Ahmer Muzammil January 17, 2007
#237 Posted by bjkumar on January 21, 2007 9:07:59 am
Long forgotten pictures of Hamidm2’s great-great-grandpa Gopinath and great-great-grandma Radhikabai!

#248 Posted by hamidm2 on January 21, 2007 10:40:59 am
Re: # 237
bj,
enough about my drandpa gopinath ! ................... i am glad he had the good sense to take a bath, get a haircut and get circumcised, otherwise i would be stuck next to you in the fetid waters of the ganges ............ phew! that was a close call ..
.............. but where is that rascal abu-sufwaan ? ........... first he was out there beating up on zeena, our fiesty warrior princess, then he insulted my lovely wife and daughters (not to mention grandma radihikabai), and now he is probably beating up on some other women .............. what really surprises me about these islamists is their obsession with women`s affairs - what they can wear, what they can eat, where can they pray, when can they have sex, etc. etc .......i have a suspicion that most mullahs, like catholic priests and gandhians, are unsure of their own sexuality and therefore feel threatened by women, pretty boys, and their young nieces ........... some, like jimmy swaggart and the bishop of boston, manage to get over their fears and get down to business as johns and pedophiles, while others become wife-beaters .....................
bj,
enough about my drandpa gopinath ! ................... i am glad he had the good sense to take a bath, get a haircut and get circumcised, otherwise i would be stuck next to you in the fetid waters of the ganges ............ phew! that was a close call ..
.............. but where is that rascal abu-sufwaan ? ........... first he was out there beating up on zeena, our fiesty warrior princess, then he insulted my lovely wife and daughters (not to mention grandma radihikabai), and now he is probably beating up on some other women .............. what really surprises me about these islamists is their obsession with women`s affairs - what they can wear, what they can eat, where can they pray, when can they have sex, etc. etc .......i have a suspicion that most mullahs, like catholic priests and gandhians, are unsure of their own sexuality and therefore feel threatened by women, pretty boys, and their young nieces ........... some, like jimmy swaggart and the bishop of boston, manage to get over their fears and get down to business as johns and pedophiles, while others become wife-beaters .....................
#245 Posted by subhashjoshi on January 21, 2007 9:54:38 am
Re: # 237 bjkumar
But Radhikabai looks like a Mongol lady to me. Are you sure that`s indeed her? Hamidm has mentioned Germans, Greeks, Latinos and assorted Caucasians among his relatives, but a Mongol, never, as far as I recall.
But Radhikabai looks like a Mongol lady to me. Are you sure that`s indeed her? Hamidm has mentioned Germans, Greeks, Latinos and assorted Caucasians among his relatives, but a Mongol, never, as far as I recall.
#227 Posted by Naqshbandi on January 21, 2007 5:13:34 am
i was hoping some of you ladies would rise to the bait of my post 192 but alas...
#224 Posted by bjkumar on January 21, 2007 4:15:44 am
My dear Zeena,
I am crushed and demolished at your loss of faith in my inability to ``beat up`` women on this board. Perhaps I need to consider that sanyas, long-sought by everybody else at chowk on my behalf, after all.
PS:
When Ms. Saimarana got my first note (in #156), I was ignorant of her gender - not that the knowledge of such detail would probably have made much difference.
#223 Posted by zeemax on January 21, 2007 1:48:28 am
#222 by abu_safwaan
abu_safwaan, I hope your visit to Brazil to set up the cellular towers was a success. Welcome back.
Why I remember that, when noone else did, is because I take this as a serious forum, which can actually change mindsets. And one single mindset altered, will influence a hundred other. And none other than Urstruly who has also been abused here taught me that when I was retaliating and abusing differing and hostile opinions.
You said: ``....do you honestly think they have an ounce worth of sincerity or a molecule worth of quest....
Of-course they do. They have all the sincerity and the quest, otherwise they wouldn`t be wasting their time here.
....denial of sahih ahadiths is no small matter.
Yes it isn`t, but let`s not get emotional about it. It is a text with no empirical proof. Let the deniers discover through experiencing their own lives.
....They are not sincere it’s a jerry springer show to make a quick buck and should be handled as such.....
Jerry Springer is doing a great service. He really shows what`s left in this morally bankrupt thought process, when they`re bored with everything. Then they come out with who screwed one`s sister and which child is whom`s. That is exciting for them. That`s where they`re heading and that`s what they get after having discovered all else. So fine. If that`s the limit of their discovery, let them be.
