Has Hinduism had the Longest Tradition of Continuous Religion?

#184 by kaalchakra

Glad you liked it ...

Next upon the bill in our House of Vaudeville
We`ve a stripper in a till
What a thrill! What a thrill!
And not content with that, with our hands behind our backs,
We pull Jesus from a hat,
Get into that! Get into that!
Roll up! Roll up! Roll up!
See the show!

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We`re so glad you could attend
Come inside! Come inside!
There behind a glass is a real blade of grass
be careful as you pass.
Move along! Move along!

Come inside, the show`s about to start
guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured you`ll get your money`s worth
The greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth.
You`ve got to see the show, it`s a dynamo.
You`ve got to see the show, it`s rock and roll ....

Zeemax Ustaad

LOL....One wishes the liberals too opened their eyes to the macabre show. May be they will recognize that lure of the virgins and love of bloodshed will always combine to produce a theatre on earth unlike any other. :)

#182 by kaalchakra

If you are `time`, you know what I mean ...

Soon the Gypsy Queen in a glaze of Vaseline
Will perform on guillotine
What a scene! What a scene!
Next upon the stand will you please extend a hand
to Alexander`s Ragtime Band
Roll up! Roll up! Roll up!
See the show!

Performing on a stool we`ve a sight to make you drool
Seven virgins and a mule
Keep it cool. Keep it cool.
We would like it to be known the exhibits that were shown
were exclusively our own,
All our own. All our own.
Come and see the show! Come and see the show! Come and see the show!
See the show!

Zeemax Ustaad

I must not have understood your post. If you could please explain it some more. :)

#180 by kaalchakra

And as always such feats are performed either to amuse and inspire, or to deceive and control...

I guess you didn`t read my referred post. Do read it again and come back. Like the `fingertips` part ...

hamidm2

Lunatic asylums could provide a fitting example for us. Irrationality and extraordinariness that make people dysfunctional for themselves and a threat to the well-being of others are diseases. Irrationality and extraordinariness that enable some people to achieve great and good things for themselves and for mankind are rare human virtues that go into making great entrepreneurs, visionaries, leaders, and achievers.

IMHO, it is a liberal error to overlook this distinction between disease and virtue, and to require that people get rid of the good with the bad.


Zeemax Ustaad

True! And as always such feats are performed either to amuse and inspire, or to deceive and control; to help people progress, enhance their choices, and live better with one another, or to push people back, limit their individual freedom, and make it hard for them to live together. Our liberal friends would rather paint everyone with the same color. Taking that easy route is a dangerous abdication of responsibility on their part.

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#175 by zeemax

[LoL ... of-course because you monkey-worshippers/urine slurpers are the defeated people .... not once but throughout history ....! ]

Correction. Your ancestors were the losers and cowards. My ancestors did not lose to the barbarians or submit to their barbaric world-view. And it shows - see how we keep thrashing you guys every time? Want me to paste some photos of the invincible Paki army surrendering? :)

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#146 by Salim_Chauhan

[Jinns are a ``catch-all`` to describe beings who exist beyond our own earth. If the Universe is infinite, what is the probability of finding Jinns somewhere out there? :) ]

So if Jinns are a catch-all, where do the poor angels stand?

#174 by krishna_abcd

LoL ... of-course because you monkey-worshippers/urine slurpers are the defeated people .... not once but throughout history ....!

Yes. Stay at home and keep shoving the urine down your throats .....

#157 by zeemax

[This article is about hinudism and not Islam. ]

You can`t expect Hindus to stick to the topic like you always do.


[In any event, however, beliving in djinns is better than worshipping monkeys and cow urine.]

That might have been true - except that believing in jinss AND a pedophile`s ``message`` is definitely worse.

Also, Hindus are happily worshipping monkeys and guzzling on their own urine in their own home. They are not trying to shove it down other people`s throats like you guys. So you guys are much worse.

#136 by Urstruly


[Personally, I think that either Djinns live in another dimension, a parallel universe if you will, or they very well live among us. It is quite possible that they have the ability to jump between these parallel universes and so do we but they know about their ability and we don`t. May be sometime in future we will find out that physical make up of certain human beings among us is different from the rest.]

