Pervez Musharraf Vs. George Orwell

Aisha,

Don`t you have other things to do, like make babies?

seriously pakis...what part of no change in status quo isn`t clear to you, huh?

Zero tolerance for terrorism’: LoC is there to stay, says Singh

* India, EU agree to improve intelligence flows
* Solana stresses all nations, not just Pakistan, need to increase anti-terror efforts

HELSINKI: India is ready to discuss privately “all issues” with Pakistan, including Jammu and Kashmir, but will never enter into talks on altering the disputed state’s borders, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh has said in an interview with a Finnish magazine.

Talking to Kuvalehti magazine, Dr Singh touched on President General Pervez Musharraf’s proposal that the Kashmir issue be resolved through a special autonomy mechanism, by saying: “I would not like to discuss this issue in public with Musharraf. We are prepared to discuss all issues pertaining to relations between India and Pakistan, including the Jammu and Kashmir issue.

“I have said on many occasions that we cannot discuss moving borders. We have to create a situation in which it is irrelevant on which side of the border the inhabitants of the area live, because goods as well as people can move freely. That is the job of the two governments, and it is the only alternative.”

The prime minister also said in the interview, which had been conducted in New Delhi prior to his trips to Britain and Finland, that he was satisfied with his meeting with Gen Musharraf in Havana. “We agreed on common procedures to uproot terrorism. I hope Pakistan will seriously work with us on this issue. “The current constructive dialogue is based on Musharraf’s commitment made in January 2004.”

Indo-EU summit: Meanwhile, India and the European Union on Friday pledged to boost anti-terrorism cooperation, with particular focus on improving intelligence flows, with the Indian prime minister stressing that only “zero tolerance” for terrorism would send the right signal to those countries engaged in promoting terrorism.

Addressing the opening meeting of the seventh Indo-EU summit in the Finnish capital of Helsinki, Dr Singh said that strengthening international anti-terrorism cooperation was of “vital importance to all free and democratic societies”.

“An international norm of zero tolerance against terrorism will send the right signal to those countries directly engaged in terrorism or which are allowing their territories to be used for terrorist purposes. “The recent bombings in Mumbai as well as the earlier bombings in London, Madrid and Srinagar remind us that terrorism remains the most serious threat.” Talking to reporters on the sidelines of the summit, Dr Singh and EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said that India and the 25-nation bloc had agreed to exchange information and intelligence to boost counter-terrorism efforts. Dr Singh said that this would add to wider international cooperation. On Pakistan’s efforts to combat terrorism, Solana stressed that all countries, not just Pakistan, needed to work harder. Besides India, the five other countries that enjoy a strategic partnership with the EU are the United Sates, Canada, Russia, China and Japan. agencies

#48 -

In order to do what you were requested to consider, you do need to get the book. You do not have to buy it if it`s a toll on your emotional well being. You can ask your neighbors to send you a copy. I am positive that they would send you a few extra. They can be very gracious, if you show your civil mannerisms.

[(3) Even more difficult than (2), because of my pre-existing highly negative perception of that Kargil killer (which is in the same league as but perhaps on a smaller scale than the sour-puss-face vamp Jinnah whose TB-infested face would forever remain soaked with the blood of the Partition’s victims!) – it will be close to impossible for me to conduct a fair review of his book! ]

Well, well, well........the remark was completely out of line. Jinnah is not the only one to shoulder the burden of partition. Is that still the root of tension between indian and pakistani interactors? Why cannot we move on?

Hamid

I see the monkey is jumping up and down, from tree to tree, trying to abduct her to Sri Lanka!

LOL!

#46 ZahraJ

Dear ZahraJ,

I am posting my take on Aisha’s write-up here. But if you are asking me to post my view on the Mushy book, there are a few practical problems:

(1) To review the book, I will have to BUY it – and I have no interest in blowing my money away like the Pakistani crowds here (How do I know these people blow their money away? For documented proof, read #45.)

(2) Even more difficult than (1), I will have to sit down and read the words purported to come from that inveterate liar and Pakistan’s self-styled mai-baap called Mushy – and I do not have the patience to accomplish that spectacular feat!

(3) Even more difficult than (2), because of my pre-existing highly negative perception of that Kargil killer (which is in the same league as but perhaps on a smaller scale than the sour-puss-face vamp Jinnah whose TB-infested face would forever remain soaked with the blood of the Partition’s victims!) – it will be close to impossible for me to conduct a fair review of his book!

Therefore, ZahraJ, I hope you understand!

Sincerely,
BJ Kumar

#45

[...already sent check...]

Post an image of the CANCELLED check here.

Otherwise everyone will think your are a liar.