But, Zeena and Hamidm do not fall in the above category. They are inquisitive, and critical, which is fair. Please do not close the case as being slam dunk as they say.
Rgds.
abu_safwaan, I hope your visit to Brazil to set up the cellular towers was a success. Welcome back.
Why I remember that, when noone else did, is because I take this as a serious forum, which can actually change mindsets. And one single mindset altered, will influence a hundred other. And none other than Urstruly who has also been abused here taught me that when I was retaliating and abusing differing and hostile opinions.
You said: ``....do you honestly think they have an ounce worth of sincerity or a molecule worth of quest....
Of-course they do. They have all the sincerity and the quest, otherwise they wouldn`t be wasting their time here.
....denial of sahih ahadiths is no small matter.
Yes it isn`t, but let`s not get emotional about it. It is a text with no empirical proof. Let the deniers discover through experiencing their own lives.
....They are not sincere it’s a jerry springer show to make a quick buck and should be handled as such.....
Jerry Springer is doing a great service. He really shows what`s left in this morally bankrupt thought process, when they`re bored with everything. Then they come out with who screwed one`s sister and which child is whom`s. That is exciting for them. That`s where they`re heading and that`s what they get after having discovered all else. So fine. If that`s the limit of their discovery, let them be.
But, Zeena and Hamidm do not fall in the above category. They are inquisitive, and critical, which is fair. Please do not close the case as being slam dunk as they say.
Rgds.
#222 Posted by abu_safwaan on January 21, 2007 12:23:27 am
Zee Bhai,
Are you kidding? From these posts that these 2 morons have slathered here, do you honestly think they have an ounce worth of sincerity or a molecule worth of quest for truth or granule of educational intellect that we can actually indulge in some semblance of a discussion with them. I haven’t been on chowk for very long but do you honestly think hamidm has any hope for civility, not to mention basic common-sense.
They should never be indulged in any sort of theological discussion, how can you? They are morons. all they do is telecast us their lineage by disrespecting the Prophets (PBUT). I am not saying we have any capacity to stop that but someone needs to tell these Neanderthals to shut up every now & again. You more than anyone else knows that denial of sahih ahadiths is no small matter. It has been accepted by all our classic scholars that they are as good as Quran. Because messengers don’t make up stuff on their own, everything they say has a seal of Approval from Allah swt and if it doesn’t then Allah swt made the correction while they were alive. But as I have said before I could care less who subscribes to this opinion and who deosn’t, I do care if they pass there delusions as Islam. If they just shut up and lead their confused lives in obscurity then that would be fine but this “isra naumani” syndrome that I will sleep around and produce bastarddd kids as many as I please but I must also be accepted by all 6 million muslims in America as their spokesperson and the greatest scholar that has ever graced this universe is having a domino effect. It’s the easiest way to garb 6 seconds of limelight, but they should never be taken seriously. They are not sincere it’s a jerry springer show to make a quick buck and should be handled as such.
Are you kidding? From these posts that these 2 morons have slathered here, do you honestly think they have an ounce worth of sincerity or a molecule worth of quest for truth or granule of educational intellect that we can actually indulge in some semblance of a discussion with them. I haven’t been on chowk for very long but do you honestly think hamidm has any hope for civility, not to mention basic common-sense.
They should never be indulged in any sort of theological discussion, how can you? They are morons. all they do is telecast us their lineage by disrespecting the Prophets (PBUT). I am not saying we have any capacity to stop that but someone needs to tell these Neanderthals to shut up every now & again. You more than anyone else knows that denial of sahih ahadiths is no small matter. It has been accepted by all our classic scholars that they are as good as Quran. Because messengers don’t make up stuff on their own, everything they say has a seal of Approval from Allah swt and if it doesn’t then Allah swt made the correction while they were alive. But as I have said before I could care less who subscribes to this opinion and who deosn’t, I do care if they pass there delusions as Islam. If they just shut up and lead their confused lives in obscurity then that would be fine but this “isra naumani” syndrome that I will sleep around and produce bastarddd kids as many as I please but I must also be accepted by all 6 million muslims in America as their spokesperson and the greatest scholar that has ever graced this universe is having a domino effect. It’s the easiest way to garb 6 seconds of limelight, but they should never be taken seriously. They are not sincere it’s a jerry springer show to make a quick buck and should be handled as such.
#221 Posted by Zeena on January 21, 2007 12:00:18 am
#220
abu_safwaan
LOL....I have never taken your abusive posts seriously. I am very calm, composed and strong.
