Mullahs: Dulha Bhais of the World

There is no denying the fact that except in their own minds, the mullahs have not done a single bit of good to their religion.

Not a single bit!!!

They have held fast – more stubborn than a mule – to the oldest dogmas, and thought processes and every little bit of archaic inanity one could ever imagine!

They have opposed every bit of progressive thought ever! They have even tried to arrest the very process of the thought process itself – at every opportunity.

They have been the primary culprits for the subjugation and inhuman treatment of women that is widely practiced throughout the Muslim world – including, yes VERY MUCH INCLUDING, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Having said all that, the average Mullah in the subcontinent is really not capable of doing more damage than some rabble rousing. The problem becomes serious when a support structure develops which can use these willing pawns to further their own selfish aims.

In the subcontinent, that support structure wears a khaki garb!

[...You never know what will upset these hyper sensitive creatures of Allah...]

This is the direct result of the constant diet of paranoid anti-western propaganda peddled by the mullahs and their supporters in the muslim world. Everything is an us versus them. Every action a potential conspiracy against Islam - the good ol` ``Islam Khatre Mein Hai`` bogey!!

It is the clearest sign that the muslim world has lost all capabilites for rational thought and rational discourse. Only an insecure and irrational people behave like this on minor matters. Somehow muslims feel that this kind of vocal reaction to petty matters will protect their faith. It does the opposite!! It reduces the status of Islam in front of the world and makes it a caricature of a religion. A more restrained and intellectual approach can work wonders for the faith and the people following the faith.

ranjit mirasi writes <<< This is the direct result of the constant diet of paranoid anti-western propaganda peddled by the mullahs and their supporters in the muslim world >>>

Nothing that the mullah can feed people equals in either reach or technological prowess compared to the ``constant diet`` of anti Islamic and anti Muslim rhetoric that has been fed to the West both through the current mass media and historically through religious and educational institutions. The effects of this we see in the current Pope remarks. The idiot has no modern scholarship that will back up his bigotry to instead of quoting Fox News he defaults to the crusaders of old and their views on Islam.

It is quite baffling to see the interest these Hindu bigots on here are showing in all issues involving Islam. Not only have they no relation to the issues, except as appeasers of their Western masters, they have no clue about Islam, or what it is about. In fact they are even more idiotic than the pope, he quoted an ignorant emperor, they quote tabloids.

Re: # 3

mullah masadi,

............ did you call the holy father an idiot ?............. not that good muslims care about how other people feel, but some catholics might take umbrage at the insult ...........

#4 Hamidm2

Alas, how you misunderstand the Mullah Masadi.

Of couse, he is sensitive to the sensitivities of Catholics.

And would be on this board, too.

Were there any.

You see mian, in the Masadi book, there are no Catholics on this board.

Or anywhere else.

There is no such thing as a Catholic, or a Hindu, or a whatever.

There are only two types of people in his world.

The Islamics and those remaining to be converted!

Re:masadi#3

[...ranjit mirasi writes <<<....]

Just using the word mirasi shows that masadi is a third class mullah of the worst kind. He hates music - something that God has given as a boon to all human beings. Music can make one reach God. Cultured muslims know this which is why they contributed so much to the culture of the subcontinent and continue to do so - an example would be someone like Bismillah Khan - who is a million times better muslim than the entire family tree of masadi.

One can see that masadi has only one culture - ``agriculture``. I guess it is due to his uncouth paindoo roots, where anything of sophistication is deemed unislamic.

ranjit mirasi writes <<< Just using the word mirasi shows that masadi is a third class mullah of the worst kind. He hates music - something that God has given as a boon to all human beings >>>

Assuming things they have no knowledge of is another hallmark of the mirasi mentality. My mp3 player has many tunes on it which I enjoy from time to time. By mirasi mentality I simply am referring to an illogical argumentation technique that damn fools use on here, they keep buzzing the same tune, the logic of the tabla, regardless of the facts. I am not interested in the biographies of those described as mirasis.

hamidm writes <<< mullah masadi,

............ did you call the holy father an idiot ?.. >>>

Yes I certainly did and with proof on his dimwit reasoning ability, proof that is clear for all to see unlike what he presents as `proof` dispariging the prophet, whose shoes he is not fit to carry. In another place I referred to him as a damn fool . Now I wouldn`t say the same about Hans Kuhn who also happens to be a Catholic but is not a damn fool. The mirasis have no problem with anyone saying things about the prophet day and night but anything against their `holy father` is the ultimate sin. Hypocrites

Re:masadi#7

[...By mirasi mentality I simply am referring to an illogical argumentation technique that damn fools use on here, they keep buzzing the same tune, the logic of the tabla, regardless of the facts....]

By that definition, you sir are the biggest mirasi of all on chowk. Talk about buzzing the same tune - US power elites, everything islamic is great, everything else $ucks. You have been playing this tune for months like a broken record, regardless of facts. I guess you deserve to be crowned as mirasi-e-azam of chowk.

Ranjit mirasi writes <<>

Another trait of the Mirasi Mentality, as I have conceptualized (see link) is that they are unable to distinguish between logical and illogical argumentation. It is not regarding talking about the same explanatory variable rather it is that these people have no clue that what they are spewing has nothing to do with reason or logic or fact. That is what constitutes the Mirasi Mentality regardless of subject matter.

The author writes <<< It is unfortunate that Benedict, who shares John Paul’s call for an interfaith dialogue between Christians and Muslims, has touched off a crisis of dangerous proportions. >>>

John Paul was more diplomatic but his feelings on Islam were much the same as Benedicts, so on the scale of hypocrisy John Paul was higher than Benedict, on the scale of ignorance bother are more or less the same, and in following a totally illogical theology both are identical.

