Zara Hafeez September 17, 2006
#32 Posted by Z.Hafeez on November 9, 2007 2:38:36 am
This is in reply to #31 RMor,
Sir,
I greatly respect the things that you noted in the article. It is additional knowledge to keep on doing better. So a huge thank you for that. I'd like to inform you and the readers of this article that this piece of writing was not written as a journalist 'reporting' something, rather like a debutant writer. This article was published in one of the Influence Life Style magazine, and keeping in view of the readership of that magazine I was ordered to write in the way a blog is written. I published this on chowk after getting some great reviews on it. Not for exhibiting true journalism.
Nevertheless, I thank you once again for your insightful critique of the article.
Regards,
Zara Hafeez
Sir,
I greatly respect the things that you noted in the article. It is additional knowledge to keep on doing better. So a huge thank you for that. I'd like to inform you and the readers of this article that this piece of writing was not written as a journalist 'reporting' something, rather like a debutant writer. This article was published in one of the Influence Life Style magazine, and keeping in view of the readership of that magazine I was ordered to write in the way a blog is written. I published this on chowk after getting some great reviews on it. Not for exhibiting true journalism.
Nevertheless, I thank you once again for your insightful critique of the article.
Regards,
Zara Hafeez
#31 Posted by RMor on November 7, 2007 3:33:59 am
When the objective of an article makes its appearance in the fifth paragraph, you can imagine what merit the work has. For a journalist/journalism student, this was a moderate effort at combining research from various sources. However, good journalism requires a keen insight in addition to deep drilling abilities, not to mention closely following copy editing guidelines.
For starters, CBS news, the Film Journal and PBS are not the authoritative figures on Indian Cinema. Neither do they have any reputable standing in Hollywood circles. These are merely fourth-hand reports being re-regurgitated for mass consumption. They are not meant to be referenced for feature writing.
For second-hand, you need to go to Stardust, Cinefare, Filmfare, Sight and Sound, Screen, The Hindu, Times of India, Femina, Critic, Cinema Senses, Cineaste, Box Office, Close Up, MovieJuice, Audience, Uncut, The Guardian Movie Section (I think that’s the name), Inside Film, Premier, Screendaily, or online sources such as Scriptmag, Rediff, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. For first hand, you pick up the phone and talk to an agent - any agent, anybody’s agent. There are agents available and open to all levels of reporting, their job is to represent their industry and nearly all do a very good job of it. Even if their talk abounds with gossip, or offers incorrect information, by being in close proximity to someone from that industry will rev up your journalistic instincts to root out other more reliable sources, hence offering credence to your contributions. And there are agents galore at any location near you.
It also helps when writing, as well as in basic courtesy, to put down people’s names correctly, especially if they commonly use a middle name or if those names are so well known (and beloved) as to raise immediate red flags in the reader’s mind, which will often serve only to wash away any vestige of creditworthiness. An example of misspelling in your article – Francis Coppala, correctly spelt Francis Ford Coppola.
Good grammar rarely prolongs pain, and if you use a title for one person (e.g. Mr. Aamir Khan), regardless of whether it is being utilized in a sarcastic sense, you must follow the pattern and give a title to all proper names. A rule of thumb is never to use titles derogatorily. Remember also to keep the tone of an article limited to one or at maximum, two, shades, in order to retain uniformity. No one enjoys kaleidoscope reports, even if they are about kaleidoscopes.
Lastly, comments such as “Who died and made them king?” have a special, revered niche in the sphere of blogging. A print reporter is not permitted such license.
However, regardless of the medium availed of, as a journalist, your first breath must be impartial, as must be your last.
Good Luck.
RMor.
Editor-in-Chief of a daily with a modest circulation of 40,000 during my heydays.
For starters, CBS news, the Film Journal and PBS are not the authoritative figures on Indian Cinema. Neither do they have any reputable standing in Hollywood circles. These are merely fourth-hand reports being re-regurgitated for mass consumption. They are not meant to be referenced for feature writing.
For second-hand, you need to go to Stardust, Cinefare, Filmfare, Sight and Sound, Screen, The Hindu, Times of India, Femina, Critic, Cinema Senses, Cineaste, Box Office, Close Up, MovieJuice, Audience, Uncut, The Guardian Movie Section (I think that’s the name), Inside Film, Premier, Screendaily, or online sources such as Scriptmag, Rediff, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. For first hand, you pick up the phone and talk to an agent - any agent, anybody’s agent. There are agents available and open to all levels of reporting, their job is to represent their industry and nearly all do a very good job of it. Even if their talk abounds with gossip, or offers incorrect information, by being in close proximity to someone from that industry will rev up your journalistic instincts to root out other more reliable sources, hence offering credence to your contributions. And there are agents galore at any location near you.
