Ahmer Muzammil January 17, 2007
#258 Posted by Zeena on January 22, 2007 2:28:06 am
To all the decent interactors, abusive mullahs, my dear supporter interactors, ladies and gentlemen and even those who abused me with name calling and showed their below the belt Islamic behavior.
Hullo and Salaam
My take for this whole board is I strongly believe that Hadiths are false. Majority of these false hadiths have had been used by Males to protect their own rights and to cure their own insecurities which have no limits, even on this board. Those male mullahs abuse false hadiths and false interpretations of Quran to suppress the women folks in general and to control the human masses in particular.They did every possible task to give their fabricated Hadiths a legal status via more and more fabrication.
Sadly, this fabrication started right after the death of our Prophet(PBUH) , not by ladies, but, by some so called Muslim leaders of that particular time and they only fabricate the material to fulfill their own needs and their political gains. Majority of them sold themselves for such fabrication to the rulers and to political groups for the self promotion of their own points of views.
Majority of such fabrication was done to put down the women. Their fabricated kind of Islam Not only snatched the equal rights for women, but, also altered the whole real Islamic picture and customs for their selfish motives.They distorted the laws, customs and interpretations which were not in their favor. Not only that they manipulated the whole Islamic ultra structure and even Quran for their own satanic needs.
Unfortunately, so called Muslim mullahs, were, are and will never be able to accept the change in the view of current times, b/c we have much more awareness now, that we lacked generations ago, when right after Mohd(PBUH)`s death they intentionally kept us in dark just to control the masses and just to keep us with narrow minded approach, totally opposite of what Mohd(PBUH) taught us via Quran and his real sayings. Mohd(PBUH) was a scientist and ultramodern man, who wanted to liberate our views to progress the whole world.
These cruel Muslim mullahs like hounds and wolves felt threatened by Mohd(PBUH0`s open mindedness and progressive mind and as soon as Prophet(PBUH0 died they started all the FITNA and fasad in the form of false Hadiths and wrong interpretations of Quran.
Sadly, in their kind of Mullah Muslim fabricated society, the most suffering population were the miserable women, and they even now are not letting go of this fabricated society and things of the past will never benefit Muslim society in particular and this world in general.
This is the time we need to change this Mullah Islam, which has destroyed muslim image globally. There is absolutely NO morality left in Muslim countries. No real and fine humans are left, only hounds and wolves praying in Islamic fabricated society in the name of fabricated hadiths, ruling the masses with their pseudo Islamic fundamentalism..............
If, we see humans in Muslim countries majority of the people (mostly women ) are suffering, enough of human suffering @ the hands of these junglii animals, called Mullahs...........Our patience, our tolerance are enough tested.
We need to wake up, bring real interpretations of Quran with out false Hadiths and ban all the Hadiths altogether. We have to be together for this jihad against these fundoos Mullahs , who are calling us(anti Hadiths people). So, they don`t wish for the people to be Quran literates. They wish people to go their ways or NO ways.....
They are the plagues of the society, eradicate them with more and more liberalism , exclusively for women folks.....
Look at this anon board, don`t go far. These mullahs having fits, seizures and rage with threats and screaming with false accusations and creating an environment of animosity and tensions. Where are calm and composed intellectuals? Where are the people who are rational? Where is responsibility and humbleness? Where are sympathies and love? That was the nature of our Prophet(PBUH).
This matter is now out of our hands, here lives and deaths of humans are involved............And I am pleading exclusively for women folks..............and this board is about women issues............Mullahs brainwash young kids not to use their won brains in religious matters, but, to follow false and fabricated Hadiths and fabricated Quranic interpretations. In real Islam, Muslims were afraid of only God(Al Mighty) and even then they are allowed to question God, but, in their kind of Islam questioning their fabricated teachings is sin and punishable act and people can`t question mullahs.