Now what was that about ``pants on fire``?

Re: # 44

BJ - Hi. You are funny. Why don`t you post your take? I am sure the readers will love to entertain different povs.

Re: # 44

bj,

.... thanks for reminding me, but i already sent my check to congressman towns - maybe i will send him another ..........

........... i wonder why aisha and ylh light your tail on fire - do you also turn green ?

Dear Aisha,

Based on my review of your “review”, here are a few take home lessons for you:

(1) There is nothing wrong in writing a crappy “article” – countless people on this site do it. (I do fewer than many because I do fewer.) Just don’t attempt to pass it off as a legitimate article. Not only that fails to make it legitimate – it brings down the site’s credibility even lower!

(2) When you write a review – make it about the object of review, not about YOUR own controversial, crappy, and muddled-up ideas of highly doubtful legitimacy. In other words – you nead to actually READ the book you claim to be reviewing.

(3) Before sending in an article – read it yourself. That way you won’t look foolish with all those spelling mistakes.

(4) There is nothing wrong in enlisting the help of a hubby with a bit of housekeeping, cooking, diaper changing, and EVEN proof-reading. Enlisting such help will not severely damage the golden image of the land of the Pure!

(5) Do not count for anything more than empty rhetorical exhortations – and certainly expect absolutely no REAL help from fakers like Hamidm2. (Hint: Congressman Towns still awaits his campaign check!)

Congratulations on the new arrival and best wishes.

BJ Kumar

Hamid, 41

you and sadna are a match made in heaven - why don`t you climb down from that tree and abduct her to sri lanka

LOL!

Aisha

I have also read the book. Great review and very well done. You are an excellent writer. Thanks.

On the side note, please note that the Economist, with all its bias, grudgingly acknowledges yet, painful though it is to read, this is a quite remarkable book, about dramatic events and, as the occasional sentence lets slip, an interesting and impressive man.

Re: # 38

bj,

......... please don`t start posting pictures of naked men again - i see it coming ! .........

........ by the way, you and sadna are a match made in heaven - why don`t you climb down from that tree and abduct her to sri lanka ...........

Re: # 38

The fact that you pay so much attention trying to analyze what I say, and do a bad job of it, is very telling of how little I need to do to get you skunking of heeng.

As a great poet once said, ``all Indians are Macacas.`` All of you combined in your intricate dance of back-scraching have not come up with a single point worth debating about.

So this is the best you can do, speculate who domiates my marriage, or who`s catching up with who in scoring articles. And that I have typos.

Amazing!

-Aisha Sarwari

aisha,

......... even though i think you are being overly generous to the goon in khaki who has corrupted and undermined every single institution in pakistan, it was a great review .......... anything that brings out frau sadna and her protege, bjkumar, out from the bunker to bay at the moon is worth reading ...........


from her kennel beneath the rock
she maketh answer to the clock,
four for the quarters, and twelve for the hour ;
ever and aye, by shine and shower,
sixteen short howls, not over loud ;
some say, she sees .........................................

Out of this Sarwari_Manto duo, clearly Manto is the prime mover. He drives the discussions.

Ms. Sarwari is a (sort of) writer in her own right - in a way she perhaps is – if one could be allowed to use the term loosely (just look at her numerous typos, for example).

They both take their writings seriously – to the extent of their highly limited ability to understand things and within the scope of their extreme handicap in using common-sense reason.

However, Ms. Sarwari also has to take care of the three children (including Manto), so probably has less time available (and if my guess was right, perhaps additional duties too in other roles). Therefore, the two or three “articles” of her that I have read here have been, in my view, mostly highly crappy cut-and-paste jobs. In fact, she is on record saying that an article on Gandhi she did last year was put together in less than two hours (which perhaps speaks volumes about this site’s ability to quality-control) and by comparing with this article, her approach to writing has not improved a long way from then.

They did not compare notes on their writings - perhaps a matter of pride for Ms. Sarwari – and because no comparisons were made, they would not be on the same page, of course! A classic case of the female spouse trying to emphasize her independence – in the land of Jinnah’s golden Pure – a concept which probably guides them like a light and a light which perhaps lights up their nights very bright – made all the more important to their sagging morale because that khaki darkness surrounds the rest of their compatriots – especially of the fair sex variety!

And when criticized, of course there are plenty of two-bit stooges who would make insulting personal attacks on Ms. Sadna – as if that changes anything about their own crappy writing – not to mention the underlying crappy “Muslims are exclusive” thought process!

These are the “fathers” of the future Jerrys of Pakistan – and it has been said!

“The child is father of the man!”

Extremely well written.Pls write more regularly.