Saving Pakistan with the Constitution

I think the comprison with 1971 is 100% valid -- one Army General Yahya cut the Eastern wing of Pakistan -- with the imbecile atrocious assassination of Bugti -- another General Son of Yahya has cut the Western wing of Pakistan -- turning Pakistan into a flightless Dodo bird.

Mushrraf does not comprehend the monstrosity of the crime HE HAS COMMITTED -- he has been badly badly served by a killer cabal of monstrously stupid sycophant assassins working as `advisors` for whom solutions to complex regional constitutional problems is a simple targetd assassination.

In their imbecile minds they still regret why didn`t they assassinate Mujib to prevent the break up of East Pakistan...!

``A comparison of the current situation in Balochistan with that of East Pakistan in the 1970s is, indeed, inappropriate and infuriates our military strategists and Islamic ideologists. But such a comparison is hard to resist and is being made every day.

The people who make this comparison may not matter very much but they should not be dismissed as alarmists either. The last to be dismissed should be Nawab Khair Bux Marri, the most senior and venerable of the Baloch sardars. He has broken his long silence only to declare that Balochistan is an independent territory; it never was nor is now a part of Pakistan.

The Marri sardar’s statement should cause greater worry to the generals and ideologists than the revolt of the Bugtis and the death of their leader in the mountains while fighting against the troops and gunships.

It was a mistake to assume that the oppressed Bugti folk would celebrate the Nawab’s death and that people elsewhere would initially protest but then acquiesce.

It would be a bigger mistake if the authorities were to treat the Marri leader’s denunciation of Pakistan as the ravings of a senile man. That he may be, but if there was no movement for an independent Balochistan previously, Akbar Bugti’s death and Khair Bux Marri’s declaration have now given birth to it.``(Kunwar Idris in DAWN)

Provincial Autonomy is very important for the federation like pakistan where atleast four different nations exist with their own cultural and traditional identities and historical backgrounds so that the people have control on their own resources and they have no apprehension to be turned into a minority in their own region. The message, which `Bugti Incident`, conveys is very clear that there s no rule of law or `role of law` today in pakistan. The Demands for lawful rights r not heard and resultantly if they turn into a forceful agitation r dealt with military operations, no role of law enforcement agencies and no opportunity of fair trial..might s right n survial of the fittest..in these set of circumstances `seperation` is not a bad option bcoz the welfare of the people should always b the ultimate object and if thats not possible within united pakistan one rightly goes for seperation specially whn a province is mere legally (dejure) part of the federation and not the defacto, whn law enforcement agencies has nothing to do n the militray operations r the sole answer where establishment of military cantonments r thoguht necessary for having control.... I dont know y should one keep dreaming about the united pakistan ignoring the ground realities.

#121 by Naqshbandi on September 8, 2006 3:27pm PT
naqsh
things may be bad in UK with regard to discrimination, but unfortunately they are worst in sweden.

STOCKHOLM, September 9 – Many Muslims and immigrants, feeling the pinch of an evident racial discrimination in job recruitment in Sweden, have changed their names to make a living in the European country, said a report by a mass-circulation daily.
Dagens Nyheter published a detailed report on September 6-7, on how many Swedish citizens had to replace their Arabic or Islamic names with Swedish ones in order to conceal their racial or religious identity – all in the hope of securing a job.
Boyan Asghari, an Iranian, went for Steven Sandneil, Mohamed opted for Anderson – a typical common Swedish name – and Khaled chose to call himself Stevenson.
``I had to do this to find a job. For the Swedish labor market is discriminatory toward Arabs and Muslims,`` Anna, formerly Amani, told the Swedish daily.
Field Survey
The paper carried out a field survey on the job search mechanism and selection, and whether the process is discriminatory against those of Arab and Muslim origins.
Four Swedish citizens, two from Swedish origins and two others hailing from Arab or Muslim origins with Arabic names, were assigned to contact employers for filling same vacancies.
Applicants from Swedish origins got the jobs instantly, while the other two with Arabic names were not that lucky, the results revealed.
According to the Swedish civil affairs department estimates, dozens of Arabs and Muslims in Sweden had applied to change their names during the second half of 2003, in an effort to snatch a job opportunity.
Changing names in Sweden is a common procedure, available to any one. You just need to fill in a form.
Second-Class Treatment
Many social institutions in Stockholm have also been receiving complaints from several Arabs and Muslims as they were sacked from jobs or their job applications were turned down.
Sweden is home to 400,000 Muslim strong community, many have reportedly faced discriminatory practices due to their Arab or Muslim origins since the September 11 attacks on Washington and New York .
The government do well realize the extent of the racial discrimination against Arabs and Muslims in job-recruitment issues.
Minister of Democracy and Minority Integration Issues Mona Sahlin had said the government has spent millions of coronas for convincing the Swedish citizens to be more open to the immigrant communities in the country.
The Swedish daily agreed, saying that Arabs and Muslims in Sweden are receiving a second-class treatment, making them increasingly dependable on the financial assistance from social affairs institutions.
Further, these institutions ask those getting the aid to carry out such lower-wage jobs, such as cleaning services.
Swedish newspapers have recently put at one million the number of those getting social aid all across the country.