Their teachings are same old false hadiths. Religious and secular matters should be separate, if, we really wish to see ourselves progressive like other nations are. Mullahs have hijacked our religion and paralyzed us with their false hadiths.We are dead people , just b/c of these false Hadiths. Real Quran wants us to use our minds, search and research, these fabricated Mullahs want us to block our minds and only believe in false Hadiths and lead our lives the way they wish us to
Earlier, Muslims were more scientific and creative , b/c they were using Quran in it`s real teachings . Latter their minds became blocked, dull and retarded b/c of false Hadiths, when they stopped reading Quran in it`s
real sense.
Believe me, this is the end of the time, Muslims need to wake up. Enough of this fabrication with Hadiths and fabrication with Quranic interpretations. Let them know who is the boss of your minds?
You and only you. They can`t control you, they can`t make you stop questioning their false hadiths through your minds. Use your mind`s light,REJECT ALL HADITHS, reject all fabricated Quranic interpretations.
Just read Quran, with open mind, calmly, composedly, use the light of your own brain and your brain will tell you , what is right and wrong??
Thanks
Hullo and Salaam
My take for this whole board is I strongly believe that Hadiths are false. Majority of these false hadiths have had been used by Males to protect their own rights and to cure their own insecurities which have no limits, even on this board. Those male mullahs abuse false hadiths and false interpretations of Quran to suppress the women folks in general and to control the human masses in particular.They did every possible task to give their fabricated Hadiths a legal status via more and more fabrication.
Sadly, this fabrication started right after the death of our Prophet(PBUH) , not by ladies, but, by some so called Muslim leaders of that particular time and they only fabricate the material to fulfill their own needs and their political gains. Majority of them sold themselves for such fabrication to the rulers and to political groups for the self promotion of their own points of views.
Majority of such fabrication was done to put down the women. Their fabricated kind of Islam Not only snatched the equal rights for women, but, also altered the whole real Islamic picture and customs for their selfish motives.They distorted the laws, customs and interpretations which were not in their favor. Not only that they manipulated the whole Islamic ultra structure and even Quran for their own satanic needs.
Unfortunately, so called Muslim mullahs, were, are and will never be able to accept the change in the view of current times, b/c we have much more awareness now, that we lacked generations ago, when right after Mohd(PBUH)`s death they intentionally kept us in dark just to control the masses and just to keep us with narrow minded approach, totally opposite of what Mohd(PBUH) taught us via Quran and his real sayings. Mohd(PBUH) was a scientist and ultramodern man, who wanted to liberate our views to progress the whole world.
These cruel Muslim mullahs like hounds and wolves felt threatened by Mohd(PBUH0`s open mindedness and progressive mind and as soon as Prophet(PBUH0 died they started all the FITNA and fasad in the form of false Hadiths and wrong interpretations of Quran.
Sadly, in their kind of Mullah Muslim fabricated society, the most suffering population were the miserable women, and they even now are not letting go of this fabricated society and things of the past will never benefit Muslim society in particular and this world in general.
This is the time we need to change this Mullah Islam, which has destroyed muslim image globally. There is absolutely NO morality left in Muslim countries. No real and fine humans are left, only hounds and wolves praying in Islamic fabricated society in the name of fabricated hadiths, ruling the masses with their pseudo Islamic fundamentalism..............
If, we see humans in Muslim countries majority of the people (mostly women ) are suffering, enough of human suffering @ the hands of these junglii animals, called Mullahs...........Our patience, our tolerance are enough tested.
We need to wake up, bring real interpretations of Quran with out false Hadiths and ban all the Hadiths altogether. We have to be together for this jihad against these fundoos Mullahs , who are calling us(anti Hadiths people). So, they don`t wish for the people to be Quran literates. They wish people to go their ways or NO ways.....
They are the plagues of the society, eradicate them with more and more liberalism , exclusively for women folks.....