This was reported back in March (MSNBC)

``In his former role as Cardinal Ratzinger, he made a statement about Turkey that still haunts him now that he has taken over his new role as pope.

When asked about Turkey`s effort to join the European Union by the French newspaper Le Figaro, he answered, ``Turkey always represented another continent during history, always in contrast with Europe.`` In the widely reported interview, he went on to say that he was opposed to Turkey entering the EU “on the grounds that it is a Muslim nation.”

The former Cardinal Ratzinger seemed to see the entry of Turkey into the EU as a threat to the Christian tradition inherent in Western Europe.``

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Here is another one from 2005, before the ``Rat`` became the Pope


VATICAN`S TIES WITH ISLAM
by Amir Taheri
Arab News
April 16, 2005

While officially there is no election campaign in choosing a successor to Pope John Paul II, the half a dozen cardinals in line for the job are engaged in their version of electioneering. Some have taken to the media like duck to water, heightening their profile through TV and radio interviews. Others have relied on friends to keep their miters in the ring.

One issue that is dominating the debate about the succession is the attitude that the next pope, leader of the world`s estimated one billion Catholics, should adopt toward Islam.

For centuries the Catholic Church either tried to ignore Islam or clung to medieval prejudices borne out of misunderstanding or ignorance. By the middle of the last century, however, the Vatican, the state expression of the Catholic Church, felt obliged to develop a policy toward Islam if only to organize its relations with a growing number of Muslim countries. At the start of the last century there were just six more or less independent Muslim states. By the year 2000 that number had grown to 53....


Ratzinger suggests an alternative strategy (to John Paul) under which the Catholic Church would focus on the consolidation of its position in its traditional strongholds in Europe and the American Continent. In that context Ratzinger has publicly opposed the admission of Turkey into the European Union.

Ratzinger regards a formal dialogue with Islam as a handicap for the Catholic Church because it would assume a measure of equality between the two faiths, signaling to people, especially in Europe, that they can shop around for religion. Ratzinger`s strategy enjoys much support in the College of Cardinals. But it also has critics.

Cardinal Angel Scola, the archbishop of Venice and another contender for John Paul II`s succession, regards Ratzinger`s strategy as ``defensive`` and based on the West`s traditional fears about Islam. Cardinal Cormac Murphy O`Connor, the archbishop of Westminster, goes further and described dialogue with Islam as ``an urgent need``.

``We must find interlocutors in all Muslim countries,`` he says. ``Christianity and Islam have a shared responsibility in defending world peace.``.....In the next few days we shall know who has won the argument in the Vatican.

(edited for space).

Jiahil Masadi, Mirasi is derived from “Virsa” a Farsi term for Lineage. Mirasi community has had music as their Virsa or lineage for generations. Morons like you will never know what it means. And by the way, the other chootiyas who wake up one day to decide that they want to be musicians (in Indian classical traditions) are referred to as “Atai”. I just wanted to educate you, so don’t get uptight about that.

masadi,

...... your paranoia knows no end - first it was the jews, then the us, then the holy father ....... what is next - barney the irritating purple dinosaur ?

Kulharee writes <<< Jiahil Masadi, Mirasi is derived from “Virsa” a Farsi term for Lineage. Mirasi community has had music as their Virsa or lineage for generations >>>

Haven`t I told you to stay away from my posts? If you can`t understand simple English, I suggest you quit your job, take a ``English as 2nd language`` class and read some sixth grade texts. I told you when I said Mirasi, I meant a particular concept involving argumentation methodology and NOTHING else. I was not talking about the origin of the word, who is described as such in traditional understanding or any such thing whatsoever.

Hamidm2, when you have nothing intelligent to say, nothing substantive to say, it is best to keep shut rather than reveal you ignorance. Some free, good advice for you

Re: # 13
Masadi, you make an excellent argument for people referring to Muslim as jokers. Nothing to do with Islam. Insensitive and racist bigots like you may think it is acceptable to denigrate a group (i.e., Mirasi) but raise hell when someone calls Muslims bigots and racially profiles them. Quite telling. What I am basically saying is (since you cant get the subliminal message) is that fix your own house (i.e., insecurities) before venturing out to worry about what others think of you.

{``If you have married sisters, and brother-in-laws (dulha bhai, Jeiajee for Indians), you may appreciate how difficult it is when you have to walk on the proverbial egg shells all the time. ``}

Malick Sahib,
So, if in your analogy, the Mullahs are the Jijajees (Dullah Bhais), then is Islam our poor sister who has to suffer these prima donnas. To take it one step further, are these bearded ones screwing Islam? :)

Calling the Holy Father an idiot is one of the kindest word that one can use - the other being ``stupid.`` Being an educated man, well versed in politics and the inner power struggles of the Vatican, I doubt that this provocation of Benedict was anything other than deliberate. I think that he wanted to hop on the Dubya war wagon and drum up support for a modern Crusade. Taking a page from Pat Robertson`s book on how to increase membership, he wanted his anti-Islamic posture to reestablish Catholicism as the fortress against ``evil`` Islam.

Good article and a timely one regarding a current and hot topic. I agree with your characterization of the hated Mullahs. Thanks,

Re: # 15

Chauhan Sahab,

Many thanks for your kind words.

Even if your assertion is correct that the Pope ``wanted to hop on the Dubya war wagon and drum up support for a modern Crusade,`` it is impossible to defend the violent reaction of some Muslims around the world. These type of controversies such as Pope`s comment and perviously the cartoons are designed to provoke a violent response from the Muslim world and each time Muslims walk right into the trap.

The vast majority of Muslims don`t take offence, but the media`s protrayal of the matter gives the impression that the whole Muslim world is outraged. This misleads people into making comments like those appearing here: massively generalising that Muslims are somehow against free-speech.

Cheers,
Ibrahim Malick