#135 Nasah

Thank you for not pinning THIS ONE on GWB!

Ya Ellahi -- killing of Bugti was totally unnecessary and uncalled for -- as the killing of Musharraf would be totally unnecessary and uncalled for.........please.

Of course Baloch Sardars are scoundrels -- and of course the self imposed non Baloch army Sardars are scoundrels as well -- but killing them by smart bombs or by dumb bombs -- is/will be the craziest -- the most stupid thing to do -- either for a Dictator -- or the ``humjins`` Sardar........for a country`s long-term peace harmony and stability......period.

Bugti was no Nek Mohammed and he did NOT deserve to die like one......

Traitors¡¯ Atrocities Against Humanity in Balochistan

http://firstpakistan.wordpress.com/

On August 26th, 2006 the traitor Akbar Bugti was finally hunted down in mountains of Kohlo and was killed like a dog. Akbar Bugti first killed a person when he was just 12 years old and uptill his death he killed nearly 60 persons with his own hands.

During recent days he was getting support from India via Afghanistan in the form of weapons and money to wage war against Pakistan.


Now soon Khair Bakhsh Marri and Attaullah Mengal and Akthar Mengal will be killed and then Balochistan will be on a fast track to progress and justice.

The killing of these traitors is doing justice and giving justice to those people who suffered heavily from the hands of these animals.

Below is a list of atrocities committed by these traitors against Pakistan and against Pakistani people and especially against people of Balochistan.

Balochistan is characterised with complex socio-political culture having strong feudal background and oppressive domination by few tribal chieftains.

Akbar Bugti, Khair Bakhsh Marri and Attaullah Mengal are the most prominent of these having terrorist outlook and traitors of Pakistan.

These so called Nawabs and Sardars have always opposed the development and spread of liberal values in Balochistan. They resorted to coercive and oppressive means against their opponents with no heed to any human rights. They have been using terrorism for continuation of Sardari system and have committed limitless atrocities against innocent civilians for furtherance of their own interests.

Some of the details of atrocities/terrorist activities by these Sardars are given in succeeding paragraphs.

Terrorist activities of Akbar Bugti and his associates

Human Rights Violations ¡ª Akbar Bugti utilising the money collected through illegal means (corruption, blackmailing, narco-trade and arms smuggling etc) created his own empire. He organised his own mafia of terrorists to coerce the local civilians. Maintained a private jail where he used to detain the opponents and poor people illegally for terms varying between 5 to 25 years. Average strength of prisoners in his jail used to be 150-200. He had his own court in Dera Bugti where he was the self appointed judge.

During court proceedings he used to award humiliating punishments like shaving off head and facial hair, making people stand naked in public and ordering them to walk on fire.

Some of the punishments awarded by him are:

Wadera Dhara Khan who refused to join Bugti¡¯s terrorist organisation was made to stand naked in public.

Wadera Mian Khan was made to walk on fire in September 2005, and also fined heavily. 25 other persons were also forced to walk on fire.

Due to inhuman treatment, Jamali s/o Gulla committed

suicide in Akbar Bugti¡¯s private jail.

57 persons were ordered to shave off their heads, facial hair, including eyebrows.

Defiance to Akbar Bugti¡¯s orders resulted in burning of six villages.

30 houses demolished by Akbar Bugti¡¯s terrorists.

Akbar Bugti used to impose fine of Rs. 5 lacs. 10 lashes and imprisonment in private jail for joining Frontier Corps/Army.

5 women indemnified as compensation in 2005.

