
``Bharoasa kur naheeN saktay ghulaamoan kee baseerat pUR
Jisay zaibaa kahaiN azaad bUnday; hai vohee zaiba``....ALLAMA IQBAL
tr: the judgement of a slave can never ever be trusted; whatever a free men consider appropriate , is appropriate.
The baboon said : ``Are you with us, or with them``.
It is decision time for slaves. Slaves have never ever given decision making tasks. Slaves are in a quandry. Slaves who have the mentality to ALWAYS choose comfort, convenience, and safety as PRIMARY virtues in life..rather than Losing jobs, fighting masters (feeding hands, imprisoned or terrorised to have the courage & dignity to break the shackles.
The Slaves, Daroowallas( liquor suppliers) & JharRoowalaas ( broom-carriers) alongwith their muslim Sikh & Hindu amma-auctioneers SERVED the Britto Baboons...Enjoyed life under their patronage.. and suddenly acquired ``taste`` ``respectability`` ``do-gooding virtues``..taught at their freemason haunts.
The slaves are worried..oh we Look muslims; we look Indian; we look hindu..
``O kaliyaa ubb teraa kyaa banay gaa........`` the slave looks in the mirror and asks.
What the slave does not understand is that a thousand pounds of Emex or fair& lovely just cannot make him a Michael Jackson. What the slave does not understand is that EVEN if a white man becomes a muslim; it is very very difficult for him to get rid of the ``race card`` from his geneticcode [ tough but understandable]. It is just like thos who converted or spent a lot of time among hindus acquire the ``caste-card`` in their genetic code.
It is also the reason that the Pakis Langoors & Baboons, with hindu castecard also found the ``class card` of the Britto Baboons very helpful to keep the ``aborgines`` [practicing Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims who stuck to their culture, dress, food & music].
It is for this reason that the Black, the negro, no matter how good a christian he might become he will always be at his wits ends as to why he is not considered an equal.
The Sikhs get mistaken as muslims, the hindus get mistaken as Pakis, the Parsis have to apologise that they are not Irani or muslim & suddenly wish they looked hindu...Sleeper-cell syndrome EVERYWHERE.
The safest muslim is the one who looks like Usama or Nasrullah...Either they are a mole or
they find that they have nothing to hide.
Decision time for Slaves? Oh what a howl would that be.
``Bharoasa kur naheeN saktay ghulaamoan kee baseerat pUR
Jisay zaibaa kahaiN azaad bUnday; hai vohee zaiba``....ALLAMA IQBAL
tr: the judgement of a slave can never ever be trusted; whatever a free men consider appropriate , is appropriate.
#129 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 6:17:51 am
Or are they ignoring #122 in all their wisdom? I ask, what is the difference?
In the end, the ``Unflinching Idealists`` will win. Rest will fall by the wayside.
Taliban are primitive, and Hindia ain`t shining.
In the end, the ``Unflinching Idealists`` will win. Rest will fall by the wayside.
Taliban are primitive, and Hindia ain`t shining.
#128 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 6:09:53 am
I`m waiting for worthy ineractors` comments re #122.
#127 Posted by echoboom on September 1, 2006 5:57:23 am
It feels tremendously great when muslims see the United Satans whining & complaining.
Isn`t that a first step towards reforming their erstwhile arrogant & bullying behaviour?
Everyone from the higher civilisations are kicking & spitting upon the United Satans...
Once that happens, we all know what follows.
Any person or nation, once it loses respect & is taunted for all & sundry to see, is always a cleargiveaway that the monster inside him/it has been bloodied & hollowed.
Only a little nudge is needed to see it crumble &collapse.
as the ALLAMA haS said:
``mgar yeh raaz aakhir khuul gayaa saarey zamaaney pUR``..& finally
the best-kept secret was out in the open; the house of Taimoor has lost all sense of selfworth & dignity.
MashaAllah ; the march is on!
Headline NewsThursday, August 31, 2006
by Staff Writer
Yet more anti-Semitism in the Muslim world
Just when you thought you could no longer be surprised by what comes out of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s mouth, comes a disclosure of a letter sent by him to German Chancellor Angela Merkel this week saying that the Holocaust was being exploited by the Jews in order to embarrass Germany.
“I do not wish to research the Holocaust,” writes the Iranian President, “however, it does not make sense that some of the countries that had won in World War II, have created an excuse to place a nation in a permanent state of embarrassment, to weaken its motivation and vitality and to prevents its growth and progress.”
Ahmadinejad, who on more than one occasion had declared that he believed that the Holocaust was nothing more than a historical myth, added that the Germans, like the population of the Middle East and all of humanity are being exploited by the Holocaust. He also went on to claim that the countries that had won WWII and had settled the Jews in Palestine “created a permanent threat to the region designed to prevent the Middle Eastern Peoples from developing.”
In Egypt, though, things are not looking any better. In an article supporting Hizballah published in the government-backed daily Al-Aharam in mid-August, Sheikh Dr. `Ali Guma`ah, the Mufti of Egypt, restores an old tradition of anti-Semitism popularized during the Middle Ages: The Blood Tales.
“The lies of the ‘Hebrew Entity’ reveal the true, ugly face of bloodsuckers, who prepare matzoth from the blood of human beings,” he writes. “Greetings to the Lebanese People, the Lebanese Government and the Lebanese Resistance, to the beautiful little land which proved to the world that concepts such as determination, courage and self respect still exist in this era taken over by murderers and bloodsuckers”.
Isn`t that a first step towards reforming their erstwhile arrogant & bullying behaviour?
Everyone from the higher civilisations are kicking & spitting upon the United Satans...
Once that happens, we all know what follows.
Any person or nation, once it loses respect & is taunted for all & sundry to see, is always a cleargiveaway that the monster inside him/it has been bloodied & hollowed.
Only a little nudge is needed to see it crumble &collapse.
as the ALLAMA haS said:
``mgar yeh raaz aakhir khuul gayaa saarey zamaaney pUR``..& finally
the best-kept secret was out in the open; the house of Taimoor has lost all sense of selfworth & dignity.
