Has Hinduism had the Longest Tradition of Continuous Religion?

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#194 by Urstruly

[But in fact the vile acts of character assassination of others with false accusations are desperate attempts of those scared people who no more see any justification in their own belief system and are painfully aware of the falsehood of their standing. ]

Why don`t you list the accusations which are wrong?

Here`s a prediction - for all the condemnations and hot air, you won`t be able to list ANY that you can substantiate.

#197 by zeemax

[Yaar typical stale faithfreedom stuff .... Do rise above cherry picking sensationalist character assassination stuff and read the whole works ! Why do you think he forgave the pagans of Quraish after walking into Mecca with 100,000 men? He could have massacred them all and enslaved their women .... But, you won`t find the answer on faithfreedom. ]

If faithfreedom says something correct (and they do, of course), then it is correct regardless of the name of their website.

Also, about cherry picking. As I have mentioned to tahmed before,

in boolean algebra,

1 AND 0 = 0.

In judging character,

abominable actions AND good actions = abominable character.

Hitler did some good things in life too. As did Charles Manson, Jack the Ripper and every horrendous criminal under the son. They are still monsters.


[Perhaps hamidm was right. Cranberry juice has more vutamis than cow-piss.]

I think you should go easy with the wit and sarcasm stuff. It doesn`t work for everybody. :)

#188 by Urstruly

Urstruly, I hear your sincere and noble advice. I fully acknowledge and respect it. Thanks my friend for always endeavouring and persisting in your firm path and never wavering.

However, I humbly submit that these people (i.e. the arjuns`, abcds`, jangs` netizens` harimaus` and the upside down nicks like nasahs`... etc) have no desire to engage in any meaningful dialogues, but all of these are rather worms whom stick their necks out of the gutters with an agenda to ridicule and to defame whenever half an opportunity arises.

So the appropriate response to them is `whack-a-mole`.

#190 by krishna_abcd

Yaar typical stale faithfreedom stuff .... Do rise above cherry picking sensationalist character assassination stuff and read the whole works ! Why do you think he forgave the pagans of Quraish after walking into Mecca with 100,000 men? He could have massacred them all and enslaved their women .... But, you won`t find the answer on faithfreedom.

Perhaps hamidm was right. Cranberry juice has more vutamis than cow-piss.

the author is obviously overlooking some most obvious prctice if hindu religion which is essentialy unchanged..the samskaras of birth, naming, the thread ceremony, marriage and death samskaras. these have been vedic and are still vedic, their is no rama, krishna in the feras in front of the fire during a wedding and thats the way its been forever. the only thing that is changed is instead of animal sacrifices, now ghee is poured in the fire.

Re: # 194

Yaar, we all know Quran is a cut`n`paste job..no need to get all pissy. It is alla matter of faith. If some injun wants to pray to an elephant is no different that someone praying to a god perpetually in menopause.

In all honesty, those people whose religion started with two colossal wars and kidnapping of a woman should be the last to point their fingers at others. But in fact the vile acts of character assassination of others with false accusations are desperate attempts of those scared people who no more see any justification in their own belief system and are painfully aware of the falsehood of their standing.


Qura`n has elaborated on this aspect of human psyche by citing the story of Jesus Christ (pbuh). Legend has it that Jesus was born to a virgin lady whose piety of character was unquestionable. Prior to the birth of Jesus a group of Jewsish elders and scholars dreamt of the birth of new prophet in Nazareth; they followed the clues and ended up meeting with virgin Mary (pbuh) who had just given birth to the prophet. The infant Jesus spoke to those scholar and affirmed to them that he was the prophet they had been waiting for so long. After that no one questioned the birth of Jesus and no one accused Mary of indiscretion until Jesus grew up and started reforming the religion of Abraham and Moses. Ironically, the very people who witnessed infant Jesus talk to them were the one who resurrected the issue of questionable birth of Jesus when they felt that their vested interests were being threatened and their own questionable practices were being exposed.