300 Kalashnikovs/50,000 rounds received as compensation in 2005.

Wadera Muhammad Bakhsh Mundrani was fined Rupees 4 million and his brother Mian Khan Mundrani was made to walk on fire.

70 persons fined for various offences.

Approximately Rs 10 millions collected as fine from tribes every year. Heavy amounts collected as fines were spent for terrorism.

Murders ¡ª Since 1992, 60 persons have been murdered by Akbar Bugti and his terrorists. Some of the prominent cases are:

Amir Hamza Bugti who announced to contest elections against Akbar Bugti in 1988, was murdered by him during 1992.

Haji Han Bugti was murdered on October 10, 1993.

Muhammad Ibrahim Bugti was murdered in Karachi on March 4, 1993.

Asadullah Bugti was murdered in Karachi by Akbar Bugti¡¯s son Jamil Bugti who remains at large due to Akbar Bugti¡¯s influence.

Wadera Bashirullah Bugti, Aslam Bugti and Muhammad Ramzan were brutally murdered on March 15, 1993.

Ali Bugti and Sher Ali Bugti, relatives of Wadera Khan Muahmmad Bugti were murdered on July 11, 1993.

Ali Dost Bugti was murdered in Pat Feeder Canal area on July 23, 1993.

Munir Ahmed Bugti, Aziz Ali Bakhsh, Hassan Bugti and Nazar Ali Bugti were murdered in Karachi on July 14, 1993.

On December 13, 2005, Hazar s/o Peer Muhammad was killed by Akbar Bugti¡¯s terrorists, at Siah Koh.

Sabotage Activities ¡ª Countless incidents of sabotage have been committed by Akbar Bugti and his terrorists. Apprehended Bugti terrorists confessed their involvement in Karachi bomb blast of November 15, 2005. 339 individuals (including 110 security forces personnel) have been killed and 870 injured due to terrorists activities since January 2004. They targeted government installations, communication infrastructures and national assets. 45 attacks on railway installations carried out since January 2005. Gas Pipelines hit at 46 places since March 2005, 26 electric pylons were damaged.

Land Mine Incidents ¡ª A large number of land mines have been laid in Dera Bugti by Akbar Bugti¡¯s terrorists, in a blatant violation of human rights as per Geneva Conventions. So far 80 persons have lost their lives, 109 have lost their limbs and 21 vehicles have been damaged due to mine blasts.

Terrorist activities against law-enforcement agencies

In October 2005, Moharrar Thana Levies Rahim Bux was abducted and tortured for many days in Akbar Bugti¡¯s Fort for not paying salaries to the Bugti Levies, who remained absent from duty for many years.

In July 2005, terrorists abducted three Police personnel between Phuleji and Chattar. Later one constable was killed. Five policemen were also abducted from Shang Pir Soori Darbar.

In December 2003, Khuda Yar was abducted by terrorists near PPL gate. Akbar Bugti confessed to Ch Shujaat and Mushahid Hussain of his detention in his private jail.

Terrorist Activities of Khair Bakhsh Marri/Balaach Marri, Hayerbiar Marri, Ghazain Marri and Zamran Marri

Human rights violations ¡ª Human rights violations are a routine affair in district Kohlu where law of jungle prevails at the behest of Khair Bakhsh Marri and his sons.

Terrorist/sabotage activities ¡ª Since 2004, Marri terrorists killed four Frontier Corps (FC) personnel, three civilians, injured 15 FC personnel, three civilians.

Two FC personnel were abducted while many PTCL towers and electric pylons were damaged.

22 rocket attacks against railways perpetrated.

Abductions ¡ª During 2005, four persons were abducted for ransom on behest of Balaach Marri. . Land Grabbing ¡ª Illegally occupied agriculture land of Langhani/Loharani/Ghazini tribes in District Sibi.

Deprived Ayaz son of Mir Qaisar Khan Ghazini, (nephew of Khair Bakhsh Marri) of his agricultural land in Kahan and forced him to migrate to D G Khan.

Anti-development activities

In the mid 1990s electricity and mettled road from Kahan to Sibi was sanctioned but work could not be completed due to KB Marri¡¯s opposition.

Out of 47 schools, only one is functional at Kahan.

Rural health centers/basic health units are in personal use of Marri¡¯s terrorists.

30 police personnel posted to Kohlu were performing duties as guards with Balaach Marri to avoid his wrath.

