It is Never OK to Hit a Woman

interesting beginning, but your argument was diluted by the rant in the middle. thanks for sharing various meanings of the word commonly used to justify `wife beating`. now, who is going to forward this to moin khan`s wifes lawyer?

Ahmar ! Ur article is very interesting, but I am agreed with half of content. Dialogues are very important & essential, but times comes when there is need to stop the evil deeds like lewdness with power. I am completely agreed with u that our society is not extremist either towards Islam or either towards enlightened moderenation. We also become sentimental about `Mullah`. The word which we used commonly to blame all those who raised their voice against liberalism. The women who elected democratically & obderved hijab or pardah & become active & arguing at the same level with the women like Kishmala Traiq or other PPP parliament members, facing the crtique. What wrong in this that they are daughters or wives of elected members. The agreement in which women can`t vote in tribal area signed also by PPP, ANP, ML (Q & N), why u r just accusing MMA.

I didn`t come a cross any single article where any one criticize media specially TV Channels like TVOne, HUM, GEO on showing scene where women doing smoking & men are drinking wine. ARY showing a show where homosexuality was discussed. Now we can see open scene of kissing on dramas & music shows. Meera came on GEO in mini skirt. In Sindh TV, the culture which they are showing in their songs no where exist in Sindh. Skin tight trousers & open blouse shirts or sleeve less short t shirts are so common, which is not the reflection of society. Previously, we can see PTV drama with family, but now what are the topics of our Indian inspired dramas protestation, polygamy, mod girls (no connection with common society) violation and divorce. That’s why the channel like Masala is getting popularity where women can see the recopies of food

Boss ! This picture is more scary than the conceived picture of Mullah.

Now, its proven that those who drunk also beat wives, pls don`t put all blames just on Mullah

Marriage, as we know it, could become a thing of the past in India!

Under Renuka Chowdhurys recent persecutive law called 498A, a wife can theoretically blackmail the husband and his family, infinitely - even for money, visa, property, or more commonly, to harass her in-laws with the fear of social blackmail, which may arise from any misunderstanding. Under the draconian IPC 498a (2006), any man ( and his dear family ), could be arrested and thrown in jail - simply on any fanciful charge/s the wife chooses to make.

How could any Indian boy commit himself to a girl in future, with such vindictively biased laws in place? The new laws neither take into account traditional Indian values in marriage, nor the normal ups and downs in marriage, and the immorality of taking undue (criminal) advantage of such situations. In fact, the new laws do not even conceptualise a reunion!

With a 98% acquital rate, the government cannot continue to pretend that already thousands of innocent husbands are not being harrassed by this draconian law.
It is time for the government to scrap the domestic version of POTA and bring in laws more in keeping with harmony and equality (`constitutional right` ?) between the accused and the aggrieved in a family.

Suggestions :

1. Implementable only upto two years from marriage.
2. Only husband should be charged.
3. False complaints should be penalised.
4. Medical evidences should be relevant.
5. Witnesses, not blood relative to the woman, should be available.


One hopes that the media does focus more attention on this urgent matter.


Links :
http://mynation.net

Renuka makes personal use of her own law :
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1021027/asp/nation/story_1329371.asp

Renuka intensely grilled by Thapar :
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/act-wont-hit-good-hubbies-renuka/26051-3.html

``Under Renuka Chowdhurys recent persecutive law called 498A, a wife can theoretically blackmail the husband and his family, infinitely - even for money, visa, property, or more commonly, to harass her in-laws with the fear of social blackmail, which may arise from any misunderstanding. Under the draconian IPC 498a (2006), any man ( and his dear family ), could be arrested and thrown in jail - simply on any fanciful charge/s the wife chooses to make.

How could any Indian boy commit himself to a girl in future, with such vindictively biased laws in place?``(Parathab)

is this our Progressive Parathab! -- after decades of bride burning by the ``in-laws`` u r complainin about brides `blackmailing` the in-laws now -- and Indian boys afraid to marry `a girl` -- well then Indian boys should be marrying Indian boys instead of Indian girls ......

Paragraph five is confusing; several contradictory statements are made in the same breath. This paragraph needs to be broken down into at least three separate paragraphs that discuss and support the main topic points, counter points and counter counter points.

Timely idea-this needs to be revised for over informality, organization, rhetorical support.

Re: # 4, nasah,

See this link for a mans perspective :

http://mynation.net/blog/?PHPSESSID=33f31924622a0a495ba8aa33be060094

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If you need to refer to Quran to learn how to treat fellow humans, then God help you.

How come all the versus sighted here address wife (as opposed to wives)?

I am absolutely convinced that it is in the nature of some women and men; that they would not understand the voice of reason until smacked, spanked, or hit lightly. The West has capitalized on this human nature and turned it into a money making enterprise. If you are among those men and women you will simply go into one of those parlours, pay money, and get beaten up by a leather clad hussy - sometimes with a stick.

Now in a domestic setting, since beating a spouse has become an un-necessary taboo, therefore a wife (or husband for that matter) would not dare even ask to be beaten up - just because they can`t go to sleep. Since women are gifted with the ``nag`` gene, they use it quite often and nag their husbands to death in the hopes that the poor sod will trip and give them their fix. Sometimes they get lucky. Men on the other hand lack the ``nag`` gene, therefore, they get their fix through road rage and liquor.

I hope this new translation/interpretation of 4:34 catches on and becomes the consensus .
But there is no denying the fact that the traditional translation/interpretation (``beat her[lightly]``) was accepted for centuries as the authoritative one by consenus of the ulema and the ummah. After all, ``to strike at something`` is one of the meanings of this word. Why didn`t God use a different word which did not have this ambiguity? Centuries of misinterpretation could have been avoided.

in the Usa According to Asra Nomani men and women are equal
they both should be able to Smack each other ......and as Urstruly refered to BDMSwomen make money of Smacking men

urstruly #9 that they would not understand the voice of reason until smacked, spanked, or hit lightly

This explains why you will not understand to any logical argument on chowk. But why ``lightly``? are you trying to get off easy??!! :-)

tolkinin #11 do you follow your own advice at home?

#7 by saimarana on January 18, 2007 7:49am PT
well
do u realy wanna know what exactly women want?

read the most amazing web site you will ever come across.you will miss something if you dont.you have nothing to lose ,every thing to gain.

www.takeninhand.com
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What do you want plz elucidate b/c there is no parsing of the url you submitted

#8 by Kulharee on January 18, 2007 7:51am PT
If you need to refer to Quran to learn how to treat fellow humans, then God help you.

How come all the versus sighted here address wife (as opposed to wives)?

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Which century you stuck in laws have been made in pakistan and in other modern states where polygamy is not permitted besides you take one wives case at a time and do not insert your belief or non belief in somthing....

#13 by tahmed32 on January 18, 2007 9:49am PT
tolkinin #11 do you follow your own advice at home?
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We both agree on that advice Ahmed sb...all is well in my family