My Ramadan

#149,

“Most of the H1b start at $25-35 range”

Honestly, a family of four or five living off $25-35 range income is actually hand to mouth or lives paycheck to paycheck in most US metropolitans. I know Macacas live frugally and thats why you would never find a Macaca (unless ABCD) in some quality restaurant or in expensive stores with his family or friends.

So Macacas maybe very happy with this income but $25-35 range really is not a measure of success by any means.

Re:bj#148 and hp#149

The problem with Masadi is not that he has two jobs. Nothing wrong with that. The problem is that he thinks he has the answers to world`s problems. He spouts and propagates a vicious concoction of ideology - radical islam mixed with marxist economics - something that hamidm calls ``idiotology``. He gives firebreathing holier-than-thou sermons of this idiotology and calls everyone a ``damn fool`` for disagreeing with him.

Assuming that he is a true believer in his own idiotology, his personal condition reflects the utter failure of that idiotology, while his failure further fuels that idiotology in his own mind. As a result, even if he wants to, he cannot succeed. Ironically his success in US would destroy his own belief system, something that he cannot handle. Yet at the same time, he is not willing to give up and try it out back in Pakistan. My suspicion is that the idiotology would fail there as well. Perhaps a talibanized Afghanistan might find use for it.

All immigrants to the US face an uphill challenge. Its not a cakewalk for anyone. Most of us make it by keeping a positive, non-defeatist mindset, extreme hard work and taking lessons from failure. The fact that most of us do make it here in US in spite of the challenges shows that we are right and masadi is wrong.

And now tahmed joins the chorus. As I understand it anyone who is working two jobs is infinitely more respectful and honorable than someone on entitlements. I think some of us really need to get a crash course in basic human values. Instead of appreciating asadi for working hard to pay his bills, some of us probably need some education on how hardwork always pays off no matter which society you live in. Asadi may not like the US society now but in the long run he will appreciate how he was rewarded by this society for his hardwork.

Three presumably successful people (Hamid, Behram, and tahmed now) on this board just forgot how they succeeded in this country.



#144
I am not into responding Macacas writing childish and unsupported stuff. But just for once, let me refute this nonsense here:

“ordinary hindus arriving from India get six figure jobs in IT. “

There is not a single Macaca in the US on H1b visa who made six figures on arrival. Some Macaca contractors, if they have green card or the US citizenship, make contract rates that are close to six figures. Most of the H1b start at $25-35 range and for years live in horrible slave labor situations that no American would tolerate.

For the record Macacas are actually bumrushing borders.

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/shared/statistics/publications/ILL_PE_2005.pdf

“The annual average increase in the unauthorized population from 2000 to 2005 was greatest among Mexican immigrants (260,000). However, the greatest percentage increase in the unauthorized immigrant population from 2000 to 2005 occurred among immigrants from India (133 percent) and Brazil (70 percent).”

The Ordinary arriving Macaca in the US is actually an illegal immigrant barely making minimum wages in 7-eleven, Gas stations, Doughnut shops or in restaurants. (I am not trying to belittle these hardworking Macacas here but I must say that the Macaca community in the US has the tendency to sweep this under the rug like many other things abt the khasilund.

Here is a little note by a Macaca commenting on illegal Macacas in the US:

“70% of what I have seen are Punjabis - they either cross from Mexico or come on visitor visa and never go back. Try to legalize claiming political asylum. Some of them are ex-militants, so there is a security angle here.

15% will be Patels or Gujaratis. Again they already have established family in US (like Mexicans), so just jump the queue to join the family. Go through primarily fake marriage route to get legal.

5% Tamils - these guys claim to be persecuted Tamils from Sri Lanka. (it is easy to get political asylum if you say you are a Tamil from Sri Lanka). They will have a ready made sob story ready to convince the judge presiding over asylum case.

5% Indian Christians - this is kind of new trend started when BJP ruled India. Suddenly some random attack on church was publicized as an organized political attack on Christians in India and many Indian Christians have started applying for political asylum in US.

Rest 5% - random assortment of Tibetians, Nepalis, Bangladeshis, Srilankans coming using Indian passport and then seeking political asylum.”

#146 Ranjit

It is not how long one fights the battle, but when one enters it and how one fights is what assures victory.

Timing is everything – and you could not have chosen better!

You have made the Tauheed draw back in fear! You made the H₂ evaporate like a gas – fully invisible!

You have demolished mian Masadi, although I am sure he disagrees (plus he was probably already considerably weakened through those unkind cuts of the Tauheed and the Hameed duo.)