Nine Seismic Surveys and construction of road Gwadar-Turbat-Ratto Dero and Fazal Chel-Maiwand-Talli are held up due to opposition of Khair Bakhsh Marri.

Hindrance in mega development projects:

Attack on Chinese at Gwadar on May 3, 2004 killing three Chinese, injuring five Chinese and two Pakistanis.

Attack on Chinese on October 15, 2005 near Talar Camp, injuring driver of the vehicle.

Anti-settlers drive: 27 incidents of explosions/bombs blasts, 11 processions/rallies, 30 meetings, nine incidents of distribution of pamphlets, three abductions and damage to property are on record.

Anti-coal mining activities: Chamalang coal mines have been a major irritant amongst sub-clans of Marri tribe and have remained closed due to coercion of Balaach.

During 2005, coalmines in Quetta, Harnai, Mach and Sibi areas were occupied by Marri terrorists and owners were forced to pay ¡®Bhatta¡¯.

Dilband Iron Ore/Bolan Mining Company destroyed in November 2005, rendering hundreds of labourers un-employed.

Terrorist activities by Akhtar Mengal and his associates

In August 2004, six persons (including five Army men) were murdered by Akhtar Mengal¡¯s gang.

There are number of FIRs against Akhtar Mengal for threatening the police officials eg in April 2005, Akhtar Jan Mengal and his terrorists manhandled Hub SHO for not releasing arrested BNP-M workers.

In October 2005, Akhtar Jan Mengal attempted forcible closure of shops in Wadh, with the assistance of his nephew Asad Mengal. Reportedly shopkeepers did not support BNP-M during the local government elections, during the incident one person was killed and three were injured.

Akhtar Jan Mengal in collaboration with Rehman Dacoit has been coordinating (Balochistan Liberation Army) BLA¡¯s activities. Rehman Dacoit was closely associated with Atta Irani who facilitates smuggling of arms/Ammunition for BLA.

Bomb Explosion: In 2004 139 incidents, 61 killed and 175 injured; in 2005 89 killed and 221 injured in 70 incidents; in 2006 169 dead and 535 hurt in 29 incidents.

Mine Blasts: In 2004, three killed and two injured in 17 incidents; in 2005 one injured in two incidents; in 2006 83 dead and 118 hurt in 79 incidents.

Rockets firing: In 2004, two killed and eight injured in 131 incidents; in 2005 three killed and 58 injured in 103 incidents; in 2006 four dead and 27 hurt in 138 incidents.

Attacks on security personnel: In 2004, 41 killed and 41 injured in 44 incidents; in 2005 40 killed and 218 injured in 40 incidents; in 2006 29 dead and 73 hurt in 255 incidents.

Terrorist attacks against railway infrastructure

24-1-05 3 kms from Sibi Railway track damaged

26-1-05 Mashkaf (Bolan) explosion occurred ¡ª no damage

27-1-05 Mashkaf (Bolan) 3 feet railway track destroyed

7-2-05 Paro Kunri (Bolan) 2 explosions occurred ¡ª no damage

7-2-05 Quetta explosion occurred ¡ª no damage

7-3-05 Mach explosion occurred near Railway Colony ¡ª no damage

15-3-05 Mach explosion occurred near railway station ¡ª no damage

18-3-05 Mach explosion in Chiltan Express one kilied and two injured

23-3-05 Railway station (Bolan) 1.5 feet railway track damaged

24-3-05 Mach detected explosive device

12-4-05 Chadarzai (Bolan) explosion in a bogy near railway station six persons injured

30-4-05 Bakhtiarabad Sibi damaged 2 feet railway track

28-5-05 Mach explosion at railway police station ¡ª no damage

23-6-05 Mastung damaged sleepers near Mastung

14-8-05 Mach destroyed railway track

29-10-05 Quetta Mustafaabad Railway bridge dislodged

23-12-05 Mastung 5 feet railway track damaged

28-12-05 Kandhkot destroyed railway line with explosive

31-12-05 Sibi blew 90 meters railway bridge

04-1-06 Noshki Railway bridge damaged

12-1-06 Quetta bomb exploded under railway track

15-1-06 Noshki railway bridge partially damaged

20-1-06 Mach Bomb exploded damaging track

20-1-06 Noshki bomb exploded under railway track Quetta-Zahidan section

26-1-06 Mach bomb exploded near Bungalzai Colony

16-2-06 Mach Bomb exploded near Mach railway station

27-2-06 Sibi Bomb exploded on railway track-engine and bogies derailed

8-4-06 Noshki bomb exploded near Quetta -Taftan railway track, damaging track

10-4-06 Noshki bomb exploded near Killi Zangian Abad, damaging the track

14-4-06 Sibi Bomb exploded under Railway bridge near Tandoori RS, damaging bridge