MashaAllah ; the march is on!
Headline NewsThursday, August 31, 2006
by Staff Writer
Yet more anti-Semitism in the Muslim world
Just when you thought you could no longer be surprised by what comes out of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s mouth, comes a disclosure of a letter sent by him to German Chancellor Angela Merkel this week saying that the Holocaust was being exploited by the Jews in order to embarrass Germany.
“I do not wish to research the Holocaust,” writes the Iranian President, “however, it does not make sense that some of the countries that had won in World War II, have created an excuse to place a nation in a permanent state of embarrassment, to weaken its motivation and vitality and to prevents its growth and progress.”
Ahmadinejad, who on more than one occasion had declared that he believed that the Holocaust was nothing more than a historical myth, added that the Germans, like the population of the Middle East and all of humanity are being exploited by the Holocaust. He also went on to claim that the countries that had won WWII and had settled the Jews in Palestine “created a permanent threat to the region designed to prevent the Middle Eastern Peoples from developing.”
In Egypt, though, things are not looking any better. In an article supporting Hizballah published in the government-backed daily Al-Aharam in mid-August, Sheikh Dr. `Ali Guma`ah, the Mufti of Egypt, restores an old tradition of anti-Semitism popularized during the Middle Ages: The Blood Tales.
“The lies of the ‘Hebrew Entity’ reveal the true, ugly face of bloodsuckers, who prepare matzoth from the blood of human beings,” he writes. “Greetings to the Lebanese People, the Lebanese Government and the Lebanese Resistance, to the beautiful little land which proved to the world that concepts such as determination, courage and self respect still exist in this era taken over by murderers and bloodsuckers”.
#126 Posted by Behram1 on September 1, 2006 5:45:53 am
Dear Masadi:
By now it is clearly understood by the vast majority of the world population that the west is as crazy as the rest of them, if not more so. The writer of that article has just narrated some basic facts, and should not be taken as scaring anybody. Why should the vast majority of peace loving and innocent muslims suffer the consequences of the few fascist amongst them? eh!
The effect of this belligerency is also on those of us who look like them. Look at the recent history, and you will understand that the Ottoman Empire was destroyed just 100 years ago, and this is the first opportunity that the west is getting to completely destroy the muslims.
Do you get it? For the love of your coreligionist please get it.
Respectfully submitted,
By now it is clearly understood by the vast majority of the world population that the west is as crazy as the rest of them, if not more so. The writer of that article has just narrated some basic facts, and should not be taken as scaring anybody. Why should the vast majority of peace loving and innocent muslims suffer the consequences of the few fascist amongst them? eh!
The effect of this belligerency is also on those of us who look like them. Look at the recent history, and you will understand that the Ottoman Empire was destroyed just 100 years ago, and this is the first opportunity that the west is getting to completely destroy the muslims.
Do you get it? For the love of your coreligionist please get it.
Respectfully submitted,
#125 Posted by Behram1 on September 1, 2006 5:31:16 am
Re: # 120 by masadi on September 1, 2006 0:43am PT
Dear masadi:
{you`re lost in a totally different period of history, much of it contrived and exaggerated, maybe some coffee will wake you up.}
And the same could be said about you. If only some coffee would wake you up.
What would make you wake up?
Respectfully submitted,
Dear masadi:
{you`re lost in a totally different period of history, much of it contrived and exaggerated, maybe some coffee will wake you up.}
And the same could be said about you. If only some coffee would wake you up.
What would make you wake up?
Respectfully submitted,
#124 Posted by echoboom on September 1, 2006 4:47:35 am
Always very very good news when the enemies of Islam are seen peeing in their pants.
Of course CHINA has said to the U.S:``Shut-up; Be Quiet!``...``You have nothing to teach & preach a great civilisation like China``.
and the farangi bhangis are running helter-skelter looking for their brooms. They, who recently emerged from the dark ages, must never be in a position to be leaders. They must live as subjects of the great civilisations like the Incas & Aztecs in America itself.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16756
The plot of a grade B sci-fi movie put the good guys between two warring groups -- Aliens vs. Predators -- that previously had starring roles in separate movies. Aliens devoured their hosts from within, while Predators used high-tech weapons to kill humanity. Not to press a silly example too far, but it looks like Aliens (fascist Islam) have established a temporary truce with Predators (the leaders of the People’s Liberation Army).
As the sane world watches Iranian leadership develop nukes, world-altering events are in the making. Fanatical Islam has temporarily entered into a marriage of convenience with People’s Republic of China Communist dictators. This is bad. On an intellectual level above a simple movie, the great Irish poet, William Butler Yeats, created lines that will echo throu.................
Of course CHINA has said to the U.S:``Shut-up; Be Quiet!``...``You have nothing to teach & preach a great civilisation like China``.
and the farangi bhangis are running helter-skelter looking for their brooms. They, who recently emerged from the dark ages, must never be in a position to be leaders. They must live as subjects of the great civilisations like the Incas & Aztecs in America itself.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16756
Fanatical Islam`s Marriage to Red China
The plot of a grade B sci-fi movie put the good guys between two warring groups -- Aliens vs. Predators -- that previously had starring roles in separate movies. Aliens devoured their hosts from within, while Predators used high-tech weapons to kill humanity. Not to press a silly example too far, but it looks like Aliens (fascist Islam) have established a temporary truce with Predators (the leaders of the People’s Liberation Army).
As the sane world watches Iranian leadership develop nukes, world-altering events are in the making. Fanatical Islam has temporarily entered into a marriage of convenience with People’s Republic of China Communist dictators. This is bad. On an intellectual level above a simple movie, the great Irish poet, William Butler Yeats, created lines that will echo throu.................
#123 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 4:25:07 am
#104 by Salim_Chauhan re Zeemax #100,
I find your post #100 and its various replications to be despicable.
