The General and Kargil

okay here is the final deal

(a) Pak ocupied hill tops
(b) 5 platoons of regular army used + few irregulars
(c) India used 5 divisions
(e) nukes deployed
(f) naval blockades threatened
(g) uncle sam wees in pants at thought of nukes going off
(h) uncle sam summons his chela Nawaz for a pow-pow on 4th July
(i) nawaz suprised (or not) - sweats (or not)
(j) nawaz agrees for withdrawal
(k)India kills a few more on hill tops now - no more rations for the paks on tops
(m) death all round - kill ratios? use imagination here
(n) NYC, WP, Times etal carry centre page ads on Pak terrorist State and failed state
(o) image sticks all round
(p) agra happens
(r)Chickens are eaten in agra
(s) parliament attacks takes palces
(t) India on war footing
(u)pak sweatsfor a few months
(v) peace talks
(w) billions invested in kashmir

So what exactly has been happening here? Any clues? Anyone?

Deals done people! Live with it. Currently people are going through the motions a choreographed dance. Its management of deal for eventual reavelation.

Re: # 89
[...that is being gobbled down by the common American as the gospel truth...]

yep, I heard the americans are planning to profer sainthood on mushy...:)... His book may even replace the New Testament...

Pakis are and their unending delusions.... :)

Re: # 88 HP, the self-loathing paki

I read your post...you have no clues about nothing - you just act high and mighty...:)...

#97 by macaca_dick

What I infer from it, Mr. macaca_dick, is the obvious fact that Nawaz did not run to Clinton asking for help. It was the other way around. Clinton wanted to stop the war at any cost because he knew Pak had deployed its tactical nukes in the event of a naval blockade of Karachi by macaca navy, which was the next military step by macacaland though it is not mentioned by Bruce Riedel.

Re: # 95

Okay, so what? Nawaz had to ask the army to withdraw - okay the US asked Nawaz who asked the army to withdraw.

What do you infer from it?

#40 by Urstruly

It wasn`t a theory. This account has been provided in Bruce Reidel`s details of the Clinton/Nawaz meeting at Blair House on July 4, 1999. Some excerpts:

...On the third, more information developed about the escalating military situation in the area —disturbing evidence that the Pakistanis were preparing their nuclear arsenals for possible deployment.

...There was more disturbing information about Pakistan preparing its nuclear arsenal for possible use. I recommended that he use this only when Sharif was without hisaides, particularly not when the Foreign Secretary, Shamshad Ahmad, who was known to be very close to Pakistani military intelligence (ISI) was in earshot.

... Clinton asked ... Did Sharif order the Pakistani nuclear missile forceto prepare for action? Did he realize how crazy that was? You’ve put me in themiddle today, set the U.S. up to fail and I won’t let it happen. Pakistan is messing with nuclear war.

Re: # 83
What u say is correct. In fact this was stated as soon as the book was published here on chowk, on FP and UP. There was thread on this, if I have the time before sleep I will dig it up.

Mushy prefers over the counter legit money, not under the counter after all the PR and publicity he gained from his accountability business.

Hahaha ... look at the macacas jumping up and down and tripping on their tails ....

First: #34 by jang_dumbass_macaca says: ...had a shameful visit to beg to clinton etc.

Then :#43 by arjun2_ugly_macaca says: Zinni`s book throws light on Kargil withdrawal .... Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his civilian colleagues appeared reluctant to endorse a withdrawal. That got Musharraf`s attention, and he encouraged Prime Minister Sharif to hear me out,`` writes Gen. Zinni.

Hahaha ... can the macacas decide one way or the other? LFMAO!

Musharaff is a household name - Yes , as one of the top dictators of our times!!!
That is certainly something every Pakistani who loves lollywood nationalism must take pride in.

All these Jernails died and left behind moth eaten civilian institutions packed with pompus and megalomaniacs Hate Pot Islamists claiming to be the pride of Pakistan ............ what an irony!!

Re: # 90
Do not feel bad about.
I found something so good. Actually my daughter send me casset. There is heavenly Bandish in Raga Basant. All those who like Kirana Gayaki know Late Abdul Karim Khan`s khayal (basant) ``Fugwa Brij Dekaneko`` but he is heavenly in another Bandish in Rag Basant surpasses heavely pleasure for ears and brain. ``Ab maine Man Dekhe``.It is hardly 4 minutes but lifts and you go in paradise of notes.I have listened lot but its heavely. Also Khansahib in Khayal other Ragas (Bilawal,Shudh pilu.Malkauns),
There is khan sahibs gold standard in Shudh Kalyan-Monder Baje, Gara- Jadu Bhari kaun albeli nar. My question is many of his bandishes later sang by Pt joshi and he makes even better as more time and physical stamina, did Pt Joshi sang bandish in Rang Basant following steps of Abdul Karim Khan. ? namely - ``Ab maine man Dekhe``. It just went in my mind what will great heavenly music if Pt joshi sang following Khan sahibs path. Just thought.
I wish every body happyness hope people can depart without malice but joy in hearts.

Re: # 74

Dear BJK. You tell me which this 3rd part will read. Are you talking about ``Romair`` bhai`s little story of deaf or blind woman ? I liked your two parts. I think your parallel story did not run or got not printed. I liked both two very much , I think I commented about Bheempals also with B.Khan. Then your 3rd part never appeared or I was not well . Recently I had bout of depression and and always afraid of winter and misery. Winter brings misery to all depressed people. I am not well really but as I am out of bout. As usual I am taking tution in Maths and I feel good about as entertainment and pocket money.
(Fortunately I do not need money, being frugal and conservative investestoe at KSE). You send me and will comment. (I get lots of lucrative offers in my email from Nigeeria to send 10,000 Rs to get 1000,000 from big Oil officials but have decided to pass. Some american Univs has offered me Doctorate sitting and working at home. for few thousand Rupees. Wonder all readers get or I am lucky man)
My email is ahmedmadani2048@yahoo.com, send me. Also how one can retrive ? I do not want to break your heart.

HP,

I love the way years of Indian efforts and propaganda have evaporated into thin air- given that Musharraf not Manmohan is the household name and it is ``straight talking`` book (regardless of how dubious the facts maybe) that is being gobbled down by the common American as the gospel truth. No wonder we are hearing desperate high pitch cries .... not to mention that it is India that has made Musharraf rich by buying close to a 100 000 copies of his book...

#85 by macaca11

This macaca`s dhoti is on fire..hahahah....

Macaca, You perhaps did not read my post carefully. These things are beyond your macaca brain...

Mushy, like all other paki general tinpots before him is a pompous freak... but unlike other tinpots - he considers himself an intellectual... other tinpots may have wrapped themselves with islam - but mushy boy wants to different - he wants to be known as ``enlightened`` - so he wrote a book...

But true to his incompetency - he can`t even ghost-write a book properly... forget the truth and reality - pakis can`t even get the spelling right...

Fittingly - George Bush promoted the book - who else?... :)

And what happened to Salim amd Urstruly anyway?... How come these are two have stooped down to lick the mushy`s b@!!s?