It also helps when writing, as well as in basic courtesy, to put down people’s names correctly, especially if they commonly use a middle name or if those names are so well known (and beloved) as to raise immediate red flags in the reader’s mind, which will often serve only to wash away any vestige of creditworthiness. An example of misspelling in your article – Francis Coppala, correctly spelt Francis Ford Coppola.
Good grammar rarely prolongs pain, and if you use a title for one person (e.g. Mr. Aamir Khan), regardless of whether it is being utilized in a sarcastic sense, you must follow the pattern and give a title to all proper names. A rule of thumb is never to use titles derogatorily. Remember also to keep the tone of an article limited to one or at maximum, two, shades, in order to retain uniformity. No one enjoys kaleidoscope reports, even if they are about kaleidoscopes.
Lastly, comments such as “Who died and made them king?” have a special, revered niche in the sphere of blogging. A print reporter is not permitted such license.
However, regardless of the medium availed of, as a journalist, your first breath must be impartial, as must be your last.
Good Luck.
RMor.
Editor-in-Chief of a daily with a modest circulation of 40,000 during my heydays.
#30 Posted by discoverer on October 7, 2006 8:58:29 am
Just yesterday I was watching GEO TV program ``Parday main ranay doo``. They showed an old pakistani movie which many remember as Mollaa Jutt aur Noori Nath``, this mivue just like many pakistani movies was copied frame by frame by INDIAN FILM INDUSTRY, however the only difference was that indian version was in hindi and characters names & locations were changed. COPIED movie was called ``Humsay barkay kon`` featuting Dharmendar and Shatrukan Sinna.
C`mon indian why copy don`t you guys have orginality. There are thousands of pakistani movies which became Bollywood`s target. Pakistani film industry was indeed shortlived but we do mange to bring forth some remarkable movies, songs & music which are constantly being chage and modify to suit indian population.
C`mon indian why copy don`t you guys have orginality. There are thousands of pakistani movies which became Bollywood`s target. Pakistani film industry was indeed shortlived but we do mange to bring forth some remarkable movies, songs & music which are constantly being chage and modify to suit indian population.
#29 Posted by mehulkamdar on September 28, 2006 9:03:21 pm
Re: # 1
Absolutely right. All of the south has it`s own film industries, all of which have produced remarkable films. In general, South Indian films have also concentrated on Indian themes without aping Hollywood plots as mindlessly as Mumbai`s films have. And, there is also the magnificent film industry in the Eastern states of Assam and West Bengal. Mumbai is not India and plagiarism in films is not an exclusively Indian trait. To say this, as the author does, is to reflect her own ignorance and prejudice, not quite what makes for a factual article.
Absolutely right. All of the south has it`s own film industries, all of which have produced remarkable films. In general, South Indian films have also concentrated on Indian themes without aping Hollywood plots as mindlessly as Mumbai`s films have. And, there is also the magnificent film industry in the Eastern states of Assam and West Bengal. Mumbai is not India and plagiarism in films is not an exclusively Indian trait. To say this, as the author does, is to reflect her own ignorance and prejudice, not quite what makes for a factual article.
#28 Posted by bjkumar on September 23, 2006 1:44:24 pm
Note: I only read the title.
Jo jis-se milaa seekha hum ne
Gairon ko bhee apnaaya hum ne
Matlab ke liye andhe ho kur
Matlab ko naheen khojaa hum ne
Matlab ko naheen khojaa hum ne....
Ab hum to kya, saaree duniya
Saaree duniya se kehtee hai
Hum us desh ke baasi hain
Hum us desh ke baasi hain
Jis desh mein Ganga behtee hai....
#27 Posted by nasah on September 23, 2006 11:16:04 am
Re: # 25
``If you want to see Hollywood musicals of the 1930s, watch Indian movies of 2006.``
well said harimau!
``If you want to see Hollywood musicals of the 1930s, watch Indian movies of 2006.``
well said harimau!
#26 Posted by jang on September 23, 2006 6:39:26 am
my blood boils when anyone bashes bollywood..i may hate most of the movies but still.
