My Ramadan

#48

man, so I`m not the only one! My (mexican) halal butcher looks at me with disdain when I ask for 2 lb front-leg right after the two somali`s and the pakistani-unkal-ji ahead of me have carved up 5 goats between themselves.

Its like thanksgiving for goats!

Ref ally #42

[Hmmmmm Harimau ji and what do you say of Karva Chot vrat that my Big Indian Baji/Didi`s keep for their hubby`s long life, here in London?]

Having a niece who has married a UPwallah, I can say honestly that I have some familiarity with the Karva Chot vrat. It requires the wife to fast during the day and wait till the husband finishes his dinner at night before eating. I think it strengthens the bond between the husband and the wife.

While you may say that Ramzan similarly strengthens the bond between Muslims and Allah, I find it tough to accept that if I were in a country as liberal as Bahrain is supposed to be, I as a non-Muslim would not able to eat anywhere except in the privacy of my home during Ramzan.

Perhaps we should pass a law in India forcing Muslims to observe the fast during Ramzan. After all Indian Muslims have demanded and succesfully obtained Sharia law for civil matters. We should make them enjoy amputation of limbs, stoning to death. public beheadings, etc., and spread the Law of Allah among the Momeen.

[What about Pooja, PaTh, Aarthi etc, these all too are rituals. They are not nonsensical but provide us with something, thats why we do them. Just because you study at Berkely doesnt mean that rituals you were brought up with will cease to affect you, or you will not get something from them.

How would your reaction have been had this been some Hindu girl from Mumbai reminiscing about Navratri or Dusehra???]

I would have asked the Hindu girl from Mumbai to send me some mithai! Honest!

PS. I do agree that puja, etc., are all rituals used to keep brahmins in employment and keep down folks like Soysauce who fully deserves to be kept down.

hamidm writes <<< a ramadhan story for masadi
by: Howard Schultz
Founder of Starbucks >>>

There is much more to that person`s biography than what you present, the happy coincidences that led to this person`s advancement are shared by so few, just like the few ghetto dwellers that become basketball stars, that banking on it and following it as a dream is a pipe dream. A new opium of the masses, keep them chasing a dream they will never attain while they fill the coffers of ther rich with massive surplus.

Iron mask states <<< Ask any of the editors of the boards he has frequented. he has been banned from most of them. My guess is that chowk tolerates this charlatan for they know his MO. >>>

I have never been banned from any board I have visited and I haven`t visted that many. People with weak minds and morals like you and tahmed will lie shamelessly without fact. Unlike you, I have made original contributions to this board and many that are not as pathetically ungrateful as you have used those posts to better understand their world. I don`t spend my time here to interact with rats like you, my purpose here is to present for the sincere an image of their world that is deliberately hidden from them by the bs of the mass media. You and your friends like wasif are unable to form a decent argument, or to reason beyond a retard`s level, your contributions to this site are less than zero, by your bs and distractions you try to derail all those who are trying to share ideas, by allowing and tolering your kind here, a degenate kind that pops up whenever Islam is mentioned for the purpose of hate and bigotry, the editors ensure that Chowk is reduced to a garbage dump for which they are fully responsible

Re: # 16

masadi

Showing off your fasting perhaps! But as I see you don`t need fasting to make a show of your religious sensibility.

As I had stated in my previous post I am ignorant about rituals which I understand are no innovation of Muhammadan Islam but were being observed even by pre-Islamic people irrespective of the faith-labels they carried, albeit with different reasons.

You say Easter is an eid of Christians to celebrate resurrection of Christ. Can you please tell me why Muslim Eid, which is perhaps an Arabic version of Eister, is celebrated?

Please write your reply only after you have broken your fast in the American evenig.

With regards

Re 53

Whatever the reasons are for Muslims to celebrate Eid, it certainly has NOTHING to do with the resurrection and crucifixion of Jesus. I am not interested in answering your dumb questions.

Re: # 40

urstruly

Wah girayaan wichon te toon don ein. You could do all what a don did in the film but you perhaps cut off the scene about the dancing girls. Be frank, how you managed that? Who was in the line of your fire?

another ramadan story: how sam walton became the patriach of the richest family in the world

Growing up during the Great Depression, Walton had numerous chores to help make financial ends meet for his family. He milked the family cow, bottled the surplus and drove it to customers. Afterwards, he would deliver newspapers on a paper route.

Upon graduating, Walton decided to attend college, hoping to find a better way to help support his family. He attended the University of Missouri - Columbia and majored in economics and was an ROTC officer. During this time, he worked various odd jobs, including waiting tables in exchange for meals.

........ takbeer !

yet another ramadan story :

Henry Ford was born July 30, 1863 in Wayne county, Michigan. He was the son of Irish immigrants, William and Mary Ford, who had settled on a farm in Dearborn. In addition to helping his father with the harvest, Ford also attended school in a one-room schoolhouse. However, Ford disliked both school and farm life, and at age 16, he walked to Detroit in search of employment.