How and why is it despicable? There isn`t a shade of blood and gore on it and this picture is from rediff.com. If they didn`t find it despicable, how come you do?
On the other hand, the Taliban photo posted by herono on the Bugti board falls in that category. Don`t know how many useless hours he spent to dig it out while it has nothing to do with Pak or its army. Besides, there`s plenty of gore on ogrish.com if one wants.
What you in fact mean to say is that it is too offensive for your Indian friends, which is fine.
Therefore, I shall cease and desist from using that image on FP in accordance with your wishes, and nothing else. However, I cannot guarantee it won`t come out if Pak or Pak army is abused by some indian bigot.
I find your post #100 and its various replications to be despicable.
How and why is it despicable? There isn`t a shade of blood and gore on it and this picture is from rediff.com. If they didn`t find it despicable, how come you do?
On the other hand, the Taliban photo posted by herono on the Bugti board falls in that category. Don`t know how many useless hours he spent to dig it out while it has nothing to do with Pak or its army. Besides, there`s plenty of gore on ogrish.com if one wants.
What you in fact mean to say is that it is too offensive for your Indian friends, which is fine.
Therefore, I shall cease and desist from using that image on FP in accordance with your wishes, and nothing else. However, I cannot guarantee it won`t come out if Pak or Pak army is abused by some indian bigot.
#122 Posted by zeemax on September 1, 2006 3:40:25 am
But, everything said and done, there isn`t much difference between hindians and Taliban as far as beating women is concerned!
Except the difference as stated against each ....
Taliban beating street-walkers with a stick.
Hindians beating medical students with a stick.
Or is there a difference?
Except the difference as stated against each ....
Taliban beating street-walkers with a stick.
Hindians beating medical students with a stick.
Or is there a difference?
#121 Posted by ballukhan on September 1, 2006 1:03:28 am
Re: # 120
``While totally stumped by the facts BS khan now resorts to scare tactics. If I wasn`t a polite person, I`d ask you to shove your threats where the light don`t shine.``
What ``facts`` you point out to?? .......... you talk about unsubstantiated conspiracies and propaganda......I am not ``stumped`` but amused by the stupidity of somebody trying to peddle unsubstantiated theories and statements and trying to pass them off as ``facts``!!!
And remember, now all the ``shoving`` is going to be done by those who know that you belong to the same league as Abu-Hamza ............ a propagandists who is trying to fool the gullible ummah and trying to incite them like a mullah by using the Marxist and Domhoff`s critique of US with his own Islamist world view............
``While totally stumped by the facts BS khan now resorts to scare tactics. If I wasn`t a polite person, I`d ask you to shove your threats where the light don`t shine.``
What ``facts`` you point out to?? .......... you talk about unsubstantiated conspiracies and propaganda......I am not ``stumped`` but amused by the stupidity of somebody trying to peddle unsubstantiated theories and statements and trying to pass them off as ``facts``!!!
And remember, now all the ``shoving`` is going to be done by those who know that you belong to the same league as Abu-Hamza ............ a propagandists who is trying to fool the gullible ummah and trying to incite them like a mullah by using the Marxist and Domhoff`s critique of US with his own Islamist world view............
#120 Posted by masadi on September 1, 2006 12:43:49 am
Re# 119, you`re lost in a totally different period of history, much of it contrived and exaggerated, maybe some coffee will wake you up.
Re #118- you certainly don`t scare me from stating the facts as they are, regardless of how you label those statements. While totally stumped by the facts BS khan now resorts to scare tactics. If I wasn`t a polite person, I`d ask you to shove your threats where the light don`t shine.
Re #118- you certainly don`t scare me from stating the facts as they are, regardless of how you label those statements. While totally stumped by the facts BS khan now resorts to scare tactics. If I wasn`t a polite person, I`d ask you to shove your threats where the light don`t shine.
#119 Posted by sri on September 1, 2006 12:38:43 am
#114 by masadi
`` A totally pathetic attempt to justify the higher terrorism of the higher terrorists by presenting an amnesiac version of history, ``
If I have to go by your idiotic logic then I guess I have to take up arms and wage an eternal war against the highest of terrorists who raped, pillaged and massacared countless hindus on hindu kush ( slaughter of hindus ) mountains.
`` A totally pathetic attempt to justify the higher terrorism of the higher terrorists by presenting an amnesiac version of history, ``
If I have to go by your idiotic logic then I guess I have to take up arms and wage an eternal war against the highest of terrorists who raped, pillaged and massacared countless hindus on hindu kush ( slaughter of hindus ) mountains.
#118 Posted by ballukhan on September 1, 2006 12:24:14 am
Re: # 117
``Those who value freedom and justice never lay down arms before tyrants, if bombs don`t scare them, labels sure as hell wont.``
I am sure you would be certainly watched by the every one to see how much you can abuse the freedom of speech .................. once you are caught trying to incite the ummah towards violence then I am sure you would find yourself rightly sharing the cell with Abu Hamza............
``Those who value freedom and justice never lay down arms before tyrants, if bombs don`t scare them, labels sure as hell wont.``
I am sure you would be certainly watched by the every one to see how much you can abuse the freedom of speech .................. once you are caught trying to incite the ummah towards violence then I am sure you would find yourself rightly sharing the cell with Abu Hamza............
#117 Posted by masadi on September 1, 2006 12:17:56 am
Re #116, you have to position yourself a little better in order to catch the draft from GWB`s fart. Isn`t that the whole purpose behind your meaningless rant and bs? Those who value freedom and justice never lay down arms before tyrants, if bombs don`t scare them, labels sure as hell wont.
#116 Posted by ballukhan on September 1, 2006 12:08:47 am
Re: # 114
``...........trying to scare the opponents to lay down their arms and not fight or they will be annihilated.``
This Conspiracy Theorists obviously means that the author`s warning to Islamists who are strengthening their resolve to nuke US using their brainwashed and drugged terrorists should not be taken into consideration by the Islamic sympathesizers ....................... because if they halt at their violent path they would be ``annihilated`` -
Wow....that`s a real scaremongering.................I have maintained all along that the real puppet masters are these ``intellectual`` conspiracy theorists who pull the strings of the brainwashed youths...........those who create fantastic conspiracy theories to explain the world from the eyes of Islamists.................the world needs to target these terrorist ideologues and supporters first..........look how he is trying to scare those on the path to violence NOT to lay their arms.............he is no less than Abu-Hamza!!!