Look at this anon board, don`t go far. These mullahs having fits, seizures and rage with threats and screaming with false accusations and creating an environment of animosity and tensions. Where are calm and composed intellectuals? Where are the people who are rational? Where is responsibility and humbleness? Where are sympathies and love? That was the nature of our Prophet(PBUH).
This matter is now out of our hands, here lives and deaths of humans are involved............And I am pleading exclusively for women folks..............and this board is about women issues............Mullahs brainwash young kids not to use their won brains in religious matters, but, to follow false and fabricated Hadiths and fabricated Quranic interpretations. In real Islam, Muslims were afraid of only God(Al Mighty) and even then they are allowed to question God, but, in their kind of Islam questioning their fabricated teachings is sin and punishable act and people can`t question mullahs.
Their teachings are same old false hadiths. Religious and secular matters should be separate, if, we really wish to see ourselves progressive like other nations are. Mullahs have hijacked our religion and paralyzed us with their false hadiths.We are dead people , just b/c of these false Hadiths. Real Quran wants us to use our minds, search and research, these fabricated Mullahs want us to block our minds and only believe in false Hadiths and lead our lives the way they wish us to
Earlier, Muslims were more scientific and creative , b/c they were using Quran in it`s real teachings . Latter their minds became blocked, dull and retarded b/c of false Hadiths, when they stopped reading Quran in it`s
real sense.
Believe me, this is the end of the time, Muslims need to wake up. Enough of this fabrication with Hadiths and fabrication with Quranic interpretations. Let them know who is the boss of your minds?
You and only you. They can`t control you, they can`t make you stop questioning their false hadiths through your minds. Use your mind`s light,REJECT ALL HADITHS, reject all fabricated Quranic interpretations.
Just read Quran, with open mind, calmly, composedly, use the light of your own brain and your brain will tell you , what is right and wrong??
Thanks
#263 Posted by hamidm2 on January 22, 2007 7:35:34 am
Re: # 258
zeena,
...... i hate to disappoint you, but you are wrong when you state that ``Mohd(PBUH) was a scientist and ultramodern man, who wanted to liberate our views to progress the whole world`` ............. as far as women are concerned he was not a paragon of gentlemanly and honorable behavior .....
............the fact that he kept 14 wives and a dozen concubines in his stable should tell you what he thought of women .... he might have been a `moderate` and `enlightened` man ccompared to his bedouin contemporaries, but by today`s civilized standards he falls way short .......... so, if you really want the uncouth mullahs and their incorrigible followers to improve their attitudes towards women, you should not use muhammad mian (pbuh) as an example - they might take the wrong cue from him ..................
zeena,
...... i hate to disappoint you, but you are wrong when you state that ``Mohd(PBUH) was a scientist and ultramodern man, who wanted to liberate our views to progress the whole world`` ............. as far as women are concerned he was not a paragon of gentlemanly and honorable behavior .....
............the fact that he kept 14 wives and a dozen concubines in his stable should tell you what he thought of women .... he might have been a `moderate` and `enlightened` man ccompared to his bedouin contemporaries, but by today`s civilized standards he falls way short .......... so, if you really want the uncouth mullahs and their incorrigible followers to improve their attitudes towards women, you should not use muhammad mian (pbuh) as an example - they might take the wrong cue from him ..................
#411 Posted by may on July 20, 2007 4:10:30 am
Re: # 263
First of all hamidm2,mind ur language while talkin abt the Prophet(salAllahu alaihi wasallum)
Secondly,ur biased views abt Islam n the Prophet simply reflect ur ignorance abt it.Du hav ANY idea how women were treated in those times.He(Sallahu alihi wasallum)didn't hav 14 wives.The number is 11 or 13.Havin 11 wives isn't any backward than havin 3 divorces is modern in today's world.So,do good to urself,read the Quran n clear ur facts up b4 u post anything else so stupid n waste our energy.
