9/11: DOB of Islamophobia

Look, a bunch of your Muslim “friends” flew a bunch of aircrafts into a bunch of our tall buildings, killing scores of our people. The culprit who masterminded that outrage is hiding in Pakistan (like that international smuggler who is also hiding there and keeps planning bomb blasts in India). Previously he was hiding in Afghanistan and the people who were in power refused to turn him over. He is still out there – a fact that scarcely bothers YOU!

Tell me ONE good reason why the West should not be suspicious of Muslims in general – until it is able to separate the good ones from the bad ones?!!

And what the heck are YOU doing to help that separation?

Precious little, from all available evidence!

Perhaps that “Muslim bride” is finding the weight of the Quran a bit too heavy now – and its associated “blessings” (FGM and all) a bit fleeting?!

If your sister was indeed carrying stuff that was harmless – she should have insisted on explaining and should have insisted on her rights - like any American citizen – the fact that she did not merely indicates either that there was some reason to be concerned, or there was utter cowardice in play!

Simple common sense concern for security does not Islamophobia make!!!

But writers like you do everything in your power to add to that sense of Muslim isolation and herd mentality!

[What if those mails are misinterpreted by someone who’s scrutinising them?]
If a culprit mail could be caught and a tragedy like 9/11 avoided, why not? What EXACTLY do you wish to hide?

[You’d also find Muslims afraid of donating to charities that help their brethren in militancy-affected areas.]
What is wrong with checking a bit oneself regarding where your “charity” money goes?! Most Americans would think of that as simple common sense. Why not Muslims?

[And now Muslims may also be wary of using cellphones and laptops in an aircraft.Why?]

The answer:
[Because the 12 men who were arrested at the Amsterdam airport on August 23 for allegedly suspicious behaviour arising out of using and exchanging cellphones aboard a Northwest Airlines plane all happened to be Muslims!]

Irenaji,

Consider the following facts -

1. Every few months a bomb is going off somewhere in Europe, Middle-east, Southeast Asia, India killing hundreds of innocent people in the name of jihad

2. Every other month, Osama or his goons (al-zawahiri) release video tapes to Al-jazeera making blood curdling threats against the west, jews and others.

3. You have Hafeez Saeed of Lashkar-e-Toiba in Pakistan openly calling for destruction of India and Ahmedinijad of Iran calling for destruction of Israel.

Now, do you think the non-muslims have a reason to feel concerned and get sensitive about this or should we just accept this?

The Islamists started all this on 9/11 with the wrong calculation that the west is weak and decayed and will fold in front of Islam like the USSR did in Afghanistan. Instead of that, the west has lashed back with full force and devastated muslim countries and made ordinary muslims pariahs. Since the west controls the world, indeed life is miserable for muslims. But the fault of all this lies with the Islamists. Unless they are isolated and totally cutoff by the muslim world, this situation is likely to get worse. In fact, given what the pope is saying we are heading towards a full-fledged modern crusades, except that there are nukes and the west controls them. I can easily foresee that Iran will get nuked in the next 2 years before Bush leaves office.

If there ever was a “paradigm-shifting” event in our lifetime, it was the outrage that took place on 9/11.

Anybody, who expects the “business as before” status to return, either five years from the date of that outrage or fifty years from it – deserves the title of a dreamy-eyed “off-the-rockerer”!

bjkumar mirasi writes <<< If there ever was a “paradigm-shifting” event in our lifetime, it was the outrage that took place on 9/11. >>>

Really, why was it paradigm shifting, because the US elite says so since it fits in with their broader global agenda. 9/11 was nothing compared to country-wide destruction that US administrations have brought around the globe both pre and post 9/11. Compared to the US firebombing of Japan, and more recently Vietnam and Iraq, it was a machar (mosquito) bite, even then its an exaggeration.

Regarding Islamophobia, it is politically generated and has been going on long before 9/11. Read Edward Said`s book Covering Islam written back in the 1980s. This long process of demonizing Islam was done mostly for political purposes and is resurrected time and again when it is expedient for the Crusaders, the colonials and neo-colonials, and the mullah`s always dance to their tunes helping them in their endeavour.

