Musharraf Spilling the Beans—Why Now?

#122. Just a correction here. Jinnah was born in Thatta Sindh (some historians state his birth place as Karachi) and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was born in Nao Dero, Larkana, Sindh. In other words both these gentlemen were from Sindh which is part of Pakistan and not India.

Re: # 135
Zeemax will not happy till he starts seeing this happen again in muslim lands. He is a nazi who wants to exterminate anything and every thing he considers unislamic.

Taliban ask local Hinuds to carry yellow stickers
AFP, May 22, 2001



KABUL, May 22 (AFP) - Afghanistan`s Taliban religious police have asked local Hindus to carry yellow stickers inside their pockets to be differentiated from the majority Muslim population, senior militia officials said Tuesday.

Abdul Hanan Hemat, a senior spokesman for the Taliban Information Ministry said that the demand was only to save the Hindus from harassment during regular spot-checks when police herd Muslims into mosques to check their beards meet strict requirements.

``It is only to differentiate between Muslims and non-Muslims. The Hindus should put a yellow piece of cloth the size of a thum inside their pockets,`` Hemat told reporters.

He was quoting the Abdul Wali, chief of the religious police, officially known as the Minister for Fostering Virtue and Suppressing Vice.

``This is only a demand from the Hindu community,`` Hemat, who also heads the official Bakhtar news agency, said. The demand was only aimed at Hindus as Sikhs were recognizable from their beards and turbans, he added.

He said that the Hindus can flash their stickers to mobile religious police squads patrolling the Kabul and other major cities to ensure women are fully covered from head to toe by the traditional burqa garment and that men attend prayer meetings and do not trim their beards.

The spokesman denied reports that the Taliban`s ultra-puritanical movement had ordered the Hindus to raise yellow flags on their rooftops.

Predominantly a Suni Muslim country, Afghanistan has a small Hindu and Sikh minority.

It officially has no Christians as the Taliban, which controls most of the country, have ruled that any Afghan converting to Christianity would be sentenced to death.

Hamidumdum2 #133 {``........... also, i have taken note of salim mian`s attempt to defame mrs hamidm and will respond at the appropriate time ............ however, i must clarify that unlike the wives and concubines of other great muslims, she was not captured in battle and her father and brother are still alive with their heads attached to their bodies ...............``}

Hamidumdum Sahib,
I apologize for your extreme reaction to my innocent suggestion that you may have uttered the referenced quote from Lt. Gen Khalid Bin Valid (RA, MBBS, DDS) as your marriage proposal to Mrs. Hamidumdum2. As to the good news about the preservation of your brothers-in-law`s and father-in-law`s heads, I am glad to note that they were not part of the German opera. In this age of irrational reactions to well-intentioned provocations, we need a constant dialogue to preclude violence. Thank you, sir and my regards to the Mrs. :)

Re: # 141

zeemax,

..... actually you don`t have to go to miranshah or jalalabad to see the scourge of talibanization - you can simply go to raja bazar, dhok piran faqiran, or saddar bazar in rawalpindi ..........

........... forty years ago my grandmother and her sister, who lived on gurdat singh road in quetta, would walk to the nearby cinema without a burqa to see the matinee show at least once a week ........... last year there were hardly any women on the street, and the few that were out were all cloaked in a gobi burqa - white or blue ............ my gandmother`s sister, who is in her nineties, sadly said, ``my great grand daughters cannot go out like we used to because of the taliban`` ............... as she said that, she looked over at her bearded grandson chewing on his islamic twig and then looked over at her son`s potrait on the wall - a handsome clean shaven man in a striped suit who had been a professor at the local college ......... and the cancer will continue to spread unless radical surgery is carried out with daisy cutters ..........

zeemax cares about butter issues..he cares about how he can disguise explosive gels as butter in his pursuit of 72 virgins...

Re: # 133 by hamidm2 on September 28, 2006 6:59am PT

hamidm2:

I am always learning from your posts. I knew all along that recently converted Arabs were responsible for the Zoroastrian Persian dynasty`s downfall. Also, in Northern Africa christians were forced to pay Jizya, or fight war, or get converted to Islam.

This is how Islam was spread, yet muslims that I have encountered continue to claim that there is no force in their religion. Are these people just stupid? Do they think that they can continue to fool the masses with their threat of violence as they did in yesteryears?

Today`s muslims are trying their best to convince the world that Islam is a religion of peace. How can that be?

