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Pervez Musharraf Vs. George Orwell

Aisha Sarwari October 12, 2006

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#86 Posted by hamidm2 on October 15, 2006 6:35:06 am
Re: # 83

arjun,

...... you don`t have to wait until 2011 to convert - according to the bbc you can do it now :

Low-caste Hindus adopt new faith

Thousands attended the conversion ceremonies in Nagpur
Thousands of people have been attending mass ceremonies in India at which hundreds of low-caste Hindus (Dalits) converted to Buddhism and Christianity.
The events in the central city of Nagpur are part of a protest against the injustices of India`s caste system


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#82 Posted by sadna on October 15, 2006 2:53:53 am
#81
Since other posters are free to post personal remarks about me, I will reply to such remarks as and when I please. If ``everyone`` has a problem with that, so be it.
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#81 Posted by burpinder on October 15, 2006 1:54:25 am
sadna/mantolives

Will you two please shut up? Your incessant bickering and he said-she said is driving everyone up the wall.
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#80 Posted by zeemax on October 15, 2006 12:58:30 am

“You want to hang him? Go ahead and hang him ... this nation will go up in flames``

(Farooq Abdullah told the CNN-IBN news channel.)

Hahaha ... Kashmir Banega Pakistan ... do it quickly please.
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#79 Posted by MantoLives on October 14, 2006 10:31:33 pm
Sadna...

You say you are not interested in posting anything about Musharraf`s book, but you`ve been posting thread after thread about him for the past three weeks. Isn`t that ironic?

In any event, we still don`t understand why Aisha and I have to agree with each other on everything. In any event, it is clear that you didn`t even bother to read the article or your comprehension of simple English is rather lacking, which makes Aisha`s description of you in 29 all the more accurate.

The root of all evils in any debate is 1. misdirection or deliberate misinterpretation of what another person says and 2. personalizing dissent. You are not setting a very good example for the lesser maccacas in both respects.
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#78 Posted by arjun2 on October 14, 2006 9:15:15 pm
manto and mrs manto can continue this circle-jerk of self-delusion all they want bu the facts don`t change.

The world associates India with IT and an ancient culture.
The world associated Pakistan with Islamic terrorism..

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#77 Posted by echoboom on October 14, 2006 8:25:44 pm
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#76 Posted by arjun2 on October 14, 2006 8:02:27 pm
#75 by ballukhan on October 14, 2006 6:25pm PT

For pakis, normal relations means India hands over Kashmir to them and in return, they promise to be India`s friends...

thanks....but no thanks...
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#74 Posted by sadna on October 14, 2006 4:10:47 pm
hamidm2 #various
I haven`t expressed any opinion on the book or Musharraf on this thread and have no interest in doing so. I posted what the author`s husband said connecting the book and its author to myself and I told her to have a word with him. When people write stuff about me, I have the right of reply because in case you didn`t notice, the Mughal sultanate is dead.

The root of all evils in any debate is 1. misdirection or deliberate misinterpretation of what another person says and 2. personalizing dissent. You are not setting a very good example to your juniors in both respects.
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#72 Posted by KaalChakra on October 14, 2006 9:05:19 am
LOL

nasah ji, hamidm2 is so fine a contributor that he is entitled to spicing up the conversation. Even by his catchphrase ``horrible Hindoos`` he means no harm. :)
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#70 Posted by nasah on October 14, 2006 8:35:41 am
``my biggest beef with musharraf - .....................- is his misguided effort to `normalize` relations with primates ..........``(hamidm)

what happened -- when this epiphany arrived....for the member of the same gene pool?
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#71 Posted by hamidm2 on October 14, 2006 9:04:50 am
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nasah,

macacas, langurs and capuchins might belong to the same gene pool, but in the wild you will never see them peacefully swinging from the same tree and sharing berries - it is the law of nature ......... the deep-rooted animosity of the macacas towards the langurs because of their inability to accept the fact that the langurs want their own berry tree, makes peaceful coexistence impossible in the forseeable future ....... and being the direct descendents of hanuman, the macacas have more experience with monkey business, which puts the langurs at a disadvantage ...........

..... maybe if the langurs stopped acting like capuchins dancing to the tune of various organ grinders, they might have a chance ............
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#69 Posted by hamidm2 on October 14, 2006 6:50:38 am

please do not feed the monkeys

....... my biggest beef with musharraf - other than the fact that there is everything wrong with a man in unifrom running the country - is his misguided effort to `normalize` relations with primates ..........

.......... remember when the indian cricket team accompanied by frau sadna`s male alter ego, vereesh mian, went to defile the land of the pure ?......... at that time i had said that nothing good would come out of letting in these ... these .... monkeys into the country (at that time the world had not discovered george allen) ........ monkeys are a nuisance - they are mean spirited, cunning and wicked, they crap all over the place, they eat some of their feces and hurl the remainder at passersby, they screech (specially the females) and are infested with fleas ..........

........ we created pakistan so that we could get away from the knife-in-armpit bania because we knew that we couldn`t trust him .......... then what was musharraf thinking ? ........... you throw a monkey a peanut and more than likely he will attack you, try to grab the whole bag and then gouge out your eyes ! ......... it is the nature of the beast ....... and if you don`t believe me, then just look at the picture of the man posted by bj - would you trust your niece with him ?


ylh zindabad !
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#75 Posted by ballukhan on October 14, 2006 6:25:50 pm
Re: # 69

``is his misguided effort to `normalize` relations .``

Agreed.......................he tried to `normalize` the relationship of ``Pakistan-in-a-state-of-unending-war-with-India`` by pumping more resources into Jehadi infrastructure first with Kargil and then executing more terror attacks into Indian mainland.............. it is his perverse view of what `normal` relations with India means that gets exposed in his book...............
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#85 Posted by hamidm2 on October 15, 2006 6:31:54 am
Re: # 75

ballukhan,

......... i agree that executing terror attacks on the indian `mainland` is counter productive and as both the us and pakistan have found out, supporting jihadists is a bad idea - the blowback effect is unpredictable ............ but it is pakistan`s moral obligation to support the kashmiris in their struggle for freedom and musharraf`s backtracking on the issue is despicable ........... the man is famous for making decisions arbitrarily and then making a u-turn when things blow up in his face ......... it will be interesting to see how he handles bb and ns when they decide to call his bluff .......
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#67 Posted by MantoLives on October 14, 2006 5:41:20 am
Bj, bj, bj,

You fluff up every Indian from Gandhi to Sadna and yet they disappoint you again and again. You fluff, fluff, fluff all day and to no avail.

FYI I never said I wasn`t talking to you. This is not unplugged pai... all I said I was ignoring your abuse and personal attacks on unplugged ... which is why you are on my ignore list there. It doesn`t mean that I don`t have the right to take your sorry little behind to china town... Also the name Muhammad is spelt many ways. Mahomet, Mehmet, Mahomed (this is how Jinnah actually spelt his name) and Mohammed are all the same... a rose is a rose by any name.
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