Sajjad Khan September 18, 2006
#34 Posted by harimau on September 26, 2006 3:43:19 am
Ref zeemax #31
[As the Ethiopian said ``when 75% of the world is living on less than $1 a day, and 25% have the rest, how can there be peace?``]
Typical Muslim mentality.
Maybe the 25% got to where they are by hard work, intelligence, etc.
Muslims would rather be highwaymen robbing the 25% as opposed to learning to work within the system.
[As the Ethiopian said ``when 75% of the world is living on less than $1 a day, and 25% have the rest, how can there be peace?``]
Typical Muslim mentality.
Maybe the 25% got to where they are by hard work, intelligence, etc.
Muslims would rather be highwaymen robbing the 25% as opposed to learning to work within the system.
#33 Posted by harish_hyd on September 25, 2006 2:59:20 am
#31 by zeemax
As the Ethiopian said ``when 75% of the world is living on less than $1 a day, and 25% have the rest, how can there be peace?``
I`m sure the Ethiopian also thinks when the 25% hand over all their wealth to the 75%, there will be peace all over. I`m sure he also thinks Arab Muslims are killing Black Muslims in Sudan because the latter are richer.
As the Ethiopian said ``when 75% of the world is living on less than $1 a day, and 25% have the rest, how can there be peace?``
I`m sure the Ethiopian also thinks when the 25% hand over all their wealth to the 75%, there will be peace all over. I`m sure he also thinks Arab Muslims are killing Black Muslims in Sudan because the latter are richer.
#32 Posted by mantra on September 23, 2006 5:12:24 pm
``Islamic`` dictatorship of Bashir versus SLA and Turabi`s ``Islamic`` JEM.
It appears nothing can be done but to make some noise.
It appears nothing can be done but to make some noise.
#31 Posted by zeemax on September 23, 2006 8:35:26 am
#30 by aslam644
As the Ethiopian said ``when 75% of the world is living on less than $1 a day, and 25% have the rest, how can there be peace?``
As the Ethiopian said ``when 75% of the world is living on less than $1 a day, and 25% have the rest, how can there be peace?``
#30 Posted by aslam644 on September 23, 2006 8:18:26 am
sajjad sahib
The question is why darfur is in turmoil, these tribes have lived together peacefully for 100’s of years, the answer is economic, desertification, over-population.
It is not just darfur, it is most of black Africa that’s in turmoil. unfortunately it is a cesspool of problems ranging from aids, failed states, to ecological disasters. Thousands of them are trying to get into Europe every week, most are sent back, because Europe is turning into a fortress, it will get worse there are 750M Africans, in the next 30 to 40 years it may double to 1.5B.
The west is obsessed with the arab world for economic/political reasons, most of whom are economically sound, it is turning a blind eye to the plight of Africans, which it may regret in the not too distant future.
The question is why darfur is in turmoil, these tribes have lived together peacefully for 100’s of years, the answer is economic, desertification, over-population.
It is not just darfur, it is most of black Africa that’s in turmoil. unfortunately it is a cesspool of problems ranging from aids, failed states, to ecological disasters. Thousands of them are trying to get into Europe every week, most are sent back, because Europe is turning into a fortress, it will get worse there are 750M Africans, in the next 30 to 40 years it may double to 1.5B.
The west is obsessed with the arab world for economic/political reasons, most of whom are economically sound, it is turning a blind eye to the plight of Africans, which it may regret in the not too distant future.
#29 Posted by zeemax on September 23, 2006 6:38:30 am
#28 by harimau
So applaud the killings. Just the typical hindu way. But don`t forget these killings may reach your backyard and take your neck as well.
So applaud the killings. Just the typical hindu way. But don`t forget these killings may reach your backyard and take your neck as well.
#28 Posted by harimau on September 22, 2006 5:19:54 pm
It is Muslims killing Muslims in Darfur.
Of course the Muslim Ummah cannot be bothered. If non-Muslims were killing Muslims, the Ummah would be crying buckets.
According to the First Law of Islam, it is okay if Muslims kill anybody, including Muslims.
I really don`t understand why non-Muslims are exercised about this Darfur business.