``...........trying to scare the opponents to lay down their arms and not fight or they will be annihilated.``
This Conspiracy Theorists obviously means that the author`s warning to Islamists who are strengthening their resolve to nuke US using their brainwashed and drugged terrorists should not be taken into consideration by the Islamic sympathesizers ....................... because if they halt at their violent path they would be ``annihilated`` -
Wow....that`s a real scaremongering.................I have maintained all along that the real puppet masters are these ``intellectual`` conspiracy theorists who pull the strings of the brainwashed youths...........those who create fantastic conspiracy theories to explain the world from the eyes of Islamists.................the world needs to target these terrorist ideologues and supporters first..........look how he is trying to scare those on the path to violence NOT to lay their arms.............he is no less than Abu-Hamza!!!
#115 Posted by ballukhan on August 31, 2006 11:42:27 pm
predictable response from a ``Conspiracy Theorist`` ............
LOL!!
LOL!!
#114 Posted by masadi on August 31, 2006 11:14:44 pm
behram`s copy pasted article: <<< At the start of WWII, England fought in a gentlemanly fashion, not hitting until they were first hit and scrupulously confining themselves to military targets. Then Hitler flagrantly violated that covenant by bombing civilian neighborhoods in London and other British cities, with the sole objective of terrorizing the British people. >>>
A totally pathetic attempt to justify the higher terrorism of the higher terrorists by presenting an amnesiac version of history, trying to scare the opponents to lay down their arms and not fight or they will be annhialated. Fantastic attempt at psychological warfare but bs as far as facts go.
Israel`s disproportionate response to the Hizb kidnapping was not related to the kidnapping, just as the Atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not related to Pearl Harbor, just like the British and later US firebombing of German cities was not related to the accidental bombing of a London by a lost German plane crew (which was an exception at the time). Similarly, German use of poison gas in WW1 had little to do with the British using poison gas against the Iraqi Arabs and Kurds in the 1920s and Churchil`s desire to use poison gas against the ``uncivilized`` Afghans? Neither are the Jihadists or the Hizb close to the compatible military strength of the opponents at that time. In fact the whole association of this farcial war on terror by the US with World War 2 or of the opponents with Hitler, is a big farce, a conspiracy to justify unrelated events by association with events that have already been judged morally and so the response is automatic.
And finally, given the disproportion in firepower possessed by the US, the fact that they have been unsuccessful so far should tell everyone that this psychological warfare bs, as reflected by this article, is just that BS.
A totally pathetic attempt to justify the higher terrorism of the higher terrorists by presenting an amnesiac version of history, trying to scare the opponents to lay down their arms and not fight or they will be annhialated. Fantastic attempt at psychological warfare but bs as far as facts go.
Israel`s disproportionate response to the Hizb kidnapping was not related to the kidnapping, just as the Atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not related to Pearl Harbor, just like the British and later US firebombing of German cities was not related to the accidental bombing of a London by a lost German plane crew (which was an exception at the time). Similarly, German use of poison gas in WW1 had little to do with the British using poison gas against the Iraqi Arabs and Kurds in the 1920s and Churchil`s desire to use poison gas against the ``uncivilized`` Afghans? Neither are the Jihadists or the Hizb close to the compatible military strength of the opponents at that time. In fact the whole association of this farcial war on terror by the US with World War 2 or of the opponents with Hitler, is a big farce, a conspiracy to justify unrelated events by association with events that have already been judged morally and so the response is automatic.
And finally, given the disproportion in firepower possessed by the US, the fact that they have been unsuccessful so far should tell everyone that this psychological warfare bs, as reflected by this article, is just that BS.
#113 Posted by khamkhwa on August 31, 2006 9:51:11 pm
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#112 Posted by echoboom on August 31, 2006 8:07:02 pm
Urstruly:111
Could you please narrate that oft-told tale which ends in : `` Hore choobo``.
Could you please narrate that oft-told tale which ends in : `` Hore choobo``.
#111 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 7:42:38 pm
Re: # 107 Behram
Not once but I have repeatedly appealed to them to be nice to other people but if they cannot obey their Prophet`s command then I`m nothing but merely a nobody. There is a saying that ``Khush Ikhlaqi mard ka zewar hay``; one has to be pretty uncouth to not take pride in his own zewar. May Allah show them the right path. I feel pretty bad about their behavior; it takes eons to build bridges but it takes a moment to bring it down.
Not once but I have repeatedly appealed to them to be nice to other people but if they cannot obey their Prophet`s command then I`m nothing but merely a nobody. There is a saying that ``Khush Ikhlaqi mard ka zewar hay``; one has to be pretty uncouth to not take pride in his own zewar. May Allah show them the right path. I feel pretty bad about their behavior; it takes eons to build bridges but it takes a moment to bring it down.
#110 Posted by ballukhan on August 31, 2006 6:51:57 pm
``When the Germans started to use poison gas in WWI, it was regarded by the English and French with numb horror as something unthinkably cruel. But within months, they were using poison gas against the Germans, with improvements of their own. By the end of the war, gas warfare had claimed over a million casualties, many of them German.
