Hang Guru, if that helps

Re:zeemax_mullah_macaca#118

[...That post was in response to ranjeet`s amazingly moronic remark that the people who appealed on his behalf must have had his `authorization`...]

Check out today`s story on http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/oct/05parl2.htm?q=tp&file=.htm when his wife met President Kalam (btw, I suppose you know Pres Kalam is a muslim!!).

His wife clearly mentions that Afzal Guru is not against mercey petition. This is her exact quote - ``My husband is not against the mercy petition. He simply seems to have lost faith in the judicial system,`` she explained.

Anyway, this is an internal matter of India between Indians. We will deal with it. It has nothing to do with pagal kuttay jihadis like you from Pakistan. Chal, bhag yaha se, mulley!!

Will it help if GURU is NOT hanged ?

People will pretend to scream for some days & things will die down afterwards.

#71 by GT

GT, your post is quite unintuitive ... nevertheless ...

Why are you making a hero out of a coward?

How is a person a `coward` if he refuses to plead for his own life?

If he is let loose, this guy will be killed by the ``tough boys``.

Well most of Srinagar does not appear to think so. Are there riots and curfews in Srinagar because people want to kill this `coward`?

Anyway, I am not aware of the details of the case and what information he volunteered by cooperating or which he may have witheld; but as far as I see, a person who is prepared to go to the gallows over asking for mercy is no coward. That post was in response to ranjeet`s amazingly moronic remark that the people who appealed on his behalf must have had his `authorization`; as if his not appealing personally but through relatives would have added weight to the petition.

Afzal Guru forfeited his citizenship by conspiring against the state, a treasonous act. So why the hue and cry over his hanging?

That was fyi. I am still not in favor of the death sentence for an Indian citizen - I would prefer we track down the ISI handlers and assassinate them extra-judicially.

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050804&fname=geelani&sid=6
Part 4 of 7—Supreme Court Judgment:
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In the instant case, there can be no doubt that the most appropriate punishment is death sentence. That is what has been awarded by the trial Court and the High Court. The present case, which has no parallel in the history of Indian Republic, presents us in crystal clear terms, a spectacle of rarest of rare cases. The very idea of attacking and overpowering a sovereign democratic institution by using powerful arms and explosives and imperiling the safety of a multitude of peoples` representatives, constitutional functionaries and officials of Government of India and engaging into a combat with security forces is a terrorist act of gravest severity. It is a classic example of rarest of rare cases.

The gravity of the crime conceived by the conspirators with the potential of causing enormous casualties and dislocating the functioning of the Government as well as disrupting normal life of the people of India is some thing which cannot be described in words. The incident, which resulted in heavy casualties, had shaken the entire nation and the collective conscience of the society will only be satisfied if the capital punishment is awarded to the offender. The challenge to the unity, integrity and sovereignty of India by these acts of terrorists and conspirators, can only be compensated by giving the maximum punishment to the person who is proved to be the conspirator in this treacherous act. The appellant, who is a surrendered militant and who was bent upon repeating the acts of treason against the nation, is a menace to the society and his life should become extinct. Accordingly, we uphold the death sentence. ``

Hang these terrorists quick..........do not show any mercy on these 7/7, Memoms, LeT goons in Pakistan and other convicts..............do it fast so that we can re-affirm out faith in the judiciary and demand quick hanging of the Gujrat riot convicts with the same sense of urgency......... it is time for the civil state to strike back on those who want to destroy the civilian society.................

Once Indians get stubborn about their faith in the Secular and Democratic Indian Constitution the Islamists and TNT mongers would run like rats....................

#105 GT jai kali kamliwali to you too ;-)
i think i write simple..pls let me know what part is complicated. re pakis..well..no.

I do not believe that Guru should be hanged, because I do not believe in capital punishment. I think a life sentence in a high security jail is what he should get. And I know then that there is always the risk of innocents being taken hostage for him, butthat is an issue the state has to deal with-it does not justify judicial killing.

Re: # 108

``there is always the risk of innocents being taken hostage for him``

Isn`t this the alibi of the gangsters who threaten the city with more crimes if they are sentenced??
Sir, the biggest gangster of all who has been following this line of argument is the General who is telling the west that Pakistan would be thrown into a civil war and the West would be made to bend down if he is made to give over the reigns....

This is plain gundagardi and no civil state should tolerate attacks on itself from Pakistani Islamists.

Re: # 112
no, I mean like with the Indian Airlines hijack-there is always the risk that someone will hijack something and want Guru released. At times like those, I do think it would have been better if he had been executed. But that doesn;t last very long.

GT # 105

``it will be nice to know from them what do they want and what are they willing to offer what do they consider feasible and vice versa etc``

Good idea. :)

Guru ji will get life....without parole.

Infact the Pakilund`s strategy of inciting Kashmiri Muslims is identical to the Al-Qaeda operations any where in the world. That is not just coincidental but that is because the PAkistani army and its` elites are at the very core of the terror practices and ideologies of Al Qaeda. In fact much of the financing and recruitment is being co-ordianted by the terror masters within Pakistan as well as the ideological supporters in other western countries. I have seen the wanna be self proclaimed ``intellectuals`` and politcal analysts from Purelund trying to broker peace in the west while at the same time controlling and inciting poor muslims else where.
This is a double game being played by these elites and they are slowly and surely getting exposed. The so called `educated` Pakis are infact the defcto terror masters of this world. The real conspiracies are not envisioned by the uneducated and idiot mullahs- the concrete and real support comes from these so called `educated` Pakis who make those grand jehadi strategies and actively encourage and abet the mullahs to incite the common muslims into getting brainwashed. The worl can see that we do not see any Jehad against the oppressive rulers and dictators- that is because the mullahs do not have the brains to taake any political action without the support and resources of the powerful Paki elites like Hate Potty!!!
The correct strategy to fight communal terrorism would be to isolate these real Hate Pots, put them under surveillance, view their actions carefully, build evidences of their complicity and support and then bring them down.
We must Hang Afzal Guru to send the right message to these terror masters!!!

..continuation infiltration being hogwash. sure, even before indian govt was talking, it was denied anyhoo by paki govt. so true, talking of it is just that, talk. but practically lowering infilteration does help ..fewer IEDs etc. e.g. the firing across LOC has stopped (a big win for indians and peace, thanks pakis) and its less cover for infiltrators. that is yet another step towards ``normalcy`` and then the buses etc. so, yeah..more normalcy, is what indian govt wants, they are not looking for a solution to kashmir, they are looking for a solution to violence.