#25 Posted by harimau on September 22, 2006 5:36:49 pm
Ref nasah #12
[``Bollywood movies taking inspiration from Hollywood movies ``(author)
``inspiration``?..... bibi -- don`t be so kind to the Nautanki Walas -- the word is `plagiarism` pure and unadulterated .....mixed with eternally tiring song-n-dance routine -- the only claim to Indianized originality...]
No, there is no originality even there.
That was simply lifted from 1930s Hollywood musicals.
You would see those song-and-dance scenes even in ``Hello Dolly`` or ``My Fair Lady``.
As is typical of India and Indians, once an idea has been copied, it will not be improved upon nor will it be replaced with a new version.
If you want to see Hollywood musicals of the 1930s, watch Indian movies of 2006.
If you want to watch construction procedures of the Era of the Pharaohs, come to India.
If you want to know about banking procedures of the 18th century, go to the State Bank of India.
India: the Museum of the World As It Was.
[``Bollywood movies taking inspiration from Hollywood movies ``(author)
``inspiration``?..... bibi -- don`t be so kind to the Nautanki Walas -- the word is `plagiarism` pure and unadulterated .....mixed with eternally tiring song-n-dance routine -- the only claim to Indianized originality...]
No, there is no originality even there.
That was simply lifted from 1930s Hollywood musicals.
You would see those song-and-dance scenes even in ``Hello Dolly`` or ``My Fair Lady``.
As is typical of India and Indians, once an idea has been copied, it will not be improved upon nor will it be replaced with a new version.
If you want to see Hollywood musicals of the 1930s, watch Indian movies of 2006.
If you want to watch construction procedures of the Era of the Pharaohs, come to India.
If you want to know about banking procedures of the 18th century, go to the State Bank of India.
India: the Museum of the World As It Was.
#24 Posted by harimau on September 22, 2006 5:24:58 pm
Would you Pakistanis please please nuke Bombay?
It would save all Indians the severe embarrassment caused by those crappy Hindi films.
It would save all Indians the severe embarrassment caused by those crappy Hindi films.
#23 Posted by swarrier on September 22, 2006 6:35:49 am
Re: # 22
Ana (If I may dispense with the formalities .-))
Well, there have been Hindi films based on literary ideas on and off (Omkara, Maqbool), Angoor , Junoon (the Shashi Kapoor one), Blue Umbrella, novels by Bengali writers, Amrita Pritam, Ruskin Bond etc. I do admit though that I find regional Indian cinema more likely to delve into both Indian and foreign literature. I have seen far more original material there.
It is a pity that Indian films get more equated with Bollywood trash. But then Hollywood is pretty puerile itself, Indie films tend to be more exploring.
Do not expect a lot from ``The Bengali Night``, though. It could have been done better, I think.
I found some of the treatment interesting. It was almost a dateless, timeless setting but some scenes and dialogues appeared to be very stilted at times.
See ``Lets Talk`` if you have not already. It`s a good film though not really Bollywood. I found Rajat Kapoor`s, ``Raghu Romeo`` and ``Mixed doubles`` interesting.
Ana (If I may dispense with the formalities .-))
Well, there have been Hindi films based on literary ideas on and off (Omkara, Maqbool), Angoor , Junoon (the Shashi Kapoor one), Blue Umbrella, novels by Bengali writers, Amrita Pritam, Ruskin Bond etc. I do admit though that I find regional Indian cinema more likely to delve into both Indian and foreign literature. I have seen far more original material there.
It is a pity that Indian films get more equated with Bollywood trash. But then Hollywood is pretty puerile itself, Indie films tend to be more exploring.
Do not expect a lot from ``The Bengali Night``, though. It could have been done better, I think.
I found some of the treatment interesting. It was almost a dateless, timeless setting but some scenes and dialogues appeared to be very stilted at times.
See ``Lets Talk`` if you have not already. It`s a good film though not really Bollywood. I found Rajat Kapoor`s, ``Raghu Romeo`` and ``Mixed doubles`` interesting.
#22 Posted by ana on September 21, 2006 10:08:21 am
Warrier-ji,
Of course I am aware of the many things that Hollywood has ``pinched`` from other countries. What would this world be like for the Westerners if they hadn`t pinched so much from the East?!!!? I only meant to focus on our part of the world.
