Irena Akbar September 17, 2006
#213 Posted by haider5 on October 2, 2006 2:51:42 am
hi Zeemax
{Firstly, you mistook my statement for denoting revenge. Let`s re-phrase it at follows:
``If you kill our women and children as fair game in war, we will kill your women and children as fair game in war``.}
i have been in works so could not intract in time. its late but lets strat from where we left.
when i read your answer my mind stuck into understanding the real spirit of ``Fair Game`` in your rephrased notion.
what is Fair Game. as per your rephrased notion you seem like to preach the idea that ``everything is fair in love and war``. again this is not the language of islam.
when i was studying the law on jihad believe me there was not single moment where i could feel that you notion can take place here.
secondly you are trying to put my Imaan on trial. let me tell you alhamdulillah i am a muslim. beleives in one God His last Prophet (pbuh) and the Holy Book Quran. i cannot give not more explanation of my Imaan.
i am working out on you mail. soon i will come up with some objections. but for now i want you to explain the ``Fair Game in war`` then we will proceed on.
thanks
haider
{Firstly, you mistook my statement for denoting revenge. Let`s re-phrase it at follows:
``If you kill our women and children as fair game in war, we will kill your women and children as fair game in war``.}
i have been in works so could not intract in time. its late but lets strat from where we left.
when i read your answer my mind stuck into understanding the real spirit of ``Fair Game`` in your rephrased notion.
what is Fair Game. as per your rephrased notion you seem like to preach the idea that ``everything is fair in love and war``. again this is not the language of islam.
when i was studying the law on jihad believe me there was not single moment where i could feel that you notion can take place here.
secondly you are trying to put my Imaan on trial. let me tell you alhamdulillah i am a muslim. beleives in one God His last Prophet (pbuh) and the Holy Book Quran. i cannot give not more explanation of my Imaan.
i am working out on you mail. soon i will come up with some objections. but for now i want you to explain the ``Fair Game in war`` then we will proceed on.
thanks
haider
#212 Posted by harish_hyd on September 27, 2006 4:03:14 am
#204 by zeemax
Of-course what else can you defeated piss-drinkers can do ...
Isn`t it way better than seeting with impotent rage as bedouin wannabes like you do? BTW, the most famous piss-drinker was awarded the Nishan-e-Pakistan a few years ago. Could it be that Pakis love piss-drinkers, just that they aren`t man enough to admit it?
Of-course what else can you defeated piss-drinkers can do ...
Isn`t it way better than seeting with impotent rage as bedouin wannabes like you do? BTW, the most famous piss-drinker was awarded the Nishan-e-Pakistan a few years ago. Could it be that Pakis love piss-drinkers, just that they aren`t man enough to admit it?
#211 Posted by VRV on September 26, 2006 1:49:10 pm
Re: # 210
TE Shah Saheb,
I came across some interesting persons of Pakistan at Chowk. I never dreamt that there wud be some contrarians in Pakistan. Hope freethinking blossoms in Pakistan.
No disrespect to Mecca or Medina but Saudis themselves are no believers in monuments. Wahabism discourages worship to monuments and more of this pagan ritual that the author was referring to i.e carrying Qoran on one`s head. For Saudis it`s book, book of God but no God by itself. It sounds (carrying it on head) is an extrapolation of native faith into the lives of the converted Muslims, carrying on and on. Even native Hindus (foolish to me) too follow this devotion to the objects (totems) of religion with utmost devotion.
Sincerely,
VRV.
TE Shah Saheb,
I came across some interesting persons of Pakistan at Chowk. I never dreamt that there wud be some contrarians in Pakistan. Hope freethinking blossoms in Pakistan.
No disrespect to Mecca or Medina but Saudis themselves are no believers in monuments. Wahabism discourages worship to monuments and more of this pagan ritual that the author was referring to i.e carrying Qoran on one`s head. For Saudis it`s book, book of God but no God by itself. It sounds (carrying it on head) is an extrapolation of native faith into the lives of the converted Muslims, carrying on and on. Even native Hindus (foolish to me) too follow this devotion to the objects (totems) of religion with utmost devotion.
Sincerely,
VRV.
#209 Posted by bjkumar on September 24, 2006 1:07:40 pm
Irena,
It is perhaps quite true that MANY Muslims have been inconvenienced all over the world since 9/11. But do not forget – virtually EVERY PERSON in the world has been inconvenienced in one respect or another. The blame belongs to the perpetrators of that outrage - and to those who sheltered and encouraged those perpetrators - including members of the community that keeps defending those despicable figures.
It is a good idea to grin and bear the trivial airlines inconveniences!
In any case, whining is no solution.
If there is such a thing as “the Muslims” (a very iffy thing) then that body needs to carry out a certain degree of introspection on why it finds itself in the soup that it does now – and it needs to take REAL steps to address the causes. The first step includes NOT thinking of oneself as a Muslim first – but as a human being first and last!!!
#208 Posted by bjkumar on September 24, 2006 12:59:24 pm
#207 (correction)
The word ``bouard`` should have been ``board``!
#207 Posted by bjkumar on September 24, 2006 12:57:17 pm
#various Zee
Yaar, bechari Irena ne tera kya bigaara hai ki tu uske bouard mein tuttee per tuttee kiye jaa raha hai?!!