Respectfully submitted,

Re: # 146

salim mian,

`` irrational reactions to well-intentioned provocations`` ...... i love that !

..... lately i have been busy trying to prop up the capitalist system which is seriously threatened by professor masadi and his minions and have not been paying much attention to what is going on - has the pope finally declared war against the infidels ? ........... now that orianna is dead, i am thinking of applying for her position as the great defender of western civilization and personal hygiene and am looking for a few good men (and women) to help me in this task ..........

#147 by hamidm2

All I can say to this is that this is what happens when you keep pushing people into a corner and keep using them and discarding them and insulting them ... then they become vicious and rebellious and form an identity completely contrary to yours.

As for Taliban, they`re fine people. They`ll just not be pushed anymore. That`s all.

Re: # 149

behram,

``Today`s muslims are trying their best to convince the world that Islam is a religion of peace. ``

............ there are also people trying to sell beachfront property in new orleans and the bridge in brooklyn is still up for sale ........

#132
``From what I have heard, Pak establishment leads a very ``unislamic`` lifestyle that is both lavish and full of vices including liquor, women etc. Yet the same establishment sees no hypocisy in supporting the Taliban for Afghanistan. Putting morality aside, even from a practical point of view, having a Talibanized Afghanistan will destabilize Pakistan itself by increasing jihadi violence in Pakistan and by becoming a center for international terror - not to mention a completely ruined economy in Afghanistan that would depend on Pak handouts.``


As long as they can profit from the heroin, send their daughters to the best Ivy League schools and drink to the successes of the Taliban in the finest contraband, Pak support for the Taliban qualifies to be called a `principled` stand. If the narcotics industry can buy politicians and state officials with their profits, just think how much newspaper propaganda they can buy to eulogize the Taliban. It is the economy stupid.

#150 by hamidm2

As I had advised you earlier, Buchwald would be a better choice than Fallaci who was just a bigot finally consigned to hell!

some people, and zeemax is amongst them, will never be happy till all the worlds non-muslims are exterminated and everything he considers unislamic.

They are giving us warning here of their intentions (see any of his posts (from 130 upwards). Should we ignore these facists dressed up in relgious garb.

They are facists first and foremost. nothing more than little Hitlers. Unfortunately they are in the process of highjacking religion for their nefarious works.

Re: # 152

Hamidm2:

Keep up the good work in marginalizing this scourge against humanity. You are absolutely right about Quetta. We had some Parsee families in Quetta, back in 1906, when the earthquake hit, and we still do. Quetta, was definitely a different place to live. Now we have these smelley naswaris all over the place. Pakistan must remove these hate mongers, sooner rather than later.

Respectfully submitted,

#156 So, Hamidm wins in this battle against the scourge against humanity!! Congratulations, hamidm.

many years ago i travelled from uk to pakistan by road, and i travelled through afghanistan, believe me they were living in stone age, i suppose that`s the price you pay for avoiding colonialism. what they need is 20+ years of nato presence and massive capital investment to bring modernity.

I think US will start implementing an exit strategy from Afganistan after the November elections. Doing it now will only increase the complexity of the election paradigm. By the end of October or early November Afghan freedom fighters descend to the lower planes and for the next 5-6 months the fighting abates. This has been the historical precedence for the past 20 years. The neo-colonialists will make use of this temporary calm and declare victory and try to get out with in this time frame.

A necessary condition for this exit plan would be the negotiations with freedom fighters, formation of an interim government including freedom fighters, and a negotiated truce. Even though Mushraf was only able to establish a peace pact with Atman-Zai tribe who were never Taliban any way, but the way the Western propaganda machinery is churning it out as a viable alternative for peace means a lot. In addition the way Musharaf the Tatta (Testicle) is peddling the ``negotiated-peace-solution-just-as- we- did-it`` and the way Karzai has started throwing hissy fits, means that the days of Karzai have been numbered. He probably has started seeing himself hanging at the barrel of a tank already. If someone still finds the above argument unconvincing then he must look at the way Western propaganda machinery is uplifting Musharaf as a man of intelligence and pragmatism. The same propaganda machinery just until two weeks ago was portraying him as the patron saint of everything evil that is happening to US - acting as the bad cop if you will. (Bush being the good cop.)


This will create an interesting situation in the pathetic little universe called Chowk as well, when in the coming months the same tattay (testicles) who spare no effort portraying Afgan freedom fighters as scouge of humanity will be singing the hymns of praises for their new allies.