First of all hamidm2,mind ur language while talkin abt the Prophet(salAllahu alaihi wasallum)
Secondly,ur biased views abt Islam n the Prophet simply reflect ur ignorance abt it.Du hav ANY idea how women were treated in those times.He(Sallahu alihi wasallum)didn't hav 14 wives.The number is 11 or 13.Havin 11 wives isn't any backward than havin 3 divorces is modern in today's world.So,do good to urself,read the Quran n clear ur facts up b4 u post anything else so stupid n waste our energy.
#410 Posted by may on July 20, 2007 4:07:25 am
Re: # 263
First of all hamidm2,mind ur language while talkin abt the Prophet(salAllahu alaihi wasallum)
Secondly,ur biased views abt Islam n the Prophet simply reflect ur ignorance abt it.Du hav ANY idea how women were treated in those times.He(Sallahu alihi wasallum)didn't hav 14 wives.The number is 11 or 13.Havin 11 wives isn't any backward than havin 3 divorces is modern in today's world.So,do good to urself,read the Quran n clear ur facts up b4 u post anything else so stupid n waste our energy.
First of all hamidm2,mind ur language while talkin abt the Prophet(salAllahu alaihi wasallum)
Secondly,ur biased views abt Islam n the Prophet simply reflect ur ignorance abt it.Du hav ANY idea how women were treated in those times.He(Sallahu alihi wasallum)didn't hav 14 wives.The number is 11 or 13.Havin 11 wives isn't any backward than havin 3 divorces is modern in today's world.So,do good to urself,read the Quran n clear ur facts up b4 u post anything else so stupid n waste our energy.
#256 Posted by hamidm2 on January 21, 2007 8:56:11 pm
Re: # 251
bjkumar mian,
....... for once, maybe twice, i agree with you totally - this article is a load of crap by yet another of those islamic apologists who are always trying to justify this thing or that based on their interpretation of gabriel`s garbled goobledygook ........ some other things you can expect from the same crowd :
.... it is never okay to marry your sister to the koran
.....it is never okay to marry your father`s wife even if he never slept with her
.....it is never okay to kick a pig even though he is haram
.....it is never okay to marry your adopted son`t wife
.....it is never okay to destroy a hindoo temple even though it houses obscene idols
.....it is never okay to adopt a son because later on you might want to marry his wife
.... it is never okay to kill an ahmedi for jay walking even though he is a kafir
.....it is never okay to beat your child senseless because he refuses to pray
.....it is okay to pray after you have passed air as long as no fluid was excreted
.....it is never okay to have sex with the lights on
.....it is not okay for men to pee standing up
.....it is okay to pee standing up if you are a woman
.......... and the list goes on and on ........
bjkumar mian,
....... for once, maybe twice, i agree with you totally - this article is a load of crap by yet another of those islamic apologists who are always trying to justify this thing or that based on their interpretation of gabriel`s garbled goobledygook ........ some other things you can expect from the same crowd :
.... it is never okay to marry your sister to the koran
.....it is never okay to marry your father`s wife even if he never slept with her
.....it is never okay to kick a pig even though he is haram
.....it is never okay to marry your adopted son`t wife
.....it is never okay to destroy a hindoo temple even though it houses obscene idols
.....it is never okay to adopt a son because later on you might want to marry his wife
.... it is never okay to kill an ahmedi for jay walking even though he is a kafir
.....it is never okay to beat your child senseless because he refuses to pray
.....it is okay to pray after you have passed air as long as no fluid was excreted
.....it is never okay to have sex with the lights on
.....it is not okay for men to pee standing up
.....it is okay to pee standing up if you are a woman
.......... and the list goes on and on ........
#255 Posted by bjkumar on January 21, 2007 5:41:56 pm
I think mindless robots are a vast improvement over the line of thinking that I see being pushed on this site by some of the ``Islamic intellectuals`` on this site on a day in and day out basis!
#254 Posted by bjkumar on January 21, 2007 5:37:14 pm
#253 (further thoughts)
Of course, there is no intent on my part whatsoever to imply that some of the interacts are any less crappy!