At the start of WWII, England fought in a gentlemanly fashion, not hitting until they were first hit and scrupulously confining themselves to military targets. Then Hitler flagrantly violated that covenant by bombing civilian neighborhoods in London and other British cities, with the sole objective of terrorizing the British people. It took a few years but when the Allies had the power to retaliate they used it, bombing German cities with a rather half-hearted regard for whether targets were military or civilian and needlessly annihilating Dresden in what many think was a payback for Coventry. In the end, over ten percent of Germany`s people died in the war``
That is very much true...........and the West is again studying the WWII events much more closely to see what and how Hitler was doing at that time and what reponse got the best results. I agree that Germany went on escalating the limits of agression from Chemical Boms, Gas Falmes to v2-s - and the possibility of the A-Bomb was very much there- and the Allied Forces spent a great amount of discussion and deliberations on whether they should be contering with greater force or not. When they got tired of the $hit from Hitler they decided to go on offensive and counter force with a greater force and that brought appropriate result and the peace we saw for a long time. A continuation of this pre-emption of greater force by the Fascist forces was the use of A Bombs by the Allied forces- We can imagine what would have happened if Hitler or Japs got hold of the A-Bomb during WWII.
Much like German Nazism the threat of Nuclear Terrorism by countries run by mad Ayotollahs and Ulemas is a grave reality- if these mad Aytollahs and Mullahs get hold of A-Bomb technology they would consider it their divinely ordained duty to start the WWIII by sending their brainwashed suicidal maniacs in various Kafirlands.
At the start of WWII, England fought in a gentlemanly fashion, not hitting until they were first hit and scrupulously confining themselves to military targets. Then Hitler flagrantly violated that covenant by bombing civilian neighborhoods in London and other British cities, with the sole objective of terrorizing the British people. It took a few years but when the Allies had the power to retaliate they used it, bombing German cities with a rather half-hearted regard for whether targets were military or civilian and needlessly annihilating Dresden in what many think was a payback for Coventry. In the end, over ten percent of Germany`s people died in the war``
That is very much true...........and the West is again studying the WWII events much more closely to see what and how Hitler was doing at that time and what reponse got the best results. I agree that Germany went on escalating the limits of agression from Chemical Boms, Gas Falmes to v2-s - and the possibility of the A-Bomb was very much there- and the Allied Forces spent a great amount of discussion and deliberations on whether they should be contering with greater force or not. When they got tired of the $hit from Hitler they decided to go on offensive and counter force with a greater force and that brought appropriate result and the peace we saw for a long time. A continuation of this pre-emption of greater force by the Fascist forces was the use of A Bombs by the Allied forces- We can imagine what would have happened if Hitler or Japs got hold of the A-Bomb during WWII.
Much like German Nazism the threat of Nuclear Terrorism by countries run by mad Ayotollahs and Ulemas is a grave reality- if these mad Aytollahs and Mullahs get hold of A-Bomb technology they would consider it their divinely ordained duty to start the WWIII by sending their brainwashed suicidal maniacs in various Kafirlands.
#109 Posted by stuka on August 31, 2006 5:38:51 pm
Chaltoo:
``remember Stuka is arab wanna be Indian code jockey longing for chakwalistan or some other mythical land. :-)
``
Longing for Chakwalistan is okay...but Arab wannabe and a Code Jockey? See, that`s unfair becoz u know that neither is true. I barely passed the most basic programming class I ever took..Visual Basic 101 and could not write code to save my life...and I can`t stand Arabs, but that does not take away from my disgust with the Yahoods.
``remember Stuka is arab wanna be Indian code jockey longing for chakwalistan or some other mythical land. :-)
``
Longing for Chakwalistan is okay...but Arab wannabe and a Code Jockey? See, that`s unfair becoz u know that neither is true. I barely passed the most basic programming class I ever took..Visual Basic 101 and could not write code to save my life...and I can`t stand Arabs, but that does not take away from my disgust with the Yahoods.
#108 Posted by Behram1 on August 31, 2006 5:31:13 pm
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#107 Posted by Behram1 on August 31, 2006 5:14:53 pm
Re: # 98
Dear Urstruly:
I have found you to be the one of the few respectable interactors on this chowk. By your postings, you show to be a person who has a solid moral character. Thank you educating your values to those of us who may not share your values.
From time to time I read some of your coreligionist posted items that are outside the boundaries of generally accepted decency of modern times and values. Could it be possible for you to intervene in advising these lost souls?
Respectfully submitted,
Dear Urstruly:
I have found you to be the one of the few respectable interactors on this chowk. By your postings, you show to be a person who has a solid moral character. Thank you educating your values to those of us who may not share your values.
From time to time I read some of your coreligionist posted items that are outside the boundaries of generally accepted decency of modern times and values. Could it be possible for you to intervene in advising these lost souls?
Respectfully submitted,
#106 Posted by Behram1 on August 31, 2006 5:01:10 pm
Re: # 100
Zeemax:
What sort a person are you? Don`t you have any shame? You are showing disrespect to a dead human being. This is ``basharmi`` and ``behoodgi.`` And once you claimed, on some other board, that you are a parent who educates his children the right parental value? Is this the kind of value your kid is learning to grow up with?
Zeemax:
What sort a person are you? Don`t you have any shame? You are showing disrespect to a dead human being. This is ``basharmi`` and ``behoodgi.`` And once you claimed, on some other board, that you are a parent who educates his children the right parental value? Is this the kind of value your kid is learning to grow up with?
#105 Posted by echoboom on August 31, 2006 4:18:36 pm
#104 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 31, 2006 1:36:24 pm
Zeemax #100,
Zee, my friend.
I find your post #100 and its various replications to be despicable. I have already expressed my views concerning the unfortunate dead Indian soldier. While we may not know the person or the reasons for his condition, it is sad enough that there are so-called human beings, such as the ones carrying the dead soldier, who have the need to disrespect and humiliate the human body. Why must you use the sufferings of the victims and the brutality of the depraved ones to score any dubious points on Chowk? Please reconsider your action - I know that you are much better than that. Thanks.
Zee, my friend.
I find your post #100 and its various replications to be despicable. I have already expressed my views concerning the unfortunate dead Indian soldier. While we may not know the person or the reasons for his condition, it is sad enough that there are so-called human beings, such as the ones carrying the dead soldier, who have the need to disrespect and humiliate the human body. Why must you use the sufferings of the victims and the brutality of the depraved ones to score any dubious points on Chowk? Please reconsider your action - I know that you are much better than that. Thanks.