The Sudanese Government is reducing the Muslim population of the world by a few hundred thousand.
This is a goal that should be applauded by all right-thinking non-Muslims.
Come on, we will be less several thousand Mujahideen and suicide bombers in the future.
That cannot be all that bad, can it?
Of course the Muslim Ummah cannot be bothered. If non-Muslims were killing Muslims, the Ummah would be crying buckets.
According to the First Law of Islam, it is okay if Muslims kill anybody, including Muslims.
I really don`t understand why non-Muslims are exercised about this Darfur business.
The Sudanese Government is reducing the Muslim population of the world by a few hundred thousand.
This is a goal that should be applauded by all right-thinking non-Muslims.
Come on, we will be less several thousand Mujahideen and suicide bombers in the future.
That cannot be all that bad, can it?
#27 Posted by zeemax on September 22, 2006 9:54:50 am
#26 by adamkhan
So look at the advice of masadi in #24. That is what OIC should have done, but didn`t. That is how problems between Muslims can be solved.
So look at the advice of masadi in #24. That is what OIC should have done, but didn`t. That is how problems between Muslims can be solved.
#26 Posted by adamkhan on September 22, 2006 9:10:10 am
Zeemax
What is the OIC? nothing. I mean these people can be rescued under the umbrella of the UN just like the Bosnians were rescued by the NATO. OIC didnt do anything back then did they?
It doesnt make a difference if the killers are muslims, they are killers and they should be stopped. There is no America to veto any security council resolution on this one, so why not use the security council and make a difference here? Or do the Africans have to face a fate that is much worse than what that of the Palestinians.
What is the OIC? nothing. I mean these people can be rescued under the umbrella of the UN just like the Bosnians were rescued by the NATO. OIC didnt do anything back then did they?
It doesnt make a difference if the killers are muslims, they are killers and they should be stopped. There is no America to veto any security council resolution on this one, so why not use the security council and make a difference here? Or do the Africans have to face a fate that is much worse than what that of the Palestinians.
#25 Posted by saminasha2 on September 22, 2006 8:42:26 am
Here here!
When we organize, hold conferences, fundraise, or work towards any social action in private and public spheres, Darfur should be on the agenda.
When we organize, hold conferences, fundraise, or work towards any social action in private and public spheres, Darfur should be on the agenda.
#23 Posted by zeemax on September 22, 2006 7:00:15 am
#22 by adamkhan
Yes the Muslim Ummah CAN make a difference ... but is OIC saying anything? Sudan won`t listen to UN or any goras. They don`t trust them.
Yes the Muslim Ummah CAN make a difference ... but is OIC saying anything? Sudan won`t listen to UN or any goras. They don`t trust them.
#22 Posted by adamkhan on September 22, 2006 4:35:56 am
And there is no anarchy in Sudan? try telling that to the africans clinging to each other under those polythene tents. This is one problem where the muslim ummah CAN make a difference, yet we await the slaughter of the innocent.
#21 Posted by zeemax on September 22, 2006 1:07:39 am
Masadi/Adam Khan
Comparisons with Bosnia are moot because the former Yugoslavian state had splintered, there was no central authority, and anarchy ruled. Thus there was no option but that of international intervention to put a stop to genocide. No such thing has happened in Sudan so no international intervention is warranted.
Comparisons with Bosnia are moot because the former Yugoslavian state had splintered, there was no central authority, and anarchy ruled. Thus there was no option but that of international intervention to put a stop to genocide. No such thing has happened in Sudan so no international intervention is warranted.
#20 Posted by zeemax on September 22, 2006 12:58:09 am
Instead of repeating well-worn moralistic cliches and platitudes round and round, the author should have told us the causes of the conflict and its relevance in the overall context to the collapse of African society.
#19 Posted by bbabu on September 21, 2006 12:56:17 pm
`` The life of a Red Indian chief, the life of a black slave from Sierra Leone, the life of a Vietnamese mother, the life of an American cabin attendant, the life of an Iraqi trader and the life of a child in Darfur should be equally viewed as sacred. ``
The real question is whether they view all lives as equally sacred
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