My Ramadan

Re: # 161

hp,

``Expressing opinions is a fundamental right and I appreciate the US more because the country provides me an opportunity to express my opinions freely and without any fear. ``

...... now i am stumped ! ...... but, but (sputter..... sputter) masadi is corrupting the younger generation - he is more dangerous than mark foley ............

...... and besides, ramadan makes me very angry because they want to lock up during this holy month ..........

#172 by zeemax

Thanks a lot Ghaznavi!
That was one master stroke and you demolished the somnath.

I have been enriched by the info. you provided.

P.S:@ afsaana sunanay kaa mood naheeN bUn raha. Bhoola naheeN hooN.

#180 Boomer

Either the lady in the picture has a real SLOW metabolism or she was cheating during the Ramadan.

Getting back on track.

Fiza Asr:
Here is an inspiring & uplifting story about the FIRST Ramadhan of a new Muslim.

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US Reverts Remember First Ramadan

Abderrazak Mrabet, IOL Correspondent

Penny`s Ramadan has been made
easy thanks to the understanding
of her boss and coworkers.

WASHINGTON —May be few born Muslims remember their first Ramadan. But for new Muslims, the first Ramadan is always to be remembered as one of the major steps towards strengthening their newly found faith.

Islamonline.net met several American reverts to share the story of their first Ramadan, their feelings of fasting for the first time, the challenges they faced from their families and workplace, and the support of the Muslim Community.

``I found so much peace during my fast and took interest in reading books on Islam during this time,`` Kamillah, who embraced Islam 30 years ago, recalled.

She started fasting Ramadan even before reverting and accepted Islam on the 10th day of the same holy month.

``The fast was very difficult for me because it was very hot and going without water the whole day was the hardest part of the fast.``.........................................MORE>>>
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2006-10/08/02.shtml

Re #177, Hamid invented that job category to show his ``whiteness`` per Zeemax, who answered your question in one of the earlier posts.

Asadi Sahib

Your ideology seems to be a deadly combination of Islam and communism. Ek Karela upar neem charha.
Don`t you think you should start this reverse revolution in your country of origin rather then where you are residing? May be if the model becomes highly successful then other countries may ask for it and adopt it willingly. You see spread of revolution.

Regards

P.S. Sir, before you start using your favourite words for me , let me make it clear that I don`t live in western country and am not rich person.

masadi
i keep reading this on chowk alot ``sprinkler guy`` is this a new status symbol of those who made it in US. i know at one time of day in UK the ultimate status symbol in UK was having a butler.

ranjit writes <<< Your main problem is that your expectations are too high. The US economy or system is not perfect. It is not heaven. There are imperfections, concentration of wealth and exploitation. It is just that the US system is way better than any other place >>>

Or it might be that your expectations are too low and with those low expectations, you and the people with similar mindsets are accepting the misery of the vast majority of humanity as long as they themselves can ``get by``- not only is that very selfish, it shows ignorance of the direction the world is headed. Ever since the New Deal which rescued this miserable system-like I said, long before the SU went under the US went under- these elite have tried to undo it and society has become more polarized in terms of wealth and life chances, the flattening that is occurring is occurring in the Middle Classes that get squeezed into the new working class, with a tiny elite commanding all the wealth of society, as it is they control more than the rest of the 99% combined, the bottom 40 have zero or negative net worth- these are HUGE numbers, they are no joke. When you say America is ``better``, that sentence is meaningless because there is no other place at the present time that is at the helm of a world system- a Neo Colonial world system. No other place that has so much wealth has it so poorly distributed in terms of basic needs, we have already gone through this comparing poverty levels with GDP.

Then he writes <<< Compare that to Pakistan where unless you are some army person or some feudal`s son, you cannot even get promoted beyond entry level. The imperfections there are so vast that most people would give their right arm to get out of Pakistan or India to come here. >>>

Why do you think conditions like this exist in those parts of the world? Why is it that India was just as well developed, its people much more cultured than the backward West that was groveling in its dung, just a few hundred years back and now like the rest of the `colored` world is in the backwaters? If you can answer that question maybe you will understand why those conditions exist. This petty corruption that exists all over Asia and Africa, which in the most part have retained the bureaucratic setup of colonial times, is because of these ``Anglo Saxon`` overlords that developed this bureaucracy to keep the people in check by use of local elite, a similar phenomenon is seen in the US ghettos. Let me quote something for you from Massey and Denton`s standard work on the US ghetto:

“The rise of the ghetto, more than anything else, brought about the eclipse of the old elite of integrationist blacks who dominated African American affairs in the northern cities before 1910…the (profit) interest of these “New Negroes” economic and political leaders were tied to the ghetto and its concerns.” (Massey & Denton 1993:40)

In fact the similarities are so stark that they cannot be overlooked. So you want to fit in or do you want to dismantle the ghetto, you cannot do both. You resist the system and at the very least they will smell your opposition and block your advancement. I choose the path of resistance, a path to life for the world and for future generations.

