Hijacking of Islam

......why do stray dogs (awara kuttey) chase and bark at passing vehicles?

......anyone throwing light on it is welcome.

Ref zeemax #126

[The way in which these opinions have changed is that zeemax has realized that while generally the northern half of india i.e. Punjab/UP regions intelligentsia as well as the middle classes acknowledge Pakistan as a possible fraternizing neighbor, the southern half i.e. maharashtra downwards middle-classes/intelligentsia generally do not. I don`t want to paint anyone with a wide brush but this has essentially been true with few exceptions.

I wouldn`t like to venture upon reasons ... cultural? Perhaps. Proximity to Pak and relations with cross-border migrant populations? Perhaps. But anyone throwing light on it is welcome.]

We not in the UP/Punjab region are sick and tired of you frikking bomb-throwers setting off bombs in our trains, cities and buses and killing our people. We do have an objection to dying a violent death just because some frikking idiot decides that it is time to blow off a bus.

Pakistan is not a fraternizing neighbor; it is a terrorist state. On top of that, it is a terrorist state that peddleed nuclear equipment to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

#133 by tahmed32

No need to copy/paste. Take 100% of all Lebanon boards/Palestine boards ......

#132 fine. now cut and paste anything i have ever written, or anything anyone of the other muslims you include in the list have ever written, to indicate how they fit into any of these items.

#128 by tahmed32

zeemax: how do you define a muslim-hater?

A Muslim-hater is anyone who:

-opposes unity of Muslims (Ummah);

-opposes Muslim militancy against oppresion;

-opposes distinctively Muslim behavioural norms & culture in non-Muslim countries;

-ascribes inferiority to Muslim nations and ascribes superiority to anglo-saxons etc;

-last but not-least, ridicules matters of individual Muslim faith of any particular school.

Hope above is a comprehensive definition.

Re: # 119

``Basically as sattar says, masadi seems to form his belief system around the Koran but interprets it in a positive, constructive manner rather than the typical ``kill the infidel`` mindset. ``


Surely, those who do not accept his interpretation face the choicest abuses. How do you know he would not be willing to bomb you out of existence if you do not accept his ``rational reality``?

Re: # 119

``In fact, he argues against those passages being interpreted literally. ``

Does he say that??

Please try and explain Asadi`s position on the issue of clash between the modern precepts of civil laws regarding domestic violence, status of women, secularism , modern parliamentry deomocracies, and the so called metaphysic of ``rational-reality`` which every one is required to accept as the only truth!!!

krishna: the first cartoon is about the pope - and it indicates that the pope did not know what he was talking about when he referred to islam.

the second cartoon is about those who commit violence in the name of islam - it says nothing about the message of islam itself.

those cartoons indicate everything one needs to know about you and your low-watt brain. ha! ha!

zeemax: how do you define a muslim-hater?

I thought that this says everything one needs to say about islam:

#120 by dost-mittar

Zeemax has changed somewhat over time at chowk but he alone cannot be blamed for it...

Well .. the above statement is probably true, but I`ld like to replace that ` has changed` with `changed opinions`. Meaning, zeemax as a person has not changed but his optimism re India/Pak relations has certainly changed due to increased interaction with a variety of indians not only on Chowk, but rather Chowk has served to confirm the disturbing opinions formed through real life interactions.

The way in which these opinions have changed is that zeemax has realized that while generally the northern half of india i.e. Punjab/UP regions intelligentsia as well as the middle classes acknowledge Pakistan as a possible fraternizing neighbor, the southern half i.e. maharashtra downwards middle-classes/intelligentsia generally do not. I don`t want to paint anyone with a wide brush but this has essentially been true with few exceptions.

I wouldn`t like to venture upon reasons ... cultural? Perhaps. Proximity to Pak and relations with cross-border migrant populations? Perhaps. But anyone throwing light on it is welcome.

It may be a complete coincidence, for all I know, but all the Muslim-hating macaca/bhaand-behaviour-likes here have the number `2` suffixed to their nicks i.e.:

sattar2
hamidm2
tahmed(3)2
zarrar2
arjun2

Is it a coincidence? Or is it a sign they`ve painted on their foreheads proudly announcing they`re all `do number` (urdu) people ... i.e. fakes and frauds!

Interesting thesis #118 by sattar2:

First he imperiously states:``....zeemax ... seemingly advocate violence to settle theological differences``.

Then gives an example of the above:``...or that if Israelis bomb Muslim woman/children, it is alright to bomb Israeli women/children (zeemax)``.

Thereby concluding that: ``... if these such people can be considered “good human beings”, then arguably Hitler was not bad either … he was just trying to clean up the gene pool ...

So, what he means is (1) Bombing Israeli civilians in retaliation for bombing Muslim civilians is due to theological differences; and (2) Hitler`s civilians were being bombed by european jews thereby he tried holocaust to clean up the gene pool (due to theological differences)... and zemax is advocating the same ....

Wow. Read the above in wonderous amazement as to how illogical the Muslim haters can become, and readily discard all traces of reason!

What has israel/Lebanon/holocaust/zeemax got to do with theological differences?

Re: # 120

charles manson and jeffrey dahmer were also compassionate men whose compassion was circumscribed by their faith .........

#118 by sattar2 on October 11, 2006 4:20pm PT

masadi is likely to make your head explode through his inanities(and repeated quotations from his own website)...

with mullah urstruly and zeemax, there`s a chance they might blow up a bunch of people on a subway somewhere...

Ref ranjit #119

[Basically as sattar says, masadi seems to form his belief system around the Koran but interprets it in a positive, constructive manner rather than the typical ``kill the infidel`` mindset. I think that is quite novel and distinct from the typical fundo approach.]

Well, ask him his stand on apostates from Islam: should they be allowed to roam about freely or killed?

That would give YOU a clue about masadi.