There is a fine line between paying tribute, or being inspired, and just lifting off from another movie, in my humble opinion, and this applies to film industries everywhere. I wish I could watch more Hindi films that were based on stories, or plays written by Indians themselves, or even non-Indians, like Shakespeare, or Sheridan, or Julian Barnes and his story about Conan-Doyle and the Anglo-Indian George Edalji rather than turning more to Hollywood for inspiration.
That`s just my opinion though. And thanks for the tip on ``The Bengali Night`` even if you did give it to Bongdongs. I`ll have to look for it.
Of course I am aware of the many things that Hollywood has ``pinched`` from other countries. What would this world be like for the Westerners if they hadn`t pinched so much from the East?!!!? I only meant to focus on our part of the world.
There is a fine line between paying tribute, or being inspired, and just lifting off from another movie, in my humble opinion, and this applies to film industries everywhere. I wish I could watch more Hindi films that were based on stories, or plays written by Indians themselves, or even non-Indians, like Shakespeare, or Sheridan, or Julian Barnes and his story about Conan-Doyle and the Anglo-Indian George Edalji rather than turning more to Hollywood for inspiration.
That`s just my opinion though. And thanks for the tip on ``The Bengali Night`` even if you did give it to Bongdongs. I`ll have to look for it.
#21 Posted by swarrier on September 20, 2006 6:39:07 am
Re: # 20
Bongy, Nope , I, like Shah Rukh sllept through most of the movie ...
By the way if you have not already, see ``The Bengali Night`` based on Mircea Eliade`s book. It has Hugh Grant, Soumitra Chatterjee, Supriya Phatak.
Rather interesting and a bit of a scream at times.
Bongy, Nope , I, like Shah Rukh sllept through most of the movie ...
By the way if you have not already, see ``The Bengali Night`` based on Mircea Eliade`s book. It has Hugh Grant, Soumitra Chatterjee, Supriya Phatak.
Rather interesting and a bit of a scream at times.
#20 Posted by bongdongs on September 20, 2006 6:10:04 am
#18
kya warrier bhai, didnt you get a good insight into the lives of Indian New Yorkers, the mansion`s right next to central park, the babes, the cars ...
kya warrier bhai, didnt you get a good insight into the lives of Indian New Yorkers, the mansion`s right next to central park, the babes, the cars ...
#19 Posted by Ahadaustin on September 19, 2006 11:41:51 pm
Dear Zara
Thanks for the wonderful article and bird eye view of stolen concepts and Bollywood, Dear as well as Bollywood; Hollywood also stole the concepts from French and Europeans films even the dialogues. For Pakistan`s Lollywood is still an infant industry which is in the handle of Old dogs who dont want to learn new tricks form Bollywood.
They BW did not steal some stunning African movies yet, What about the Hong Kong/China?
We are going global, and losing our sorority in each part of our life so as the Bollywood.
Thks & Think Global!
Ahad
Thanks for the wonderful article and bird eye view of stolen concepts and Bollywood, Dear as well as Bollywood; Hollywood also stole the concepts from French and Europeans films even the dialogues. For Pakistan`s Lollywood is still an infant industry which is in the handle of Old dogs who dont want to learn new tricks form Bollywood.
They BW did not steal some stunning African movies yet, What about the Hong Kong/China?
We are going global, and losing our sorority in each part of our life so as the Bollywood.
Thks & Think Global!
Ahad
#18 Posted by swarrier on September 19, 2006 8:06:24 pm
Re: # 17
Ana-ji, Hollywood also lifts from European/South American movies. Sometimes they give due credit , sometimes they don`t.
Re: #16
Bongy you have plagiarised your sentence from the movie ``Albert tere Pinto ko gussa kyun aata hai.``
And please KANK was not a movie. It was one insufferable slow motion shot.
Ana-ji, Hollywood also lifts from European/South American movies. Sometimes they give due credit , sometimes they don`t.
Re: #16
Bongy you have plagiarised your sentence from the movie ``Albert tere Pinto ko gussa kyun aata hai.``
And please KANK was not a movie. It was one insufferable slow motion shot.
#17 Posted by ana on September 19, 2006 4:28:57 pm
ah, `tis not news that bollywood has mimicked hollywood, or been inspired by it, long before perhaps the writer was born. but if we are to talk about ``stolen concepts``, it isn`t just a matter of bollywood hollywood. lollywood has done its fair share of lifting as well. globalization? or lack of imagination?
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