Ford was employed as an apprentice in a machine shop, where he learned about the internal combustion engine. After several years of learning his trade, Ford returned to the family farm and worked part-time for the Westinghouse Engine Company. Ford set up a small machine shop on the farm and began tinkering with engines and machines. During this time, Ford fell in love with Clara Bryant, who he married in 1888.

............. takbeer

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Ref babyboom #58

[It is write-ups like this in the western press which are music to fundamentalists of every religion.....

Allah indeed works in mysterious ways.

and the mirzaoons alongwith all other Oons Oons are permitted their devil dance till their last hurrah!


The (Literal) Death of Secularism


From :USA Today.com

What`s the difference between Seattle and Salt Lake City? There are many differences, of course, but here`s one you might not know. In Seattle, there are nearly 45% more dogs than children. In Salt Lake City, there are nearly 19% more kids than dogs.This curious fact might at first seem trivial, but it reflects a much broader and little-noticed demographic trend that has deep implications for the future of global culture and politics. It`s not that people in a progressive city such as Seattle are so much fonder of dogs than are people in a conservative city such as Salt Lake City. It`s that progressives are so much less likely to have children.]

There is actually a different explanation why Salt Lake City parents have more children.

Salt Lake City is in Utah where Mormons live. You know, the people who make Muslims look good by marrying multiple wives. While Prophet Mohammad (May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his armpits) had only 20 wives and ordered Muslims to limit themselves to 4 wives, the Mormons have no limits. Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon church, managed to convince at least the wife of one Apostle of the Church to marry him in secret. Brigham Young, who founded Salt Lake City, had a harem of 72 wives.

When you have three wives, it is necessary that you give each wife at least one child and preferably an equal number of children to each. That would explain why Salt Lake City has more kids than dogs.

Anyway, you might want to consider the freedom that the Mormon Church offers in terms of multiple wives and convert ; you cold then thumb your nose (or your dick) at those pious Muslims who, heeding Allah`s injunctions, limit themselves to four.

hamidm writes <<< Henry Ford was born July 30, 1863 in Wayne county, Michigan.....another ramadan story: how sam walton became the patriach of the richest family in the world >>>

It is quite pathetic how some idiots will go back to 1863 to explain today`s economic opportunities, when the shape and consolidation of the economy today is quite different. A name here a name there when the poor in this country not only are not getting enough to eat, going to schools that are more like prisons from whose graduates cannot manage to read a paragraph (much like many posters here), are dying at three times the rate, and this idiot wants us to believe that if they just work hard they can compete with the children of the wealth that go to the best schools have the best health care and later the best social networks to make them suceed. These horatio alger type tales are just tales and not much else, not only is much about the very rich hidden and obfuscated except for the romantic notion of the different jobs they worked, inter-class mobility is intergenerationally permanent in this society, that is not for one or two but for entire populations.

masadi.... i am still waiting in line.................

have you started going to a therapist ????

Few things in America, we normally like to enjoy in the Ramadan is the Dawn Parata, Rooafza, Pakola,Tulsi Panmasala and the 0.79 cents Mighty SHAN Malasa Oh man sometime I picture without Shan Masala how could we survived in this Fast Food Nation. I just remembered opening Roza in Export classes with water and Hershey`s. Really Miss Ramadan and it`s shopping in Karachi, Do they still have Dool walla shouting ``Jaag tay Rahooo`` ? ... Any way nice article :-)
Ahad

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Re: # 60

another ramadan story (and they will keep on coming until masadi accepts the fact that instead of living off government cheese, he too can make it )

Mark Cuban was born in 1958 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to working class immigrants. He has described himself as a goofy-looking kid with funny teeth and large glasses who dreamed of becoming a pro basketball or baseball player. When he was 12, he started his first business selling garbage bags door-to-door. During his teenage years, he sold powdered milk, and even imported newspapers from Cleveland during a newspaper strike in Pittsburgh.

After graduating from Indiana University in 1981, Cuban moved to Dallas. Without any formal computer training whatsoever, he started MicroSolutions, a computer consulting business. In 1990 he sold the company to CompuServe and became a multi-millionaire.

In 1994, Cuban and friend Todd Wagner wanted to listen to Indiana Hoosiers basketball game broadcasts, but were unable to since they were hundreds of miles away in Dallas. After realizing that it could be accomplished over the Internet and that it might also be a great business venture, they invested $3,000 and went to work building AudioNet. The service enabled people to listen to radio broadcasts from across the country through the internet. In the late 1990s, the service grew in popularity and was renamed Broadcast.com. In 1999, Yahoo.com acquired Broadcast.com for $6 billion worth of stock and Cuban became a billionaire.

In 2000, Cuban bought the Dallas Mavericks franchise, considered at the time as one of the worst teams in the NBA.


takbeer !


next we will tell you stories of kids who were born in the 70`s and 80`s who have made it simply by working hard and refusing to blame `the man` ............ boy`s and girls, don`t listen to masadi, listen to me, if you want to live the american dream instead of living in a basement and eating government cheese