Aussie Values: Save us the embarrassement!

Amansandhu

What`s the big deal about multiculturalism? Seems like another meaningless phrase cooked up by liberals too lazy to actually think.

``To save Australia from this embarrassment, it may be more appropriate to develop a Diversity Test for politicians to see how much they know about the history of multiculturalism and its role in today’s Australia. How much they know about the contribution made by the migrant communities in making Australia what it is today.`` It will be interesting to find out how much the political class knows about diverse ethnic communities it represents in our parliaments``

A good suggestion Mr. Khan. Similarly, the test should be compulsory for all high school students . If a test were to be taken now, the migrant children will do better than the so called Aussie Aussies. The Gov. should scrap the test as it will trivialise citizenship. After all a person who has migrated with baggage and family has already made a commitment. English language, while immensely useful, is not absolutely essential for the deep personal commitment that citizenship involves. There are many immigrants especially from China, Malta, Greece etc, who have made tremendous contributions without actually knowing much of the language. Australia`s multicultural society should be seen as the nation`s greatest achievement.

Proof, if in fact it is needed, that Islam is a disease that afflicts the mind.

Issa al-Hindi who was indicted in the US for conspiring to blow up financial institutions located in the United States, including the New York Stock Exchange, International Monetary Fund, Citigroup, and the Prudential headquarters, etc. was a Hindu named Dhirin Barot who converted to Islam.

Does anybody still want to uphold Islamic values?

Enough is enough. I am tired of the @#$#@%&*%$@ Muslims on this @#$#@%&*%$@ planet!

Ref yantric #31

[Like the indignation by muslims about Australia. How about talking about the Saudi Arabia and the way they treat people who come to work there.]

Are you talking here about the fact that they take away and throw into trash copies of the Bible and Bhagavad Gita or are you talking about how they treat all Pakistanis as trash?

If Australians practically imprison their imported domestic help and rape them and starve them at will, we will hear even more from Saeed Khan who wants to uphold ``Australia values`` in Australia. However, he will be for upholding ``Islamic values`` in Islamic countries and, God forbid, in Australia if Australia ever has a sizeable Muslim population.

Ref nb #24

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Harimau, most of those who arrived on the Tampa were found to be genuine refugees and have been settled in Australia, NZ and other countries. I found it interesting that they didn`t want to live in Indonesia, though!]

The refugees, who were Afghans, passed through what that dear boy Yasser Latif Hamdani claims to be heaven on earth for Muslims, paradise with 72 houris, 24 ghilmans and free flowing wine, etc.... Pakistan.

They also skipped that other wonderful Muslim country Malaysia which they had to pass nearby. And of course they didn`t want to be among their Muslim brethren in Indonesia, the ones famous for the killing fields of East Timor.

That makes them economic migrants, not asylum seekers.

As such, they have to be weighed against Indian MS and PhD graduates and doctors and accountants and admitted according to their ability to contribute to Australian society.

Those who actually threw their children overboard certainly were not displaying human, let alone Australian, values. They should have been denied admittance to Australia permanently for that reason alone.

Enough is enough! (Fill in Samuel Jackson`s statement from the movie ``Snakes on a Plane`` here.)

Re: # 32
and no one actually threw their children overboard at all, it was a false accusation.

Re: # 32
Those that were Afghans all said Pakistan wasn`t really safe for them, and personally I accept that-so do most refugee advocates. They said there was no way of staying out of the conflict from Pakistan, and they just wanted nothing more to do with it.
Refugee groups have traced what happened to refugees that were sent back to their own countries and in several cases, they were injured or killed. I don`t doubt that these were people in danger.

Like the indignation by muslims about Australia. How about talking about the Saudi Arabia and the way they treat people who come to work there.

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I do not think that a test in English and austrailian history is a bad idea (it will sure help control the terrorism) unless it is a prelude to the apparthied practices have started being conducted in several european countries now, where Muslim immigrants are singled out and families are forced to watch videos showing naked women on nude beaches and gay men having sex or at least kissing (Holland). Then the questionaire asks the questions like how do you like our lifestyle?? So much for the tolerance.

I think Muslims have to be extra vigilant against these aparthied practices and keep raising the level of awareness among the population. Remember that these very nations who now claim to be the champions of human rights have committed the most horrible crime in the history of mankind - holocaust - only 60 years ago. Remember how these nations support and maintain the concentration camps called Giza and West Bank. And last but not least remember how they were cheerleading the massacres of labonese civilians only couple of months ago.

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urstruly,

you say, ``Muslims have to be extra vigilant against these aparthied practices and keep raising the level of awareness among the population``

...... i agree, but muslim immigrants to the west must also respect the values and institutions of the host country, such as democracy, laws, courts, parliaments, armed forces and th right of hetrosexaul and homosexual couples to hold hands in public ......... and even thought they are convinced that they have the perfect religion they must show respect for infidels, jews, hindoos, homosexuals, hindoo homosexuals, ahmedis, women and pigs ............

......... more importantly, they must not walk the to the welfare office to collect their cheese and check dressed in a night gown and slippers ........

Re: # 28 by hamidm2 on October 12, 2006 9:52am PT

Dear Hamid:

You wrote to urstruly {...... hindoos, homosexuals, hindoo homosexuals, ............ }

Can you make a distinction between these three groups?

{......... more importantly, they must not walk the to the welfare office to collect their cheese and check dressed in a night gown and slippers ........ }

And why not? Do we have any kind of laws against them?

Respectfully submitted,

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behram,

....... i knew you would be the first one to pick up the obvious redundancy in my statement !! :)) ........ shabash !

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Well its not just John Howard. Federal Education Minister Dr Brendan Nelson started it last year by saying that those who do not accept and teach Australian values should ``clear off``.
And that those who migrate to Australia should have to ``accept and embrace`` certain values that are ``essentially Australian``: ``Understanding, tolerance, inclusion and responsibility``; also ``care, compassion, reaching out to others, doing your best, pursuing and protecting the common good, treating all people fairly, enterprise, respectfulness, fidelity, comradeship and endurance.``

``If you want to be an Australian, if you want to raise your children in Australia, we fully expect those children to be taught and to accept Australian values and beliefs.``

And not to be left Kim Beazley the opposition leader has sought to outflank the Government in the debate about values by calling for people coming to Australia to agree to a ``values`` statement as a visa condition. This statement should be included on the visa form, with people ``required to sign off on those values``. Mr Beazley said Australian values of ``respect for each other, mateship, fairness, freedom and respect for our laws are the front line in the struggle against extremists and terrorists``.

The Australian values in the visa statement would include:
�¡ Respect for Australia`s institutions, including its democracy, laws, courts, parliaments, armed forces and police.
�¡ Respect for different religions and cultures, for the equal treatment of women, and for hard work.

By the way John Howard has said that he was not in favour of abandoning a non-discriminatory immigration policy because of the message that would send around the world. But he is in favour of reinforcing Australian values to those who intend migrating to Australia. So he will consider Kim Beazley`s suggestion on that Australian visa forms so people understand what was expected of them.
But he says it might be counter-productive if such a message was sent to short-term tourists.
Basically politicians from both sides are trying to score point with the ``values`` debate.