#103 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 11:00:35 am
urstruly #98 I already posted that news item. and posting cartoons from the internet in response to that news item indicates you would rather ignore the reality that news item indicates.
reflect upon the news item. dont ignore it. for your own benefit.
reflect upon the news item. dont ignore it. for your own benefit.
#102 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 10:56:38 am
#100 zeemax: a true sign of a subhuman kafir - gloating over the body of a dead man.
#101 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 10:54:28 am
#97 zeemax: ``stinks again ......uff ...``
as the dung beetle said...after receiving a dose of pesticide.
as the dung beetle said...after receiving a dose of pesticide.
#100 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 10:08:03 am
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#99 Posted by ShoreSahib on August 31, 2006 10:06:09 am
What purpose is to memorize the damn Quran
Do we not have books to write on
DO we not have paper
DO we not have Ink
DO we not have TAblets
Do we not have Parchment...
DO we not have Other things to write on......
Why did he need to memorize the Quran
Why was the young boy subjected to the Mullahs
and their Pedophilia
because probably his father is a pedophile too.....
very very NAMBLA>>>>>>>
But Pakistani Style...done in mosques........
My best friend in Pakistan ....was the Hafiz ....Lived at 316 Sector A-1 Township Lahore.....
Very very nice guy........but a Hafiz...His father had sent him to Pirs and Murids and all other sorts of men......
Omar From Sargodha.....God I would love to marry him......
He is built like an Indian God.......
Never ever violated me.....RAther loved me..... Kissed me....Hugged me........what a truly nice man.......
Do we not have books to write on
DO we not have paper
DO we not have Ink
DO we not have TAblets
Do we not have Parchment...
DO we not have Other things to write on......
Why did he need to memorize the Quran
Why was the young boy subjected to the Mullahs
and their Pedophilia
because probably his father is a pedophile too.....
very very NAMBLA>>>>>>>
But Pakistani Style...done in mosques........
My best friend in Pakistan ....was the Hafiz ....Lived at 316 Sector A-1 Township Lahore.....
Very very nice guy........but a Hafiz...His father had sent him to Pirs and Murids and all other sorts of men......
Omar From Sargodha.....God I would love to marry him......
He is built like an Indian God.......
Never ever violated me.....RAther loved me..... Kissed me....Hugged me........what a truly nice man.......
#98 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 9:46:13 am
New Report:
Pakistani-American teenager, father barred from U.S.
LOS ANGELES, Aug 30 (Reuters) A Pakistani-American born in the United States said on Wednesday he has been barred from re-entering the country apparently because he chose a close relative who was convicted of a terrorism-related crime in April in the emergency contact portion of his U.S. passport. Jaber Ismail, 18, arrived in Pakistan with his 45-year-old father, Muhammed, nearly five years ago to study and memorize the holy Quran. He completed that task and tried to return but U.S. Customs officials at the Hong Kong airport told the father and son, ``your passports aren`t in the system. You have no record in the U.S.``. Jamil: ``I said, `I am a U.S. citizen. I was born there.` I showed them my birth certificate, my school ID. They wouldn`t listen.`` He said FBI agents in Islamabad told him that he and his father would be denied entry into the United States unless they submitted to more questioning and a lie detector test. ``I was at a mosque. I was memorizing the Quran because it was important to my mom,`` Ismail said. ``I want to go home and finish high school and get a good job.``(Posted @ 09:50 PST)
A US border agent screening passengers at an airport with latest hi-tech equipment
#97 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 9:41:55 am
No the qadiani is too dheet ... stinks again ......uff ...
#96 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 9:24:07 am
khamkhwa #81 You are quite right here. And as a result, chowk is heading nowhere.
#95 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 9:23:03 am
#80 I dont agree with things you write about all musims, but your comments on these arab worshippers on chowk are accurate.
#94 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 9:22:57 am
#80 I dont agree with things you write about all musims, but your comments on these arab worshippers on chowk are accurate.
#93 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 9:20:19 am
#90 ``smells good in here``
as the dung beetle said....
as the dung beetle said....
#91 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 9:12:52 am
Urstruly,
``Bh.. di ph... paisay kharchay hoay naiN``.
LoL ...
``Bh.. di ph... paisay kharchay hoay naiN``.
LoL ...
#89 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 9:01:45 am
Re: # 79
`` Well one can badmouth amreeka & (one should never shirk from that) and still try to take all advantage from it. What the hell is wrong with that. ``
Exactly. That is the spirit. All that money and their effluence in fact belongs to us. They stole it from us. It is our blood and our sweat.
Your post reminds of a common habit of movie goers in Pakistan (especially Punjab). When spectators don`t like the movei they tear the seats apart saying ``Bh.. di ph... paisay kharchay hoay naiN``.
`` Well one can badmouth amreeka & (one should never shirk from that) and still try to take all advantage from it. What the hell is wrong with that. ``
Exactly. That is the spirit. All that money and their effluence in fact belongs to us. They stole it from us. It is our blood and our sweat.
Your post reminds of a common habit of movie goers in Pakistan (especially Punjab). When spectators don`t like the movei they tear the seats apart saying ``Bh.. di ph... paisay kharchay hoay naiN``.
#87 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 8:58:37 am
Urstruly #84 and dont lie about my sending a laanat on muslims - you know better than that too after all these years on chowk. HIndu extremists on chowk hate me more than muslim extremists. Because while you live up to the image of the muslim that they ridicule - I present the other side of Islam. The religion of dignity and peace.
#86 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 8:55:47 am
Re: # 85
That is what I thought. I don`t have anything more to say on this topic. Thank you.
That is what I thought. I don`t have anything more to say on this topic. Thank you.
#85 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 8:53:49 am
#84 Mr Urstruly: you write The word Quadiani is a blanket term
Now you chose to hide under a blanket. You wont understand this - but as a muslim I dont need to below to any group - the lahori group or the pashowri group.