I think this could be true. This would explain the physical make-up of the frontal and pre-frontal cortexes of many life-forms I see on Chowk.


[It is my speculation. I won`t be surprised by this. Until human beings discovered microscopes a large part of this universe did not exist for us either. ]

Yes. You would need microscopes to observe the structure of the frontal and pre-frontal cortexes of many of these jinns on Chowk.


[An angle is a third kind of intelligent life form but they do not have the free will as humans and Djinns do. Consider them as being equivalent of divine robots - they are intelligent enough to recognize the difference between right and wrong but they do not have ability to do anything against what they ar programmed to do.]

Now could these be the suicide bombers? I wonder...


[It seems from the Quranic and Hadith edicts that their physical composition also constitute of some sort of energy.]

This is very deep. Where`s masadi? Matter and energy are really the same thing, in a quantum-mechanical kind of way. So Masadi was right! Quantum-mechanical robots zooming around. Remarkable!


[As for them having wings is concerned, I am not aware of any Quranic verse or hadith which stipulates that they have wings. My assumption is that it is people`s speculation since it is told that they also have ability to jump to another dimension, the netherworld, where they reside. It is people`s speculation that they have to go/fly ``above`` towards sky to get into that netherworld; may be all they need to do is take a step to cross the barrier. ]

How about this nugget:

35:1 Praise be to Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, the Maker of the angels, messengers flying on wings, two, and three, and four. He increases in creation what He pleases. Surely Allah is Possessor of power over all things.


[Qura`n is very specific about the things in the Netherworld, i.e. Angels, Heaven, Hell etc. It stipulates that the words that Qura`n uses to describe the conditions and attributes of netherworld are only to give us a feel, in human language, to help us understand. Let me explain it by an example: think of a man who has never seen or tasted a mango ever in his life, how would you explain a mango to him. You would most certainly explore his taste of sweet food that he has consumed in his life and make the closest connection to his experiences. This would give him a `feel` of sweet mangoes. If we make this example further complex assume that you are charged with explaining how a mango taste like to an alien life form who don`t eat food to survive. So Qura`n and hadith both stipulates to human beings not to get into the speculation of the Netherworld, because it would be useless exercise and the reality of them would be revealed to us after the Day of Final Judgement.]

I can`t wait. It`s absolutely fascinating! String theorists - eat your heart out! Masadi zindabad!

``Hinduism is more a culture than a religion. To interpret it as a religion alone would be fatally flawed fundamentally``

what an original statement! -- perhaps you haven`t heard that -- ``Islam is more a culture than a religion`` -- ``Judaism is more a culture than a religion`` -- ``Christianity is more a culture than a religion`` -- Buddhism is more a culture than a religion`` -- ``Zoroastrianism is more a culture than a religion``......

do these high fluting claims by their respective adherents -- make them any better -- I don`t think so. They all have been more than one time in their recent history have been -- gutter religions -- including Hinduism.

``To interpret (them) as a religion alone would be fatally flawed fundamentally`` -- why? -- why calling a spade a spade is flawed? -- ``religion alone`` -- uncultured OR cultured -- ``would be (is) fatally flawed fundamentally`` -- especially of the fundamentally kind....

and Hinduism is no exception......

this article is flawed -- not `fatally flawed` of course -- the oldest pagan religion that continuously has been a pagan religion for 5000 years -- is not Hinduism -- but Judaism.... he fountainhead of two more pagan religions

#168 by kaalchakra

When facts cease imagination begins.

Perhaps. But it`s all turned on its head when you touch an inverted glass with your fingertips and see it moving under its own power all around the table.

Re: # 168

kaal,

``The irrational is what turns the average and ordinary into inspired and extraordinary.`` ........... by that logic the lunatic asylums are full of geniuses !

........ sadhus and prohets - schizophrenics who sit around in caves and bunyan trees waiting for answers - could be viewed as harmless oddities and mildly amusing, if it weren`t for the fact that they want to foist their crazy ideas on other people ......... if someone wants to drink cow urine or blow himself up, fine ! ......... but let`s not demean ourselves by calling them inspired and extraordinary ........