This article is about women and I have all my reason to stand up and show all you mullahs what`s wrong and what`s right?
You keep on posting your funny posts and I`ll keep on laughing @ them...hahaha
LOL.
#219
zeemax sahib
Thanks for your sensible post. God bless you for such a beautiful selection of poetry.......
abu_safwaan
LOL....I have never taken your abusive posts seriously. I am very calm, composed and strong.
This article is about women and I have all my reason to stand up and show all you mullahs what`s wrong and what`s right?
You keep on posting your funny posts and I`ll keep on laughing @ them...hahaha
LOL.
#219
zeemax sahib
Thanks for your sensible post. God bless you for such a beautiful selection of poetry.......
#219 Posted by zeemax on January 20, 2007 11:52:13 pm
#216 by abu_safwaan
Easy ... brother.
Ponder upon this:

and this:

Zeena`s perceptions represent legitimate concerns, because she feels them. That is enough ground for legitimacy. These must be acknowledged and addressed. Nothing wrong with that. So do Hamidm`s, though he appears to have already arrived at conclusive judgements in this regard. That`s alright too.
A Muslim, is only if one fulfills the above conditions that Iqbal placed, so that his character radiates out of him. The argument over Fiqh and Hadees has nothing to do with it. The `Muslim` is by character alone.
Be well.
Easy ... brother.
Ponder upon this:

and this:

Zeena`s perceptions represent legitimate concerns, because she feels them. That is enough ground for legitimacy. These must be acknowledged and addressed. Nothing wrong with that. So do Hamidm`s, though he appears to have already arrived at conclusive judgements in this regard. That`s alright too.
A Muslim, is only if one fulfills the above conditions that Iqbal placed, so that his character radiates out of him. The argument over Fiqh and Hadees has nothing to do with it. The `Muslim` is by character alone.
Be well.
#218 Posted by Zeena on January 20, 2007 11:17:18 pm
Oh, God
abu_safwaan and Naqsh Bandi
All these mullahs in action......attacking me personally. Derailing this thread with their nonsense........spending all their energies on me............WoW!!!!
How much insecured they are?
I am really enjoying all this situation. Seeing their mucked up heads , full of rage.
Look @ their Talibanized behaviour.
This is what their Islam is teaching them. And this is exactly this article is about...........
I wish I could see their mullahis and Talibanized faces all riled up, ready to beat their own females.....tsk, tsk, tsk
To take their anger out of their heads........... Preaching me HADITHS... with all their abusive behaviour.....
These two are really women abuser Mullahs with their crazy thoughts.
I feel sad for their family females....how can those poor women put up with their rage?
I am sure they must be beating up their own mothers, sisters, wives daily to control them........Typical Talibani behaviour......
abu_safwaan and Naqsh Bandi
All these mullahs in action......attacking me personally. Derailing this thread with their nonsense........spending all their energies on me............WoW!!!!
How much insecured they are?
I am really enjoying all this situation. Seeing their mucked up heads , full of rage.
Look @ their Talibanized behaviour.
This is what their Islam is teaching them. And this is exactly this article is about...........
I wish I could see their mullahis and Talibanized faces all riled up, ready to beat their own females.....tsk, tsk, tsk
To take their anger out of their heads........... Preaching me HADITHS... with all their abusive behaviour.....
These two are really women abuser Mullahs with their crazy thoughts.
I feel sad for their family females....how can those poor women put up with their rage?
I am sure they must be beating up their own mothers, sisters, wives daily to control them........Typical Talibani behaviour......
#220 Posted by abu_safwaan on January 20, 2007 11:54:20 pm
Re: # 218
Keep on yapping on bay-girl you are making our case for us. But do get hooked on phonics, Lord knows you need it.
Keep on yapping on bay-girl you are making our case for us. But do get hooked on phonics, Lord knows you need it.
#217 Posted by Zeena on January 20, 2007 11:10:22 pm
#216 abu_safwaan
LOL....hahahaha
You make no sense at all. Funny......
Just keep on reading this and then decide who is retard?
Now, look @ this mullah`s abusive attitude. calling me retard and then telling me to find a man for having sex.............This kind of abusive attitude and then they are telling me NOT to laugh @ their retarded attitude.
So, @ the end Who is seeking for sex? And who is retard?
It is so obvious.........rubbish, plain rubbish.