It is quite baffling how these Hindus on here, the bigots among them, are so obsessed with Islam and all issues involving Islam when their only connection with these broader issues is as appeasers to their Western masters, maybe their hope is to get a few more coolie type jobs that the West hands out to them.

#4 Masadi

(Yaar, tu bura mat maan-naa, lekin main jab bhi tera naam sunta hun to lagta ha jaise “ma-shaadi” (as in marrying mother!) sun liya.)

My dear, of course 9/11 was a paradigm-shifting event!

This article and the facts quoted in there provide ample evidence of the same!

What the US-elite (as distinct from that “holier than thou” Pakistani elite (in khaki and in white)), says or fails to say about that monumental event is immaterial. All those post-9/11 actions that you are crying your crocodilian tears over – would NEVER have happened had not the perpetrators of 9/11 enabled those who wanted to carry out those actions in the first place.

You can cry rivers of tears!

You can spit out tones of profanities till your mouth froths with its own smelly foam!

And you can be a bleeding heart till you get all your blood oozing out from all your pores!

But the simple truth would remain.

The simple truth is that 9/11 created a justification for what would have been unjustifiable before! And messed-up wishy-washy mullah-sympathizers like yourself had every thing to do with that.

Because you guys sat flat on your fanny fat and did precisely NOTHING!

And since that 9/11 outrage, you and your likes have continued to do – NOTHING!

A big fat zero – is what you have all accomplished in terms of grabbing the culprits. And more importantly, grabbing the root causes.

For starters, why is OBL not caught yet? Why is that the most current lead on his whereabouts is over two years old (as per the Washington Post)?

Why, why, why???

For an answer – go look in the nearest mirror!

In any act of crime, profiling based on the ``individual characteristics`` is a simple fact of life. It goes on all over the world! At least in the US, it is assisted through computers which are not biased like human beings are - so it is done in the fairest possible manner currently available.

Security concerns are important and should never take a back seat to ``political correctness``!

And post-9/11, they never shall!

In the past five years Muslim communities have been erroneously stigmatized as terrorists. Many of us have personally felt the wrath of suspicion. Without going into details, it is an understatement to say “9/11 changed our lives.” There is no denying that ‘special’ treatment are afforded at the airports in America and world over are due to our name and country of origin. It is very tempting and easy to understand the conflict in Muslim-Christian/Jewish framework.

But we need to remember that oppressive regimes seek to retain and expand power that rests on grievous economic and political inequities, which often run parallel to racism, ethnic prejudice and religious suppression. Since Sep. 11, 2001, governments have increasingly used the war on terror to target minorities, particularly ethnic and religious ones, and clamp down on their rights.

Washington`s global agenda has to do with economic power, military dominance and geopolitical positioning. As an adaptable umbrella of rhetoric, the war on terror provides superb shelter for what Martin Luther King Jr. called the madness of militarism. And of course all kinds of horrible assaults on human rights become normalized in the process.

The indiscriminate or cynical use of the term ``terrorism`` is also effectively criminalizing and repressing minority groups. Too often entire minorities are being labeled terrorists, in the place of effective international cooperation targeted at groups such as al Qaeda.

Fundamentalists have facilitated isolation of Muslims. Even if one doesn’t prescribe to the extreme ‘conspiracy’ theory that Musliam fundamentalists and the oppressive governments are working together, one has to concede that these two seemingly conflicting forces perpetuate inequalities.

We must continue to remind ourselves that what happened on 9/11 was the responsibility of the Osamas of the Muslim world (even if you prescribe to alternative a.k.a ‘conspiracy theory’, you have to agree to Mullah’s participation).

Next time when you are declined visa, asked to wait at the airport for ‘clearance’, or denied a business opportunity; remember that Osama bin Laden screwed you big time.