Facing upto this kind of injustice and standing ones ground is also the way of prophets. This is a test that God puts steadfast human beings through. Our Holy Prophet (pbuh) was no exception. He was also mentally tortured by his adversaries by false accusations about his wife.

Re: # 188

``Holy Prophet (pbuh) never insulted anyone, nor did he insulted or disparaged anyone`s beliefs ever in his own life and yet he won ..........``

but he did bang the maid ...............

Ref zeemax #163

[Oh .. ok .. so you don`t like the monkey/cow urine examples ... how about worshipping six-armed black she-demons with oversized genitals?]

Once you start talking about Invisible Friends in High Places, as far as I am concerned anything goes. Even jinns.

After all, if Allah cannot be depicted in images how do you know that He doesn`t have six arms?

Ref hamidm2 #162

[............ so what is the conclusion ?............ is urstruly a djinn or an angel ? ........ does cow urine have more vitamin c than cranberry juice? ............. does harimau have a tail ?]

Harimau tweaks other people`s tails real hard!

#188 by Urstruly

[Zeemax,

......Holy Prophet (pbuh) never insulted anyone, nor did he insulted or disparaged anyone`s beliefs ever in his own life and yet he won, he won big time in a way that the movement that he started goes on till this day. Don`t you think that his strength was his method?]

Yes, beta Zeemax, you should emulate his ``method``. He never insulted or disparaged anyone, but attacked his enemies from the behind when they were unaware, feeding their cattle etc., and beheaded each and every male member, and then had sex with the chief`s daughter the same night...

His strength was his method...using this method he had carved out a nice little territory in the wasteland of Saudi Arabia, as well as a harem of 12, including a 9-year-old.

Follow his method, my son. Don`t dispage others. Just murder them. And then have sex with their daughters the same night.


Cheerio.

``God in everything``.

or sometimes the Hindu philosophy of religion is summarized in the phrase ``One in all``. If we accept this philosophy to be true then god must be in my person as well. So logically, if a hindu worships an animal or an inanimate object because of this philosophy then he must have absolutely no objection worshiping me and calling me his god either.

But think about it.....

If the first reaction that came to your mind, after reading the above sentence, was that of disgust, anger, and rejection then this philosophy cannot be true. You must ask yourself this question that why what you believe is half the truth.

Look this is not a unique situation. When our Holy Prophet (pbuh) started his movement of monotheism, he also faced the people who belived in One God, but they had created idols of demi-gods also thinking that One True God cannot deliver alone. They understood the point perfectly well, that Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) was making but they were so much in love with their own ignorance and they had so much hold of rituals upon them that they did not want to abandon their false beliefs. Let me reapeat it again that Islam is not contradictory to the core belief of Hindusim, it is the ``extras`` with in Hindusim that are contradictory to its own core belief. Don`t you realize that these ``extras`` are nothing but excuses for your own way wardness?

Zeemax,

I would appeal to your good heart, that if your heart has a penny worth of love and respect left for Holy Prophet (pbuh), you would not make fun of other people`s belief or ideals. Don`t you realize just this little thing that all the forces that are standing shoulder to shoulder against Islam today have exact same composition as the forces that stood against the Islamic movement that Holy Prophet (pbuh) started in his time? - the way ward christians, and jews, polytheists, animists, atheists, capitalists, and every other -ism that you can think of?. But on the positive side, God has chosen us, the Mulims of this era to face this challenge again; It is a great honor despite our own way wardness. Holy Prophet (pbuh) never insulted anyone, nor did he insulted or disparaged anyone`s beliefs ever in his own life and yet he won, he won big time in a way that the movement that he started goes on till this day. Don`t you think that his strength was his method?

#179 by zeemax

[.... it`s quite stale anyway because it was not only published but the video played for months in Pak ....]

Ha ha ha.... You guys are such losers! :)

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