Far from it!
#253 Posted by bjkumar on January 21, 2007 5:35:02 pm
#252
Saima Rana - Meri behna,
Ro mat
Ro naa
Kabhie mat
Ro naa
Chahey toot jaye
Dil ka khilona..
(YOU are not the writer of this crap, by any chance?!!)
My little sis, you know how it is...
You know what they say...
People have opinion...
Every one has one...
(Like certain parts of the anatomy.)
And is entitled to them.
And in my opinion, this write-up is one crappy piece of work.
It could be called crap itself!
Like this...
| CRAP! |
#251 Posted by bjkumar on January 21, 2007 4:56:40 pm
First, there is the simple observation that women are human beings and hitting another human being is wrong.
Second, hitting women is wrong also in the same way that hitting children is wrong, because – barring exceptions; the fair sex is also physically weaker.
What boggles the mind is that some individuals NEED to look at their book and get its sanction to determine that indeed it IS wrong. Why is that a bad thing?!!
The answer is simplicity itself – because that leaves the possibility open that indeed your Book MAY provide an excuse for justifying such behavior!
The writer is an absolute MORON for doing exactly that. And the chowk editors are absolute heels for publishing this crap!
Sometimes, it appears to me that the chowk crowds – especially those in charge, are a bunch of lunatic asylum escapees who need to be promptly escorted – kicking and screaming – to their rightful places!
#252 Posted by saimarana on January 21, 2007 5:11:23 pm
Re: # 251
in my last i said that ``i `guess` that chowk staff has stopped reading the interacts``
but after reading more crap in 251 i am sure they have stopped reading the interacts.
in my last i said that ``i `guess` that chowk staff has stopped reading the interacts``
but after reading more crap in 251 i am sure they have stopped reading the interacts.
#249 Posted by KaalChakra on January 21, 2007 10:48:59 am
beej, that`s a serious question for you. So if you decide to respond, please don`t load it up with all those exclamation marks. :)
#247 Posted by KaalChakra on January 21, 2007 10:40:22 am
Ok, forget all this monkey business. Let`s just figure out a simple thing :)
Isn`t it ok to hit a woman (or a man) if they actually ask you to hit them? If they beg and plead to be hit?
If their life isn`t worth living without being hit? I mean, you yourself might not be into this stuff, but suppose there is out there somebody who is. Desperately. Beyond medical help.
So there is somebody out there who wants to be hit. Someone other who wants to hit.
And then there is you. What should you do? Will you be quoting books? And telling them what?
Isn`t it ok to hit a woman (or a man) if they actually ask you to hit them? If they beg and plead to be hit?
If their life isn`t worth living without being hit? I mean, you yourself might not be into this stuff, but suppose there is out there somebody who is. Desperately. Beyond medical help.
So there is somebody out there who wants to be hit. Someone other who wants to hit.
And then there is you. What should you do? Will you be quoting books? And telling them what?
#250 Posted by hamidm2 on January 21, 2007 10:56:23 am
Re: # 247
kaal,
...... i hope you are not suggesting that beej is into this kind of thing ! ........... i wouldn`t be surprised, given his penchant for pictures of naked men of dubious sexaulity .....
..... but seriously, wife-beating is a horrible thing and nobody in their right mind, except demented islamists and perverts, would condone it ...................
kaal,
...... i hope you are not suggesting that beej is into this kind of thing ! ........... i wouldn`t be surprised, given his penchant for pictures of naked men of dubious sexaulity .....
..... but seriously, wife-beating is a horrible thing and nobody in their right mind, except demented islamists and perverts, would condone it ...................
#246 Posted by Shah2 on January 21, 2007 10:09:30 am
Re: # 239
B J s Pants are on Fire and he is jumping like Bihari Chimpanzee or Monkey god Hanuman...
B J s Pants are on Fire and he is jumping like Bihari Chimpanzee or Monkey god Hanuman...
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