Feroz Qutabshahi September 24, 2006
#33 Posted by Kulharee on September 29, 2006 6:46:38 am
Re: # 32
Yes HP Sahib, my family still lives there, my Mom runs a meat shop in Hira Mandi. But really, dancing and Music is as important a part of our culture in Punjab as Honor Killings is in Sindh.
Yes HP Sahib, my family still lives there, my Mom runs a meat shop in Hira Mandi. But really, dancing and Music is as important a part of our culture in Punjab as Honor Killings is in Sindh.
#34 Posted by masadi on October 2, 2006 6:24:26 am
Kulharee in #23 <<< You see Masadi Sahib, only a Mulla will go and tell the residents of Hira Mandi what to do and where to go, and you will never see a Kanjar (as you will) or a Mirasi go and tell a Mullah what to do and where to go. >>>
The higher Kanjars, those who are prostituting everything human on the marketplace do indeed tell the mullahs and everyone else what to do, often by force of arms, the mullah on the other hand operates on a different scale. Why the small time prostitutes will not tell the Mullah what to do is because their trade is considered against the law according to the society they live in whereas the Mullah has some political clout that he flaunts. Were the other side to get this political/legitimation authority they would do the same that is why I suggested both need to take care of the other`s sensibilities, crime where it involves harming others should not be tolerated, that is why I suggested that you think with your brain and not other parts of your anatomy.
The higher Kanjars, those who are prostituting everything human on the marketplace do indeed tell the mullahs and everyone else what to do, often by force of arms, the mullah on the other hand operates on a different scale. Why the small time prostitutes will not tell the Mullah what to do is because their trade is considered against the law according to the society they live in whereas the Mullah has some political clout that he flaunts. Were the other side to get this political/legitimation authority they would do the same that is why I suggested both need to take care of the other`s sensibilities, crime where it involves harming others should not be tolerated, that is why I suggested that you think with your brain and not other parts of your anatomy.
#35 Posted by einsteinwallah on October 3, 2006 5:32:56 am
As you become old you tend to think that the type of music and movies young people like are of ``inferior`` taste. Nostalgia is a natural phenomenon. Wanting to preserve old is natural. If bullying of religious leaders is causing good music and dancing disappear from Pakistan then Pakistani people are partly to blame because they are the ones who prefer non-democratic governments who are contantly buying their time by giving free rein to religious leaders.
#36 Posted by Kulharee on October 3, 2006 6:20:31 am
Masadi Sahib, you are so right. You should go back and save Pakistan from goons who suggest that dancing and music is part of our Islamic culture that only saw it’s golden age during the reign of Muslim rulers. Much luck to you.
Einstein. It is not about people’s preference in music. It is about a cultural tradition that is under threat by the Mullahs of Pakistan. Not only music and dance, but other artistic endeavors are in danger of extinction in Pakistan. People’s taste is music has nothing to do with the systematic and deliberate hounding of this trade. If peoples’ preference is to live in big houses doesn’t mean that they should go around destroying shacks of the unprivileged. People can go and F themselves.
Einstein. It is not about people’s preference in music. It is about a cultural tradition that is under threat by the Mullahs of Pakistan. Not only music and dance, but other artistic endeavors are in danger of extinction in Pakistan. People’s taste is music has nothing to do with the systematic and deliberate hounding of this trade. If peoples’ preference is to live in big houses doesn’t mean that they should go around destroying shacks of the unprivileged. People can go and F themselves.
#37 Posted by okhla99 on October 3, 2006 11:11:20 pm
Utterly & Completely respected Masadi Sahib,
Your fans are waiting for pearls of wisdom from you on the Musharraf Board.
Please return there at the earliest.
Your fans are waiting for pearls of wisdom from you on the Musharraf Board.
Please return there at the earliest.
#38 Posted by okhla99 on October 3, 2006 11:22:50 pm
Nice article.
My grandfather used to say something like
``Jin Lahore Nahin Vekhya Oh Janmya ee nahin``.
My grandfather used to say something like
``Jin Lahore Nahin Vekhya Oh Janmya ee nahin``.
#39 Posted by masadi on October 4, 2006 9:28:35 am
kulharee writes <<< Masadi Sahib, you are so right. You should go back and save Pakistan from goons who suggest that dancing and music is part of our Islamic culture that only saw it’s golden age during the reign of Muslim rulers. Much luck to you. >>>
Don`t try to invent straw men to fight against when my arguments stump you, or you don`t comprehend them. It reveals your weak mind.
okhla99 writes <<< Utterly & Completely respected Masadi Sahib, >>>
Hypocritical bastard.
<<< Your fans are waiting for pearls of wisdom from you on the Musharraf Board. >>>
You have already shown how ignorant you are, my ``friends`` don`t need any further posts by me to prove that.
Don`t try to invent straw men to fight against when my arguments stump you, or you don`t comprehend them. It reveals your weak mind.
okhla99 writes <<< Utterly & Completely respected Masadi Sahib, >>>
Hypocritical bastard.
<<< Your fans are waiting for pearls of wisdom from you on the Musharraf Board. >>>
You have already shown how ignorant you are, my ``friends`` don`t need any further posts by me to prove that.
#40 Posted by Kulharee on October 4, 2006 10:06:37 am
Re: # 39
Masadi Sahib, an intellectual of your stature should fight to preserve our heritage and should not worry about stumping people with his arguments. Let’s not have Pakistan turn into Taliban’s Afghanistan. For crying out loud, our history of thousands of years is in danger of extinction. Did you know that the present day Sitar was developed in Hira Mandi? Persians brought a 3-sting instrument (hence the name “Seh – Taar”) to India, and we (which includes your and my ancestors) made it into a 39 string instrument. Are you not proud of this heritage? The present day Tabla Drums were also invented in the Punjab. And please don’t worry about stumping me with your prevailing arguments, as I am only a small potato.
Submitted with respect and deference.
Masadi Sahib, an intellectual of your stature should fight to preserve our heritage and should not worry about stumping people with his arguments. Let’s not have Pakistan turn into Taliban’s Afghanistan. For crying out loud, our history of thousands of years is in danger of extinction. Did you know that the present day Sitar was developed in Hira Mandi? Persians brought a 3-sting instrument (hence the name “Seh – Taar”) to India, and we (which includes your and my ancestors) made it into a 39 string instrument. Are you not proud of this heritage? The present day Tabla Drums were also invented in the Punjab. And please don’t worry about stumping me with your prevailing arguments, as I am only a small potato.
Submitted with respect and deference.
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