18-4-06 Jaffarabad miscreants removed fish plates from railway line at Sam Shakh railway, traffic remained suspended for 2 hours

21-4-06 Sibi bomb exploded under railway bridge near Babar Katch, damaging the bridge

22-4-06 Quetta bomb exploded under railway bridge in area Dasht, damaging 10 feet track/bridge

23-4-06 Sibi bomb exploded under Sibi-Harnai Railway track, damaging the track

25-4-06 Sibi bomb exploded under two railway bridges on Sibi-Harnai railway track ¡ª no damage

1-5-06 Noshki bomb exploded under railway track near Noshki, track damaged

31-5-06 Sibi bomb exploded, under railway track at Shoori, track damaged

6-06 Quetta bomb exploded under railway track at new Saryab damaging a sleeper of the railway track

5-6-06 DM Jamali bomb exploded under railway track at Shone, damaging 6 feet track

7-6-06 Sibi miscreants blew up a railway bridge

13-6-06 Noshki bomb exploded under railway track

15-6-06 Daibandin bomb exploded under railway track near FC Fort, track damaged

28-6-06 Quetta bomb exploded under railway track near Sariab

30-6-06 Noshki bomb exploded under railway track Qta-Taftan; damaging 3 meters track

1-7-06 Quetta three bombs exploded under railway track near Spizand, damaging track

TERRORIST ATTACKS AGAINST GAS PIPELINES

22 March 05 - Bolan. Overhead Crossing of 12¡å pipeline at Kumbri Nullah was damaged.

31 March 05 - Sibi. 20¡å submerged gas pipeline was rendered unusable. This incident was coordinated with the president¡¯s inauguration of gas supply to Kalat on 1 April 05.

13 August 05 - Sibi, 4¡å diameter distribution main valve was destroyed.

21 September 05 - Kalat. 6¡å diameter distribution main valve assembly damaged.

3 October 05 - Kolpur Pipeline, 20¡å & 12¡å submerged gas pipelines damaged. The incident synchronized with the visit of Indian foreign minister to Pakistan.

28 October 05 - Sibi. 12¡å pipeline exploded near Damboli.

1 November 05 - Guddu. Mari Gas Company¡¯s pipeline blown up.

27 December 05 - Sui. Gas pipeline near Well Number 60 destroyed.

3 January 06 - Dera Bugti, Gas pipeline to Uch Power Plant destroyed.

15 January 06 - Midwal. Gas pipeline in Midwal area damaged.

4 February 06 - Dera Bugti. Gas pipeline blown off near Loti Gas Field.

4 February 06 - Dera Bugti. Bugti terrorists fired 50 rockets on PPL fenced area, Sui, killing six (including two Army men) and injuring four. Damage also caused to residential infrastructure.

7 February 06 - Naseerabad. Gas pipeline blown up supplying gas to Uch Power Plant.

8 February 06 - Dera Bugti. Terrorists attacked PPL fenced area and Gate-9 with 10 rockets and small arms.

13 February 06-Dera Bugti. Terrorists blew up gas pipeline of Pir Koh Gas Field.

16 February 06 - Dera Bugti. Terrorists blew up Junction point of Pir Koh Gas Plant.

Night 16/17 February 06 - Dera Bugti. Terrorists damaged Well Number 24.

21 February 06 - Dera Bugti. Bugti terrorists blew up 14¡å Gas pipeline of Loti Gas Field.

21 February 06 - Dera Bugti. Well Number 23 damaged.

22 February 06 - Quetta. A bomb damaged gas pipeline at Eastern Bypass.

1 March 06-Dera Bugti. Bugti terrorists blew up 18¡å gas pipeline in area Pat Feeder.

5 March 06 - Quetta. A bomb damaged gas pipeline near Killi Shah Din Zai.

7 March O6 - Mastunq. Gas pipeline near Killi Bacha Abad, damaged.

9 March 06 - Dera Bugti. Bomb explosion damaged Well Number 12.

9 March 06 - Dera Bugti. Terrorists fired rockets at FC Camp Loti Gas Field.

20 March 06 - Dera Bugti. Bugti terrorists blew up 30¡å gas pipeline, leading to the Punjab.

21 March 06-Dera Bugti. Terrorists engaged Loti Gas Field with rockets and damaged it.

12 April 06 - Sui/Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up 18¡å Loti Field gas pipeline disrupting supply to Pir Koh Purification Plant.