#7 imalick

[Fundamentalists have facilitated isolation of Muslims.]

Absolutely. Yet writers like the present one fail to see that simple fact completely!

Is it because they ARE blind?!!

Or merely ignorant?!!!

bjkumar mirasi writes <<< What the US-elite (as distinct from that “holier than thou” Pakistani elite (in khaki and in white)), says or fails to say about that monumental event is immaterial...>>

A perfect trait of the mirasi mentality is that following the logic of incoherent tunes they will try to flip facts on their heads. Saying that the US elite are the same as the Pakistani elite in the actions or lack thereof as he implies is just one part of his idiotic response. By all measures there was nothing monumental about 9/11, more people have been killed and maimed in larger numbers and worse ways than those killed on 9/11 and the perpetrators have been the `holier than thou` US elite that are now expressing ``shock`` at 9/11 for political legitimacy of their barbaric adventures. Of course since those killings fit in with their plundering agendas they were easily legitimized. I am talking about historical facts and cultural studies by experts and he is talking about Fox News and how they define `monumental`` because it occurred in a country this person considers the `city on a hill`, God`s gift to humanity where the superior race rules.

As far as finding excuses goes, 9/11 just happened to be convenient, otherwise there are 1001 pretexts that this elite can think up to justify their unreleated adventures. Even there there is nothing ``unique`` in 9/11 except its convenience, if it was actual justification then they could never have been able to link it to Iraq by deception. Regarding what Muslims are or are not doing is not your concern, you can polish the boots of your western masters all you want they will still call you macaca and hand you peon jobs. When Muslim administrations are firmly in the pockets of the US elite and have changed their agendas and dispatached thousands of their soldiers on command of the US elite, even as they suppress their own folk, that hardly translates as `nothing` and that certainly cannot put the blame on Muslim masses that are largely voiceless and do not side with either the higher barbarians, the US or the lesser ones, the Mullah`s that have been created in Crusader`s image of Islam.

#10 Masadi

[with their plundering agendas they were easily legitimized. I am talking about historical facts and cultural studies by experts]

Yaar, I am not a historian – so I will let the historian-types keep reminiscing about who have been in the past characterized as plundering hordes – and cite their historical facts themselves.

Yes, 9/11 was monumental because it happened within the USA.

It was paradigm-shifting, because it completely changed the way a whole people viewed Islamic terrorism.

Before and after!

So what was passé before – becomes unimaginable now!

Simple as that.

Now come up with YOUR reasons why OBL stills roams around free as a bird in Pakistan – that land of the purest of the purr-purring pure!!

Re:masadi#9

[...By all measures there was nothing monumental about 9/11, more people have been killed and maimed in larger numbers and worse ways....]

Typical mullah rhetoric of the worst kind!! Lets kill 3000 innocent people in Islamabad or Lahore without any provocation and then see your reaction. You will be climbing walls and threatening jihad against the whole universe.

Before 9/11, how many muslims had the US killed anywhere? Zero. They actually saved the bosnians/kosovo muslims from the serbs, sided with Pakistan against India, supported Afghans in kicking out the USSR and so on. They supported Israel out of a sense of guilt for WW2 excesses against jews, but they were also trying to come up with a peaceful solution to the Palestinian problem. Bigots like you are the reason the muslim world is in such shambles and will continue to slide further.

ranjit mirasi writes <<< Before 9/11, how many muslims had the US killed anywhere? Zero >>>

That is why reasoning with a mirasi is worthless, they will keep singing their tunes, supplemented with fuzzy math regardless of the facts. So Gulf War 1 did not involve the killing of Muslims, the decade worth of debilitating sanctions that killed atleast half a million children did not involve Muslims? The willingness of the US to fuel the Iran Iraq war with weapons and intelligence to both sides was not a willingness to kill Muslims, the CIAs desire to fight the Soviets if need be to the last Afghan did not involve the killing of Muslims, supply all kinds of weapons to Israel and supporting it in its extra judicial and illegal killing of Palestinians almost on a daily basis did not involve the killing of Muslims? In fact this idiot with his comic book knowledge of history is talking as if the US involvement in the Middle East started on 9/11/2001. Even real biological macacas can do better with their God given abilities to understand their enviornment, you are even beneath because of your bigotry.

bjkumar mirasi writes <<< It was paradigm-shifting, because it completely changed the way a whole people viewed Islamic terrorism.