Tahmed writes <<< the problem i have is with the pretentious, insulting, and dishonest stuff he writes that stands out even by chowk`s lax standards. >>>

The only problem that you have with me is that I expose the barbarism of your false gods, the US elite, nothing in that is dishonest or you would have happily pointed it out. Everytime you have brought your dishonestly fake arguments (like presenting the example of Queens to show there is no discrimination against Blacks when national data shows three times the poverty level etc) they have been dismantled. You have no argument except Ad hominem, and then have the audacity of talking about `insults`. You`re a hypocrite, plain and simple and HP is slowly recognizing your true nature, which is very good.

ranjit: i read your response on the ``musharraf spilling the beans`` board that is off the front page now. thanks for explaining your resentment of behram (i.e. on account of his ``savage treatment`` of indians on chowk). while behram can no doubt speak in his defense, in all fairness you should see that his reaction is in response to gratuitous insults to pakistanis by indians. also, you go too far when you write that his being a member of the parsee community means he is expected to behave differently than other pakistanis (more specifically, that he owes a certain level of deference to hindus in india). i think you need to reflect on the attitude towards minorities and this indicates on your part

while we are on the subject of resentments - let me also add that i found your expressions of joy at the earthquake victims plight last year to be offensive. i dont ask for explanations, but suggest you include this as well in the self-reflection. For myself, on this first grim anniversary of that tragedy, i hereby let go of my resentment at that post you wrote about the earthquake victims. :-)

I will also add that i think (based on the posts you have written since then) you are intelligent and honest enough for self-reflection and improvement and hope you will read the above in a positive light.

Re:zeemax#172

Who know what is the exact number? Anyway, check this link out....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BEN108A.html

It mentions the issue of racism in Israeli society targeted at the Sephardim who are a majority as compared to the Ashkenazi who are the European jews and a minority of the population.

Anyway, my position is that I support a secular society while you support an Islamic one, whatever that means. Maybe you can define an Islamic society for us. Is Pakistan Islamic? Is Iran Islamic? Is Saudi Arabia Islamic?

hp: i second what hamidm writes about masadi. it is not his holding two jobs that i have a problem with - i am all for hard work. the problem i have is with the pretentious, insulting, and dishonest stuff he writes that stands out even by chowk`s lax standards.

#170 by ranjit

Yeah I know what it says ... except that jewfaq.org is WRONG. Why did you ignore my assertion that actually Mizrachim are just 2.0 million out of 7.0 million in Israel?

Here, do the following:

Easy Instructions: Open www.wikipedia.org and type ``Mizrachim``. Then come back.

Anyway ... so hinooods ... what do you think about the DPRK firecracker? Is your master shivering now?

Re:zeemax#168

Stop jumping up and down like a macaca. Just read your own post.

It says - ``Sephardic Jews are often subdivided into Sephardim (from Spain and Portugal) and Mizrachim (from the Northern Africa and the Middle East) ... In Israel, a little more than half of all Jews are Mizrachim``.

What does this mean? Little more than half of all jews are Mizrachim i.e. from North Africa and Middle East. So that means Mizrachims are a majority, kapish? I am not even counting the spanish and portugese there.

Anyway, it is futile to argue with a macaca_mullah like you.

Re:masadi#167

[..There is no hard and fast ``economic`` rule that says that ceos should make several hundred times what a worker makes, there is no ``supply and demand`` explanation for that, it is because of power and privilage and a skewed extremely concentrated economy....]

Your main problem is that your expectations are too high. The US economy or system is not perfect. It is not heaven. There are imperfections, concentration of wealth and exploitation. It is just that the US system is way better than any other place. Life is relative, masadi. If the US was not there, the code coolies would starve in India looking for a government job, trying to get money for a bribe so that they can get a clerical job. With the US around, millions within India and those coming to the US have at least some shot to make a life for themselves. Once they come here, they get a fairly good chance to reach upper middle class and most accomplish it.

The illigeal immigrants from Mexico or other places continue in sweat shops their whole lives. But anyone with decent skill sets is able to move up the rung. That is because the US system is fairly flat and the class system kicks in only at the very highest levels. Compare that to Pakistan where unless you are some army person or some feudal`s son, you cannot even get promoted beyond entry level. The imperfections there are so vast that most people would give their right arm to get out of Pakistan or India to come here.

[..Forget about what matters to human beings and how they can live a decent life, worry about what you can whore in the marketplace.....]

Very idealistic thoughts. Reminds me of Guru Dutt and his movies in India like Pyaasa and Kaagaz ke Phool - ``Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye to kya hai?`` Masadi, I understand your sentiments but this is the real world. We all wish we had high paying jobs with no stress where we could pursue intellectual/cultural pursuits in perfect equality. Par kya kare, paapi pet ka sawal hai!! We can either all renounce life and become monks, commit suicide, turn into jihadis or we can make the best of what is there on this planet.

# 148 Bjkumar re #146 Ranjit,

Before you start a macaca dance with moron_macaca, can you ask him why he ran and hid after I refuted his ridiculous claim on the Kashmir board that Middle-Eastern Jews are a mojority in Israel?

For ready reference:

#191 by zeemax re #183 moronic_macaca:

in response to zeemax #170: [...You mean these are Syrian jews/palestinian jews etc .. not European jews! ....Source please ...]

He says:

....the following link that tells u that sephardic jews are a majority in Israel.
http://www.jewfaq.org/ashkseph.htm

Hmmm ... hell of an authentic source in JewFaq.org titled `Judaism 101`, but anyway it says:

``Sephardic Jews are often subdivided into Sephardim (from Spain and Portugal) and Mizrachim (from the Northern Africa and the Middle East) ... In Israel, a little more than half of all Jews are Mizrachim``.

Remove Spanish and Portuguese and you`re left with Mizrachim, who total 2.0 million out of total Israeli May 2006 est. of over 7.0 million.

Majority? Even with this malicious description which includes `Middle-Eastern Jews` within `Sephardic`?

However, at the same time Wikipedia says:

A Sephardi is a Jew originating in the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal) , including the descendants of those subject to expulsion from Spain by order of the Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella (as codified in the Alhambra decree of 1492), or from Portugal by order of King Manuel I in 1497.

So what our friend the macaca is doing is to count all those jews kicked out of Spain and Portugal as `Arabs` after end of their `freedom & liberty` after Muslim rule . But even then, this `majority` contention is simply moronic. But nice try.

Happy googling macaca. You might find another jewfaq.org to argue further.