#206 Posted by zeemax on September 24, 2006 5:57:23 am
There`re only two kinds of species who consume their own excrement ... one is pigs, the other .... guess .... !
#205 Posted by zeemax on September 24, 2006 5:37:40 am
And whomever wins, you`ll all line up to suck up the dribbling piss of the winner.
#204 Posted by zeemax on September 24, 2006 5:34:26 am
...we`ll watch the fun from the sidelines...
Of-course what else can you defeated piss-drinkers can do ...
Of-course what else can you defeated piss-drinkers can do ...
#203 Posted by masanamuthu on September 24, 2006 5:27:29 am
zeemax,
Your response is fair enough.. Take it easy. I think the pope has started his part.. We can expect fireworks in a short period.. we`ll watch the fun from the sidelines.. :-)
Your response is fair enough.. Take it easy. I think the pope has started his part.. We can expect fireworks in a short period.. we`ll watch the fun from the sidelines.. :-)
#202 Posted by zeemax on September 24, 2006 5:16:39 am
Certainly an attack on Mecca is justified for the motives I detailed. I implore the goras and the piss sipping, livestock worshipping, elephant nose adoring hinuds and yahood and nasara to try doing that.
Go ahead and do it you wimps.
Go ahead and do it you wimps.
#201 Posted by zeemax on September 24, 2006 5:13:14 am
#200 by masanamuthu
Sure it is. Try it asshole.
Sure it is. Try it asshole.
#200 Posted by masanamuthu on September 24, 2006 4:54:07 am
..Attacks on civilian infrastructure including tall buildings, commuter trains etc are a guerilla tactic with the principal motive to damage confidence of the enemy, disrupt law & order, and to bring down the enemy`s economy. People killed are merely collateral damage.
The attack on towers was certainly an attempt on the US economy rather than just the motive of killing 3,000 office workers. Much more could have been killed if that was the motive through a lot of easier and simpler means.
If anyone did 9/11 or 7/7 for the above motive, and not simply to kill office workers, they would be completely justified. Otherwise not.
By the same logic, is it justified to nuke Mecca to take out one pillar of islam (the hajj pilgrimage) with the principal motive to damage the confidence of the enemy on his/her religion..
The attack on towers was certainly an attempt on the US economy rather than just the motive of killing 3,000 office workers. Much more could have been killed if that was the motive through a lot of easier and simpler means.
If anyone did 9/11 or 7/7 for the above motive, and not simply to kill office workers, they would be completely justified. Otherwise not.
By the same logic, is it justified to nuke Mecca to take out one pillar of islam (the hajj pilgrimage) with the principal motive to damage the confidence of the enemy on his/her religion..
#210 Posted by teshah on September 24, 2006 7:36:12 pm
Re: # 200
masanmathu
`By the same logic, is it justified to nuke Mecca to take out one pillar of islam (the hajj pilgrimage) with the principal motive to damage the confidence of the enemy on his/her religion..``
Why to nuke Mekka? Mecca-lovers themselves had previously brought down and rebuilt Mekka without causing any damage to the confidence of the believers. Why not nuke the three Satans with whom they indulge in love-play with `kankaries` (very small pebbles, not larger than a pea-nut)?
It is perhaps only today that it has become quite obvious what the three Satans signify.
masanmathu
`By the same logic, is it justified to nuke Mecca to take out one pillar of islam (the hajj pilgrimage) with the principal motive to damage the confidence of the enemy on his/her religion..``
Why to nuke Mekka? Mecca-lovers themselves had previously brought down and rebuilt Mekka without causing any damage to the confidence of the believers. Why not nuke the three Satans with whom they indulge in love-play with `kankaries` (very small pebbles, not larger than a pea-nut)?
It is perhaps only today that it has become quite obvious what the three Satans signify.
#199 Posted by zeemax on September 24, 2006 12:02:16 am
Once and for all to the various macacas and assorted livestock and excrement worshippers on this board:
Attacks on civilian infrastructure including tall buildings, commuter trains etc are a guerilla tactic with the principal motive to damage confidence of the enemy, disrupt law & order, and to bring down the enemy`s economy. People killed are merely collateral damage.
The attack on towers was certainly an attempt on the US economy rather than just the motive of killing 3,000 office workers. Much more could have been killed if that was the motive through a lot of easier and simpler means.
If anyone did 9/11 or 7/7 for the above motive, and not simply to kill office workers, they would be completely justified. Otherwise not.
Attacks on civilian infrastructure including tall buildings, commuter trains etc are a guerilla tactic with the principal motive to damage confidence of the enemy, disrupt law & order, and to bring down the enemy`s economy. People killed are merely collateral damage.
The attack on towers was certainly an attempt on the US economy rather than just the motive of killing 3,000 office workers. Much more could have been killed if that was the motive through a lot of easier and simpler means.
If anyone did 9/11 or 7/7 for the above motive, and not simply to kill office workers, they would be completely justified. Otherwise not.
#198 Posted by bjkumar on September 23, 2006 8:46:46 pm
Title: [9/11: DOB of Islamophobia]
No, 9/11 was not the date of birth of Islamophobia.
It was simply the day a few mad dogs of Islam came and bit us in the West.
And their ``soft`` sympathizers everywhere went into overdrive - barking all kinds of nonsense!
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