18 April 06 - Mastunq. Terrorists exploded gas pipeline near Killi Muhammad Hassani, damaging gas pipeline and disrupting gas supply to Kalat.

28 April 06 - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up main gas pipeline, Loti Gas field, disrupting gas supply to Dera Bugti.

5 May 06 - Kalat. Fararis exploded old Sui Gas office, damaging 2¡å gas pipeline.

17 May - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up a connecting pipeline of well no 25 of Sui Gas Field in Bugti Colony.

18 May-Sui/Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis exploded main gas pipeline from Sui to Punjab.

19 May-Sui/Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis exploded 16¡å pipeline suspending gas supply to parts of Sindh and Punjab.

24 May - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis exploded a gas pipeline near PPL Gate 4, Bugti Colony.

26 May - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis exploded a Gas pipeline near Tehsil Bazaar Sui, pipeline caught fire burning 60-65 nearby wooden/canvas stalls/cabin.

27 May-Sui/Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis exploded main gas pipeline in area Pez Bogi, causing minor damage to pipeline.

2 June - Sui/Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis exploded a gas pipeline of well No 10 at Pir Koh Gas Field.

3/4 June - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis exploded 16¡å gas pipeline connecting Well No 17 of Loti Gas Field damaging gas pipeline.

6 June-Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up 16¡å dia gas pipeline of wells, 12, 22, 23, 50, 52 and 57 East of Sui.

10 June-Quetta. Bugti Fararis exploded 16¡å gas pipeline near Kolpur, disrupting gas supply to Quetta, Kuchlak, Pishin and Mastung.

10 June - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up 16¡å gas pipeline of Well no 14, Loti Gas Field.

Night 24/25 June - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up an 18¡å gas pipeline in Loti More area, suspending gas supply to Dera Bugti Town,

27 June - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up 2 gas pipelines of Pir Koh Gas Plant with explosion in area Bahar Colony.

27 June - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Fararis blew up gas pipeline East of Sui, reducing pressure in Compressor Plant.

28 June - Sui/ Dera Bugti. Bugti Ferrairs blew up 20¡å gas pipeline 10 kilometres South of Sui Gas Field, partially disrupting gas supply to areas of Sindh.

Damage to electricity transmission system/pylons

Barkhan -22 December 05. Bomb damaged electric pylon near Fort Munro.

Barkhan - 22 December 05. Electric pylons blown up near Kohlu district.

Khuzdar - 26 December 05, Pylon damaged by explosive in vicinity of Baghbana Koork.

Bolan - 2 January 06. Pylon blown up near Sibi Nani.

Jaffarabad - 4 January 06. Bomb damaged electric pylons near village Bhund.

Kohlu - 5 January 06.2 Electric pylons destroyed in area Babar Tuk, Kohlu.

Naseerabad - 5 January 06. 2 Pylons damaged near village Goth Jalal Khan.

Sibi-9 January 06. Pylon damaged near Nari railway station.

Barkhan-16 January 06. Bomb damaged D G Khan-Rakhni power transmission line.

Kalat-16 January 06. Main power transmission damaged near Astan-e-Dastgir.

Barkhan -12 February 06. Electric pylon blown up near Rakhni.

Jaffarabad -15 February 06. 3 Electric pylons damaged near Sohbatpur.

Sibi -13 March 06. two Electric pylons damaged near Bibi Nani.

Mach-16 March 06. Four Bombs exploded under two electric pylons near Bibi Nani.

Sibi-22 March 06.2 Electric pylons damaged near Babar Kach, Harnai.

Bolan - 31 March 06. Four Bombs exploded near Mach disrupting supply to town.

Rajanpur-20 April 06.five Electric pylons damaged in area Goth Mazari.

Rajanpur - Night 2/3 May 06. three Electric pylons destroyed in Goth Mazari.

Kohlu - Night 10/11 May 06. A bomb exploded under electric pylon near Khutta Chowki.

Mastung - 15 May 06. 3 Electric pylons of Mastung - Quetta power transmission line destroyed.