Yes, yes Mullahs I am laughing at your nonsense Hadiths. Come and kill me. I am munkir-e Hadiths.......If, Hadiths are producing such kind of women abusers, then I am better off with my own strong and brave personality who doesn`t need any false Hadiths guidance.
All these weak and evil mullahs discussing hadiths on this board don`t have a clue what they are saying or what their point is? They make NO sense at all and then they took few seconds to start abusing me.
And, funny thing is they are the ones who claim to be religious figuers. I am the one who didn`t personally attack them , yes, I did make my points and they were all fair and justified with out the guidance of any religion.
So, who is the real winner? These women abusers who are discussing all this nonsense and then ready to attack me like wolves and hounds..............
LOL....hahahaha
You make no sense at all. Funny......
Just keep on reading this and then decide who is retard?
Now, look @ this mullah`s abusive attitude. calling me retard and then telling me to find a man for having sex.............This kind of abusive attitude and then they are telling me NOT to laugh @ their retarded attitude.
So, @ the end Who is seeking for sex? And who is retard?
It is so obvious.........rubbish, plain rubbish.
Yes, yes Mullahs I am laughing at your nonsense Hadiths. Come and kill me. I am munkir-e Hadiths.......If, Hadiths are producing such kind of women abusers, then I am better off with my own strong and brave personality who doesn`t need any false Hadiths guidance.
All these weak and evil mullahs discussing hadiths on this board don`t have a clue what they are saying or what their point is? They make NO sense at all and then they took few seconds to start abusing me.
And, funny thing is they are the ones who claim to be religious figuers. I am the one who didn`t personally attack them , yes, I did make my points and they were all fair and justified with out the guidance of any religion.
So, who is the real winner? These women abusers who are discussing all this nonsense and then ready to attack me like wolves and hounds..............
#215 Posted by Zeena on January 20, 2007 10:48:21 pm
[[[[#144 by Naqshbandi on January 20, 2007 7:05am PT
zeena--what`s your problem? we weren`t even talking about women specific issues but about hadith scholarship in general..
Why are YOU getting your knickers in a twist? I swear, lady, you sound like you haven`t been laid in ages...]]]]
Look @ this religious man, who claims to be expert in hadiths.
And look At the language he used for me.
Chowk staff
This is shame for all of us, that this abusive man is around. This is what this man can`t hold his decency and look, he has stooped to an abusive attitude for me for NO reason.
He can`t handle any decent dialogue.
He is clearly women abuser.
Naqsh
If I ask samething for your repetitive post about Hadiths non sense on and on and on.......and then ask you it sound like your mom has not been laid down in ages by anyone..............How will you feel? Or, it sound like your sister has not been laid down in ages.........or your daughter...........How will you feel?
Your kind of men are the reason more and more muslim women are being physically abused.
shame, shame, shame. on your abusive attitude. This is the good example you`re setting up for all other muslims......tsk, tsk, tsk.........
zeena--what`s your problem? we weren`t even talking about women specific issues but about hadith scholarship in general..
Why are YOU getting your knickers in a twist? I swear, lady, you sound like you haven`t been laid in ages...]]]]
Look @ this religious man, who claims to be expert in hadiths.
And look At the language he used for me.
Chowk staff
This is shame for all of us, that this abusive man is around. This is what this man can`t hold his decency and look, he has stooped to an abusive attitude for me for NO reason.
He can`t handle any decent dialogue.
He is clearly women abuser.
Naqsh
If I ask samething for your repetitive post about Hadiths non sense on and on and on.......and then ask you it sound like your mom has not been laid down in ages by anyone..............How will you feel? Or, it sound like your sister has not been laid down in ages.........or your daughter...........How will you feel?
Your kind of men are the reason more and more muslim women are being physically abused.
shame, shame, shame. on your abusive attitude. This is the good example you`re setting up for all other muslims......tsk, tsk, tsk.........
#213 Posted by Zeena on January 20, 2007 10:42:58 pm
#211 abu_safwan
LOL....another mullah abuser, here to harrass women on chowk..........hahahah
I don`t wish to read a word. Your posts don`t make any sense at all. You`re such an abuser. Look @ the foul language you`re using for me......But, I won`t stoop to your low level.
I will just say, LOL and hahaha upon your mental state............another mullah in action.....
LOL....another mullah abuser, here to harrass women on chowk..........hahahah
I don`t wish to read a word. Your posts don`t make any sense at all. You`re such an abuser. Look @ the foul language you`re using for me......But, I won`t stoop to your low level.
I will just say, LOL and hahaha upon your mental state............another mullah in action.....
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