Now you chose to hide under a blanket. You wont understand this - but as a muslim I dont need to below to any group - the lahori group or the pashowri group.
#84 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 8:50:34 am
Re: # 78
The word Quadiani is a blanket term, and I do not like to address Mirzais as Ahmadis because this word alludes to a relationship with our Prophet Mohammad (pbuh); Ahmad being his second name. I called yuo Quadiani because it is a well known adjective as compared to Lahori. I have long suspected that you belong to Lahori group of Mirzais and I made it know to you in the past.
There is very simple procedure to prove that you are none of these. It is by sending la`anat upon all Quadianis, Lahoris, and Mirza. Shouldn`t be a problem for you, since you have been sending la`anat upon Muslims almost everyday after breakfast.
The word Quadiani is a blanket term, and I do not like to address Mirzais as Ahmadis because this word alludes to a relationship with our Prophet Mohammad (pbuh); Ahmad being his second name. I called yuo Quadiani because it is a well known adjective as compared to Lahori. I have long suspected that you belong to Lahori group of Mirzais and I made it know to you in the past.
There is very simple procedure to prove that you are none of these. It is by sending la`anat upon all Quadianis, Lahoris, and Mirza. Shouldn`t be a problem for you, since you have been sending la`anat upon Muslims almost everyday after breakfast.
#83 Posted by Kulharee on August 31, 2006 8:49:46 am
Re: # 79
You can pull your pants up now, and by the way Kanjar caste is mostly Shia, and the rest Suuni (it’s 60/40). They are decent people and make their living honestly and don’t feel a need to suck up on Wahabi oil pipe. So if you are somehow trying to use Kanjar as an insult, it isn’t working.
You can pull your pants up now, and by the way Kanjar caste is mostly Shia, and the rest Suuni (it’s 60/40). They are decent people and make their living honestly and don’t feel a need to suck up on Wahabi oil pipe. So if you are somehow trying to use Kanjar as an insult, it isn’t working.
#82 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 8:45:44 am
Kulharee #74 Good question. This is an example of the confused thinking of these individuals who come to the west and instead of trying to see anything good here choose to put down the culture of the community they chose to live in while glorifying their ``islamic culture`` of the culture they escaped from. These individuals want it both ways.
#81 Posted by khamkhwa on August 31, 2006 8:44:54 am
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#80 Posted by wiseguyin on August 31, 2006 8:42:14 am
Re: # 72
Let me reformat ...
The news item says: ``I was memorizing the Quran because it was important to my mom,`` Ismail said.
Maybe not to Arab goo-chaaters, but to humans ... this looks quite like an attempt at shifting responsibility. Also known as blaming .....
Let me reformat ...
The news item says: ``I was memorizing the Quran because it was important to my mom,`` Ismail said.
Maybe not to Arab goo-chaaters, but to humans ... this looks quite like an attempt at shifting responsibility. Also known as blaming .....
#79 Posted by echoboom on August 31, 2006 8:41:09 am
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#78 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 8:40:45 am
Mr Urstruly: You call me a Quadiani. You know my religious views better than that after all these years on chowk.
Is lying the only way left for you to hide from the reality that I presented in my post below?
zeemax: writing filth and abuse as usual.
Is lying the only way left for you to hide from the reality that I presented in my post below?
zeemax: writing filth and abuse as usual.
#77 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 31, 2006 8:26:00 am
#54, Stuka {``Israel today occupies the moral authority of Apartheid South Africa, and just as that apartheid regime had its apologists, the state of Israel has its own.``}
Stuka,
I admire your ability to see through the smokescreen of double standards. Thank you for your objectivity. :) It`s obvious that you don`t suffer from the herd mentality afflicting so many desis obsessed with the need to be more Baptist than Pat Robertson.
Stuka,
I admire your ability to see through the smokescreen of double standards. Thank you for your objectivity. :) It`s obvious that you don`t suffer from the herd mentality afflicting so many desis obsessed with the need to be more Baptist than Pat Robertson.
#76 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 8:24:33 am
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#75 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 8:17:06 am
Re: # 74
I think the important thing is to find out why his entry was denied into US; whether it was due to his ``religious preferences`` or his ``national origin`` (or that of his parents`).
I think the important thing is to find out why his entry was denied into US; whether it was due to his ``religious preferences`` or his ``national origin`` (or that of his parents`).
#74 Posted by Kulharee on August 31, 2006 8:09:57 am
Re: # 73
Are you suggesting that he went to Pakistan only because his parents are from there? Because Quran can be memorized even while living on the north pole. Where his parents are from is totally irrelevant. So which one is it?
Are you suggesting that he went to Pakistan only because his parents are from there? Because Quran can be memorized even while living on the north pole. Where his parents are from is totally irrelevant. So which one is it?
#73 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 7:37:37 am
Re: # 71
It appears to me from the news report that the guy or his parents are not Dutch citizens or have any connection with holland but rather his parents are originally from Pakistan. I suggest that you rephrase your question as ``but why did the (epithet) had to memorize Quran?``
It appears to me from the news report that the guy or his parents are not Dutch citizens or have any connection with holland but rather his parents are originally from Pakistan. I suggest that you rephrase your question as ``but why did the (epithet) had to memorize Quran?``
#72 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 7:35:21 am
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#71 Posted by Kulharee on August 31, 2006 7:28:04 am
Re: # 70
Urstruly, what you expect or don’t is not really that important (because you know why), but why did the joker had to go to Pakistan to memorize Quran? Why not Amsterdam?
Urstruly, what you expect or don’t is not really that important (because you know why), but why did the joker had to go to Pakistan to memorize Quran? Why not Amsterdam?
#70 Posted by Urstruly on August 31, 2006 7:24:07 am
Re: # 69
And even more so how does Mr. tahmad know that this particualr man has been badmouthing America.
I don`t expect any decency from Quadinis, whose very religion is based on blatant and shameless distortion.