You blew away my very dear Behram! (Alas, the rules of the war preclude my coming to his rescue!)

You have made the Zee zip up!

You have silenced the Boomers! Made the Urstruly truly quiet!

And you have turned the HP into a Highly Pathetic “stay-at-home” for fear of what would have happened to him had he dared to show up!

Ranjit, I think it is fair to crown you the winner of this round.

#146 ranjit: i am glad we finally agree on something.

Re:tahmed#145

[..also, per hamidm his pakistani gardeners son has been admitted to Harvard. and i know a number of young pakistanis who are doing as well as these hindus you refer to. so rest assured that masadi represents no one but himself and small group of losers whom you will find in every community.....]

The successful Pakistanis in US are the non-jihadi Pakistanis, who are secular in outlook with nominal religious beliefs. I know quite a few such people and a have a lot of respect for them. And, yes, they are quite successful.

That just shows how harmful jihadi ideology is.

#144 masadi is being modest. in addition to exposing the truth about world politics in-between the midnight shift, he also writes world famous books in his spare time, and gets them published by lulu.com (or so i understand from okla`s posts)!! :-)

also, per hamidm his pakistani gardeners son has been admitted to Harvard. and i know a number of young pakistanis who are doing as well as these hindus you refer to. so rest assured that masadi represents no one but himself and small group of losers whom you will find in every community.

Re:masadi#117

[...Like most others in America, I have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet...if I was unfortunate to have a family here and godforbid a kid, I would fall below the poverty line for sure as many do, or would have to pick up a third job...]

Hey macaca_mullah, so this is your pathetic state? What a loser!! Why dont you do what all jihadi muslims do in USA - drive a cab? You can make a lot more.

As compared to you, ordinary hindus arriving from India get six figure jobs in IT. US firms get Indian resumes and automatically think that they are smart. Thank god we Indians did not adopt your ridiculous religion and its destructive ideology. Otherwise we would also be beggars like you. You and zeemax and your future generations can remain beggars, while we laugh all the way to the bank.

behram,

...... here is a site that might offer some answers http://www.sistani.org/html/eng/main/index.php?page=4&part=1


....... but seeing that you are of persian origin, you might want to check ayatollah khamenei`s site ............

.............. may al-lah give you guidance and keep you from sin (knowingly or unknowingly) ...... if you feel that the shaitan is trying to mislead you, recite the ayat-ul-qursi three times and then take a cold shower ............. here is how it goes :


(I pray) I will desist from the sins of wicked words and deeds and inclinations and directions, which I hold in enough scorn to repent, sincerely (with these words), for whatever sins I would have committed. Get thee behind me, Aheriman; get thee away from me, Aheriman; get lost, Aheriman. May thy many wicked ways, Ghanamino (i.e. Aheriman) be stricken hard and defeated, restricting thee to the inferno of hell. May it, then, come to pass that thy ultimate annihilation be instituted by Ahura Mazda, in the company of the victorious 33 Yazatas and the Amesha Spentas.
ameen and allah-u akbar !

Re: # 1

A month long Ramadan year after year! Come on now !What good does it do to a Muslim? Can`t you modernize a bit for a changed world? Could some one explain to me?

Kamath

Re: # 139 by hamidm2 on October 8, 2006 11:09am PT

Dear Hamid:

Thank you for such a poignant response. I have been asking several of my muslim friends to enlighten me on this subject, but to no avail. However, masturbation is always deliberate. Your notion on having sex in your dreams is not masturbation, it is dreaming about sex. And then, why is the ayatollah restricting his admonitions to muslim men only?

Some food for your soul at the iftar party amongst your coreligionists, I suppose.

Respectfully submitted,

Dear HP:

I do accept your notion that I should not have recommended masadi how to live his life.

Thank you for highlighting my weakness, and rest assured no bloody mary or virgin vodka for me.

Respectfully submitted,

behram mian,

...... i have been pondering your earlier question and inspite of having considerable experience in these matters i am stumped by this question about involuntary masturbation ....... (sorry ladies, this might sound bad, but is a very relvant question this ramadan since the ayatollah brought it up on his web site)

.......... once, okay maybe twice, in my life i have woken up in the morning wondering if i had had sex or not and if i did i guess it would count as `involuntary` sex ......... but i find it hard to believe that anhyone could masturbate without knowing it - even bill clinton who was a master at doing things witout actually doing them would find it hard to pull this one off ............ you can smoke without inhaling, and you can accidently spill your semen on a woman`s dress without actually having sex, but i just can`t see how you could masturbate without being an active participant in the dastardly act .............it blows my mind !......... but the ayatollah says it is possible, so it must be true ............

hamidm2,

You should complement Masadi instead of belittling his commitment in taking two jobs instead of becoming a copy writer for some ad agency. Don`t you think he could even do that with his language skills? Then he could earn maybe more than $1000 a week just as your wall street jobber.

echo
it is fact that marx was middle class, and made his maid pregnant i learned that at school in o`level history.
here is an article by sara rigler jewish historian.

