9/11: DOB of Islamophobia

Yaar Queeney, what is odd about saying that the wars will only end when the oppression ends? Isn`t that what the statement says? Naak ko aagey sey pakar lo ya peechey sey ... baat eik hi hai ....! (any way you hold your nose is the same .. you`re still holding the nose).

no that is not what the statement means....

Islam accepts there will always be wars until its oppressors have all been defeated.


Now, please do not get exasperated. Simply trying to understand where you are coming from.
Now I understand the directions of your coming with these two statements

For a muslim, Peace is to die in battle.
and
Islam accepts there will always be wars until its oppressors have all been defeated.


for these reeval the inner most workings of your pretty little head. Thank you very much.

Now we can get back to the teasing and abuse.

theek!

Okay dokey!

#161 by queen_cut&paste

No I don`t agree that Muslims will always be at war. Neither have they been always in wars throughout their history. The only point I`m trying to make is that THEY ARE NOT SCARED OF WARS! Get it?

Uff ....

Re: # 125

Mishra,

Agree to most of it.

The medieval bandits of Afghanistan - thanks to the efforts of the US and ISI - now behead people as if it`s an Islamic ritual. The deeds of Zarqawi for the last 2 years had inspired these worthless animals to imitate those Arabs.

You cant reason with them or an Arab state but you an howl aloud abt America and Europe on the other hand. Let them establish an equivalent of American society in the Muslim world first and howl abt discrimination in non-Muslim lands coz, they combine all issues of Muslims and have their hearts bleeding abt problems but asked abt responsibilities they flinch. They cant even say a word in support of he points we raised. Hypocrisy??

Though a non-Muslim I was searched twice or thrice in all (LA, SFO, LV, SJ, WDC Reagan, JFK, DFW) US airports in 2000 (pre-9/11). We have to follow the rules of the land. What’s the big deal?

#159 - thus from your statement it appears that YOU AGREE THAT MUSLIMS WILL ALWAYS BE AT WAR.
NOw why do you find Blair and Bush distateful when they say a similar thing?

zeemax where is your friend Masadii Complexii. Psue Scholarus.....you need his help!

#158 again another revealing statement

``accepts there will always be wars until its oppressors have all been defeated.``

You will find that as a human being you will always be under oppression for one reason or the other. And currently as things stand Muslims seem to find a reason where ever they live as a minority. And where ever they are a majority there is an ultra-orthodox minority who are in a state of agitation - ala OBL and his supporters/seconders et al. Thus this oppression will never stop and hence the war like state will never end - since no one is ever staisfied with their lot in life.

Zeemax mian you need to be careful.....but then what can be expected from a literate macaca....

#156 by queen_cut&paste

Queenie .. don`t laugh yourself silly ... you`re scaring your pet macaca ...

1) I don`t see anything wrong with that statement in the light of what I said. You try rephrasing it and you`ll be wrong.

2) The other statement is NOT true in case of other religions because war is an aberration in those and people are scared to die in war. Not so in Islam. Islam accepts there will always be wars until its oppressors have all been defeated.

zeemax mian, here isanother of your gems
``Islam is Peace at times of Peace, Moderation/Accomodation when warranted, and War at times of war.``

this is true of christian traditions, hindu traditions, Shinto traditions, etc etc. So what is unique about the islamic tradition? What is the issue here? Why are all these guys flying planes into buildings, bombing trains everywhere they can? You seem to have given the reason unwittingly, maybe you do have apoint since you have spent time and have waded the ``ocean of islam`` and dived deep into it.

Please explicate on this above gem of yours, and tell us in what way is it different from other religions!

#155 hahahahahahahahahaha

zeemax you are the one with the intelligence and logic please do it.

NO seriously since you are theone who said it and are trying to establish this view of yours, you please do it. If you cannot then have a bleeding grace to say you got it wrong!

#153 by queen_cut&paste

No .. you rephrase it for me please ... then I will twiddle my thumbs and you can take you macaca out in the garden ...

Re: # 150

further to #153 and when you are caught with your pants down resort to abuse!

then you will have to rephrase your statement, zeemax mian

``For a Muslim, Peace is to die in battle ``

this can have one meaning only. Duality or no duality. You need to revisit it and rephrase it. but then macacas like you cannot foathom reason and logic if it is not not your sort....hence your structuring og the above!

Now go and twiddle your thumbs!

...contd...

Actually I wonder what he would call Islamic Jihad .. the trademark deadly Palestinian movement which was not in the list and which uses suicide bombing as its principal tactic.

#149 by Urstruly

Yes I`m surprised Haider is pretty badly confused.

#143 by queen_cut&paste

Abey Queenie ... tu kahan sey tapak parey? This was a discourse on theology I was having with Kaal and beyond your puny little head.

Anyway, for your simplistic/dualistic mind I will answer your question i.e... ``they mean peace in battle after death only! IF so how, can they suggest that violence is not a central doctrinal theme of their beliefs...``

Absolutely right. However peace in battle not `after` death but `until` death!

Islam is Peace at times of Peace, Moderation/Accomodation when warranted, and War at times of war. All three are natural states of Islam and Muslims don`t shirk from war even in the most severely disadvantaged positions because death is no bogeyman for them either.

See?

Now go walk your pet macaca in the garden.