Barkhan-2 June 06. Miscreants blew up a pylon disrupting electricity supply to Kohlu.

Quetta - 6 June 06. A bomb exploded under two pylons in Dashat Area, damaging pylons.

Sibi - 16 June 06. A bomb explosion damaged a pylon, in Sibi.

Sui/Dera Bugti - 22 June 06. two Pylons in Pez Bogi area damaged.

Naseerabad -27 June.06. A pylon near Village Hassan destroyed. Kohlu - 4 July 06. A bomb exploded under pylons in Killi Lasezai.

This year a total of 21 vehicles were attacked in which 80 people were killed and 109 injured.

Now soon it¡¯ll be the turn of other traitors to die like dogs.

Re: # 126

Thank you. Why dont you add me on h_ellahi@hotmail.com?

Thanks.

#131 by nasah

What the eff are you talking about?

I mean Rozaiba`s article not Zeemax`s...:)

sorry folks -- post #129 was supposed to be posted on the forum ``Hinduism as a continuousl religion`` -- zeemax your article is not flawed fatally or otherwise btw.

``Hinduism is more a culture than a religion. To interpret it as a religion alone would be fatally flawed fundamentally``

what an original statement! -- perhaps you haven`t heard that -- ``Islam is more a culture than a religion`` -- ``Judaism is more a culture than a religion`` -- ``Christianity is more a culture than a religion`` -- Buddhism is more a culture than a religion`` -- ``Zoroastrianism is more a culture than a religion``......

do these high fluting claims by their respective adherents -- make them any better -- I don`t think so. They all have been more than one time in their recent history have been -- gutter religions -- including Hinduism.

``To interpret (them) as a religion alone would be fatally flawed fundamentally`` -- why? -- why calling a spade a spade is flawed? -- ``religion alone`` -- uncultured OR cultured -- ``would be (is) fatally flawed fundamentally`` -- especially of the fundamentally kind....

and Hinduism is no exception......

this article is flawed -- not `fatally flawed` of course -- the oldest pagan religion that continuously has been a pagan religion for 5000 years -- is not Hinduism -- but Judaism.... he fountainhead of two more pagan religions

Hinduism is more a culture than a religion. To interpret it as a religion alone would be fatally flawed fundamentally. It does not have schools for religious scholars who then go out and practise it in temples spread across towns and cities. Nor is there any hierarchy of priests. A hindu need not worship at a given time or day (or at all).It can be called the least ``organized`` of all religions. The amount of leeway available to individuals is phenomenal.

And of course.. In 2006, the words of the Nobel laureate (Physics) Dr. Richard Feynman (in ``surely...``) would be more valid when he talks of jewish scholars :

``Here they are,slowly coming to life, only to better interpret the Talmud. Imagine ! In modern times like these, guys are studying to go into society to be a Rabbi-- and the only way they think that science might be interesting is because their ancient, provincial, medieval problems are being confounded slightly by some new phenomenon``.

These can be applied to madarsas, seminaries and other places, a certain percentgage of which turn out religious zealots & professional practitioners. Hinduism on the other hand is plagued by its own evils, some of them much much worse, almost to the point of being intolerable.

The medieval texts cannot continue to govern rational minds (large numbers of which exist in all societies). Hence, Any attempts to foist ``modernised versions`` of Hinduism, Islam, Christianity cannot but fail. Increasing importance of economic and cultural factors would push religion as the defining identity for an individual to the margin.

teshah mian,

Actually there is a distinction between ``National language`` and ``state language``. It was supposed to be the state language and Jinnah mentioned as a ``state language`` for communication or ``Rabita`` as you say between different federating units of Pakistan. In the same speech he also promised the preservation and propagation of Bengali as a provincial language ...

In any event... the language issue was solved in 1956. The real reason Bengalis separated was the LACK of a CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS... and everything else boiled down to this...
Had Fatima Jinnah, who won a large following in East Pakistan, been allowed to win and become the president ... it was certain that erstwhile Pakistan would have still been together...

haroonellahi:109
I have not forgotten your query, I am quite busy these days & will write later..

I appreciate your interest in these matters and look forward to see the new generation with a
mind not shackled by colonial-chains.

I think the Malaysian model is possible with the current Pakistani constitution in its present form... Pakistani constitution, even in its present form, is actually better than the Malaysian constitution.. so its implementation and evolution can eventually satisfy a lot of people on the opposite sides of the spectrum.