Before and after!

So what was passé before – becomes unimaginable now!

Simple as that. >>>

Things aren`t that simple. What you describe as ``Islamic terrorism`` is viewed differently today (post 9/11) compared to ``Hindu Terrorism`` or ``Giraffe terrorism``, ``labrador terrorism`` or ``crocodile terrorism`` is because it fits in with the political agenda of those that define ``reality`` for the world. When they were fighting their farcial `cold war`, images hovered around demonizing the reds and associating all their agendas by hook or by crook to fighting communism and the communist threat. That enemy is gone so another needs to be invented to keep their system churning even as they plunder the earth. Simple as that, enslaved minds take their definitions of reality as assume that those are `real` and they pass their lives living that same lie, people with half a brain who can think know that it is all bs and they have scholarship on their sides and not only the propaganda spewed by the mainstream media. Tomorrow when they feel like the dolphins are to be cleared from a region because of whatever reason, they might be fighting a war against dolphins. Vocabularies of motive of this elite are seldom in tune with their agendas, both are in the open for all to view but mirasis term the obvious as `conspiracy`.

PAKISTAN: Planet of the Apes

Written by Masood Hasan.


http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=24440

Best wishes to the Pakistani apes settled abroad :)

Re:masadi#12

[...So Gulf War 1 did not involve the killing of Muslims, the decade worth of debilitating sanctions that killed atleast half a million children did not involve Muslims? The willingness of the US to fuel the Iran Iraq war with weapons and intelligence to both sides was not a willingness to kill Muslims, the CIAs desire to fight the Soviets if need be to the last Afghan did not involve the killing of Muslims, supply all kinds of weapons to Israel and supporting it in its extra judicial and illegal killing of Palestinians almost on a daily basis did not involve the killing of Muslims?.....]

Ha ha ha!! So this is your knowledge of history, you foolish bigot? Gulf War 1 was a war initiated by Saddam against Kuwait. Remember? Muslims killed muslims first. There was an entire alliance against Saddam at that time including all muslim countries in the Gulf to get him out of Kuwait, that he had illegally occupied. If he had left peacefully, nothing would have happened. So the US participation in that is equivalent to killing 3000 civilians for no reason? Did the US kill innocent civilians directly for no reason? What a moron!!

The Iran-Iraq war was started by Iraq against Iran. Again it was a war. Did the US kill innocent civilians directly for no reason?

You know what, it is futile to argue with a mindless idiot like you. Go ahead with your islamic bigotry and US hatred. People like you are causing the downfall of Islam. So who am I to stop that. Go ahead and continue your damage to Islam.

ranjit mirasi writes <<< Did the US kill innocent civilians directly for no reason? >>>

Unlike you, I do not merely repeat the official version of history that assumes that the world is inhabited by unthinking macacas across national boundaries. Your fellow countryman Dilip Hiro has written several books on Gulf War 1 & 2, check them out. Gulf war 1 the way it was conducted, and how diplomacy was deliberately defeated even though Saddam was willing to relent is well documented, even after he left Kuwait they massacered fleeing civilians and soldiers who fired not a shot on the `highway of death`, considered a war crime by international human rights organizations. There is little difference in pulling the trigger or providing the means, the decisions and legitimation to do the killing. Even where it concers the direct killing of civilians, US warships shot down an Iranian civilian airliner in 1988. If you are providing intelligence to both sides on how to locate and kill their enemies and then providing them with the means to do it, you are just as responsible for those deaths than the pawns that act as your peons. People with a mirasi wouldn`t know their sense of morality as their sense of reason resides in the beat of the tabla and little else.