``MARX
The ideology of Communism swept the Russian Jewish world. The first Politburo immediately after the Russian Revolution had a Jewish majority. Within a decade, these Jewish Communists brutally destroyed all practice of Judaism in Russia. Jewish Socialists in America and Israel also actively fought against Jewish religious practices. America`s Workmen`s Circle held their annual banquet on Yom Kippur.
All these Communists and Socialists were loyal followers of Marx, who had branded religion, ``the opiate of the masses.`` How worthy was Marx himself to command such an army of believers?
Marx based his whole economic theory on the plight of the proletariat. Yet he himself was a middle-class intellectual who disdained the working class and sequestered himself for decades inside the British Library in lieu of direct observation of the conditions he railed against. According to historian Paul Johnson, ``So far as we know Marx never set foot in a mill, factory, mine or other industrial workplace in the whole of his life.`` 1
Marx claimed that his economic theories were ``scientific.`` In his time, no less than today, the claim ``scientific`` was the greatest endorsement possible. After all, what reasonable person could argue with the objective findings of science?
Marx`s distortion of the scientific method was to search through thousands of volumes in the British Library, picking and choosing those statistics, sometimes long outdated, which bolstered his already-formed theories. Again to quote Johnson: ``The problem, as it appeared to Marx, was to find the right kind of facts: the facts that fitted... He was not interested in finding the truth but in proclaiming it.`` 2
Karl Jaspers makes the same point: ``[Marx`s] whole approach is one of vindication, not investigation, but it is a vindication of something proclaimed as the perfect truth with the conviction not of the scientist but of the believer.`` 3
Marx not only omitted facts which ran counter to his theories, but also was guilty of distorting, falsifying, and misquoting information which contradicted his contentions. The most glaring case occurred in his Inaugural Address to the International Working Men`s Association, in September, 1864. Marx quoted W.E. Gladstone`s budget speech of the previous year, in which Gladstone in fact lauded the increase in Britain`s national wealth because it benefited all classes of British society. Marx misquoted Gladstone as saying, ``This intoxicating augmentation of wealth and power is entirely confined to classes of property.``
Marx`s flagrant misquotation was pointed out to him, but he repeated it in his magnum opus Das Kapital.





Marx`s worst hypocrisy lay in the sphere of his character and values. Over the last century, millions of young Jews in Europe and America have rallied around Socialism and Communism as the system of ultimate compassion. After all, Marxism`s chief concern was with the plight of the poor, dispossessed working people. Jews have perceived it as a modern-day version of the Biblical Prophets, a clarion call to share wealth with society`s unfortunates.
But Marx himself was contemptuous of simple, uneducated, working class people. In many personal interactions with them, he displayed a vicious temper, heaping abuse on men who did not have the verbal skills to defend themselves. Often given to outbursts of violent anger against any Communist who disagreed with him, Marx had a habit of saying, ``I will annihilate you.``4
Marx is perhaps the most chilling example of how the moral failings of an ideologue corrupt his ideas and all the movements and institutions which issue from his ideas. Marx`s whole goal was to save the proletariat, but the Communist regimes in the Soviet Union and China, founded on his principles, wantonly murdered tens of millions of peasants and workers. It is as if the irascibility and violence of Marx himself insinuated itself into the embryo of Communism; as the organism grew, so did its bent for dogmatism and violence. Stalin and Mao were able to actualize Marx`s vain threats; they annihilated millions.
Nowhere was Marx`s hypocrisy more evident than in his personal life. The champion of the working class knew well only one working class person: Helen Demuth, the maid who worked for his family. Marx, who railed against the exploitation of the workers, exploited his only worker both financially and sexually. In the forty-five years Helen worked for the Marx family, he never paid her a penny. She received only room and board, which for several years was as meager for her as for Marx`s unfortunate wife and children.
In 1849-50, while the family plus servant were living in a two-room flat, Marx started an intimate relationship with Helen and got her pregnant. He refused to admit that the child, a son named Freddy, was his, and had him put out as a foster child. As Freddy grew up, he was permitted to visit his mother in the Marx`s kitchen, but was forbidden to use the front door. The man who claimed compassion for millions of oppressed workers never spoke a word to his own working class son.``