And even more so how does Mr. tahmad know that this particualr man has been badmouthing America.
I don`t expect any decency from Quadinis, whose very religion is based on blatant and shameless distortion.
#69 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 6:55:06 am
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#68 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 6:43:33 am
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#67 Posted by chaltahai on August 31, 2006 6:41:50 am
Re: # 59: No No Sri..such things are not really topics to be discussed. remember Stuka is arab wanna be Indian code jockey longing for chakwalistan or some other mythical land. :-)
Here is a nugget...if the Jews had the oil istead of the arabs...imagine all the conspiracy theories. Stuka, now that you are in californayai..make sure you visit Redstone (now that muslim Cruise has been dumped) and see if they can finance your long awaited wish for a feature length ``Elders of Zion``.
Here is a nugget...if the Jews had the oil istead of the arabs...imagine all the conspiracy theories. Stuka, now that you are in californayai..make sure you visit Redstone (now that muslim Cruise has been dumped) and see if they can finance your long awaited wish for a feature length ``Elders of Zion``.
#66 Posted by tahmed32 on August 31, 2006 6:25:50 am
Interesting news item in Dawn. Notice the sudden interest in opportunities for education and jobs in the US and blaming his mother for putting him on this ``Islam`` route!! Typical example of the characterless ``Islamists`` of Pakistan - they spit on the US as long as they feel safe and protected by US laws. When given the chance to put their money where their mouth is, they suddenly change their tune. US courts will probably let this man back into the US in due course - but the truth of the ``Islam`` of these arab worshippers is obvious from this news item.
Pakistani-American teenager, father barred from U.S.
LOS ANGELES, Aug 30 (Reuters) A Pakistani-American born in the United States said on Wednesday he has been barred from re-entering the country apparently because he chose a close relative who was convicted of a terrorism-related crime in April in the emergency contact portion of his U.S. passport. Jaber Ismail, 18, arrived in Pakistan with his 45-year-old father, Muhammed, nearly five years ago to study and memorize the holy Quran. He completed that task and tried to return but U.S. Customs officials at the Hong Kong airport told the father and son, ``your passports aren`t in the system. You have no record in the U.S.``. Jamil: ``I said, `I am a U.S. citizen. I was born there.` I showed them my birth certificate, my school ID. They wouldn`t listen.`` He said FBI agents in Islamabad told him that he and his father would be denied entry into the United States unless they submitted to more questioning and a lie detector test. ``I was at a mosque. I was memorizing the Quran because it was important to my mom,`` Ismail said. ``I want to go home and finish high school and get a good job.``(Posted @ 09:50 PST)
Pakistani-American teenager, father barred from U.S.
LOS ANGELES, Aug 30 (Reuters) A Pakistani-American born in the United States said on Wednesday he has been barred from re-entering the country apparently because he chose a close relative who was convicted of a terrorism-related crime in April in the emergency contact portion of his U.S. passport. Jaber Ismail, 18, arrived in Pakistan with his 45-year-old father, Muhammed, nearly five years ago to study and memorize the holy Quran. He completed that task and tried to return but U.S. Customs officials at the Hong Kong airport told the father and son, ``your passports aren`t in the system. You have no record in the U.S.``. Jamil: ``I said, `I am a U.S. citizen. I was born there.` I showed them my birth certificate, my school ID. They wouldn`t listen.`` He said FBI agents in Islamabad told him that he and his father would be denied entry into the United States unless they submitted to more questioning and a lie detector test. ``I was at a mosque. I was memorizing the Quran because it was important to my mom,`` Ismail said. ``I want to go home and finish high school and get a good job.``(Posted @ 09:50 PST)
#65 Posted by ballukhan on August 31, 2006 4:24:37 am
Re: # 64
This man is actually threatening his people into submission............he is high on his anti-US rhetoric and like a dog thinks that he is stronger than the elephant he is barking at.......
This man is actually threatening his people into submission............he is high on his anti-US rhetoric and like a dog thinks that he is stronger than the elephant he is barking at.......
#64 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 3:11:52 am
``The Iranian nation will not accept for one moment any bullying, invasion and violation of its rights``
#63 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 1:46:46 am
#61 by IamNadia
Nature is still worthy in the country and music is still a form of art and opera, theatre and literature are still alive there.
Good point. Iran is the only Islamic country whose art films regularly win awards at Cannes.
Nature is still worthy in the country and music is still a form of art and opera, theatre and literature are still alive there.
Good point. Iran is the only Islamic country whose art films regularly win awards at Cannes.
#62 Posted by ballukhan on August 31, 2006 1:34:55 am
Re: # 58
Calling Ahmedinejad a lowly Ayotollah licking dog should infact gladden the hearts of the Islamists.................surprising that they take it as an affront!!
Calling Ahmedinejad a lowly Ayotollah licking dog should infact gladden the hearts of the Islamists.................surprising that they take it as an affront!!
#61 Posted by IamNadia on August 31, 2006 1:02:42 am
Somehow I feel that writer has unmistakably written such week article to get the interest of Islamic like minded folks. Awareness, society, respect, history and heritage if the author argues then it still prevails in Iran in this century and this era. Saadi is still quoted and Roustam and Sohrab are still narrated in Iranian text books and kids from any street knows about. Its here in Pakistan that these chapters that are somehow belong from Iranian literature are eliminated. Nature is still worthy in the country and music is still a form of art and opera, theatre and literature are still alive there.
Ahmedi is true in denying the event that never had such mass figures of disaster and we look around the Bengal Holocaust is an appropriate subset of the famous Denial making them relatively equally important. But Pakistani side of barbarities is always hid and world has no ethical view on this catastrophe. Thus fake reasoning cannot be established to start war and killing of innocent people of Iran again and again.
Bush has no courage and mind left to have debate with the overpowering and factual thoughts of Nijad which are truth of planet nowadays.
Its just adjusting the right figures and freedom to express truth in all its forms and shapes.
#60 Posted by zeemax on August 31, 2006 1:02:00 am