Pervez Musharraf Vs. George Orwell

Look Sadna.. I admit it. I posted it. I stand by it. I disagree with Aisha on Musharraf`s book... Please tell me what the crime in all of this is? Can`t a husband and a wife disagree on a dictator`s book?

Not every family has the same equation as you Guptas man..

#16
Typical misdirection - noone was questioning your wife`s freedom to disagree with you. The issue is your thread about me and Musharraf`s book. If Ms Sarwari`s husband is a weird person who was abusing a woman on the web for Musharraf`s book, that is her misfortune.

I recommend a rabies vaccine not for disagreeing with her but for your thread about me and Musharraf`s book. But as someone said, it is too late.

Dear Sadna...

There is no misdirection.

I stand by my comments on that thread.

Let me quote the ``abuse``...

is that I want to ask Sadna if she has ghost-written the book for the General... the similarity of the writing style is unmistakable. Even the typos are the same...

It displays the same control freakery, dishonest crookery, twisting of facts and materials, narrowminded focus and same lay man approach to government, constitution, politics that is the hallmark of Sadna.... Albeit ... unlike Sadna whose efforts are aimed at changing now accepted facts of history which have become all the more obvious in recent years... Musharraf`s effort seems to prop himself up in the mould of the greatest reformist dictator ....

A match made in heaven indeed.


There is no abuse... simply an apt description of General sahab`s book and your writing style.

#18
In contrast, your wife writes about Musharraf`s writing style:

`` I noticed that Pervez Musharraf steers clear from George Orwell’s most cautioned malaise – Lack of Clarity.

Musharraf has seemed to remedy with his clear, crisp and honest language the very nature of political language which Orwell says is “designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable.”

Musharraf labels rot as rot, and if his story is to be believed he never would be a dictator, nor does he support the interference of the military into politics, as he explains at length, for the right reasons too.``
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``Any learned American inspired by the Jeffersonian ethic will like this book, so will a solider, a republican or a democrat with a commitment to minority rights. Refreshingly though, the book isn’t written for the American, as much as it resonates with the nationalist Pakistani with the Jinnahist ethic – the secular democratic Pakistan that is successfully liberal because of its culturally Islamic background rather than despite it.``


That is why I said you and your wife need to talk, but feel free not to.

No other man except you or another fellow rabid Paki would attack an unknown woman from another country for the book written by a military dictator of your own country. Aisha Sarwari has my sympathies.

Sadna,

I am afraid I am still baffled as to why you think I have to agree with Aisha? Why can`t I disagree with her?

I am now sure that for your own good, you seriously need to deal with those issues that you have with your brother Mr. Arun Gupta! As for you being unknown... I met you and your brother... and my observations draw on that meeting as well.

Do you want me to enumerate.

As for rabidity... lets say we have seen abuse on this website much worse than my contention that your writing style matches that of Pakistan`s dictator.

#20

Many generations will have to pass before I find an Indian who abused a Paki woman interactor for a book written by an Indian leader. And while his wife published an article on this site praising the same book. You are unique even among the community of rabies afflicted Pakis here.

Indians assume too much.

a) My religion is public knowledge
b) I have endorsed the general
c) I like his book (Only for giving Indians a bloody nose)
d) I am Ms. Hamdani (because a woman`s identity in Hinduism is a shadow of the men she lives with)
e) I have indulged in the great Indian sin of disagreeing with my `Patti Parmeshwar` and I am defeated because it’s caught on tape or something
f) I get scared off by the pack mentality of foaming Indians barking at me to administer rabies vaccine to my husband, as if I am his Tulsi
g) Orwell writes only FICTION (LOL, is that what they teach in India)
Re: http://mla.stanford.edu/Politics_&_English_language.pdf


Mantolives, why compare Musharraf`s writing style to an Indian who is a failure at her personal life as well as her dhud attempt to be an Internet Ghauri - Rather, I suggest you ask the Indians with frostymouths to find out if there is anything in common between Musharraf and Indian leaders they hold so dear - Does Musharraf make underhanded deals, indulge in pedophilic activities or sleep around with his contemporaries` wives like Nehru and Gandhi did? That would be a more academic question.

And I disagree, Sadna doen`t write like Musharraf. She writes like she put together a Santscrit to English dictionary with a manual on How To Make Lies Sound Truthful and Murder Respectable, threw both into a sophisticated online software converter and clicked on the SHUFFEL icon.

Till this day I have never been able to get what she writes except the underlying envy, suspicion and aggression. RAW must have hired her from her earlier position of the personal typist of the infamous German leader back in the Nazi days, cloned her, put in a chip of a software engineer in Kerala, firewired it to her hands and programmed her to fight the enemy. Now she has something to do and live for.

-Aisha Sarwari

Dear Sadna,

Here is the problem... you haven`t produced a single word of abuse in the thread you`ve quoted.

is that I want to ask Sadna if she has ghost-written the book for the General... the similarity of the writing style is unmistakable. Even the typos are the same...

It displays the same control freakery, dishonest crookery, twisting of facts and materials, narrowminded focus and same lay man approach to government, constitution, politics that is the hallmark of Sadna.... Albeit ... unlike Sadna whose efforts are aimed at changing now accepted facts of history which have become all the more obvious in recent years... Musharraf`s effort seems to prop himself up in the mould of the greatest reformist dictator ....

A match made in heaven indeed.

Could you show me the abuse...

Meanwhile for all your tall claims about the scum of the earth known as the Indian male... we all know how easily the rickety legged male of your species resorts to abuses most vile simply because a woman dares disagree with her... BJkumar, Alephnull, MacGupta, Gujjubania, chaltahai, mohar11, friend and countless others are just a few specimens of this species.

In comparison calling your writing style similar to that of General Musharraf is hardly abuse!

that ``her`` should be ``him`` in third line of the second last paragraph.

#22
Given the criticality of the subject matter of Musharraf`s book(your nation`s sole and absolute leader, the direction he is irrevocably taking your nation, its institutions, its primary foreign relations, its center-provincial affairs, its civilian-military prerogative ), it is revealing that your focus was putting down an Indian poster who cannot change a single thing in your nation.

But you are blind and cannot be made to see and your self-centered stupidity cannot be changed, tho lage raho.

Dear Sadna,

First of all ...Musharraf is not critical. He is an oligarch. Don`t worry about us. Why don`t you just admit you are jealous that this absolute ruler with no focus has - using your own tactics- undone the insidious propaganda unleashed by people like you spanning decades?

Secondly I stand by my comment that your writing style is frighteningly similar to our generale el presidente.... its not a put down. You may take it as a compliment. BTW you still haven`t answer #20 or produced the abuse you promised us.

#25
``Don`t worry about us.``
First you mention me in connection with Musharraf`s book then you complain that I bring it up.

I have no interest in Musharraf`s book nor in discussing myself or my resemblance to Musharraf with you as you are demanding. I have no interest in interacting with you on any subject, period. But feel free to continue discussing me on your own instead of discussing the book with fellow Pakistanis like your wife, who has written views diametrially opposite to yours.

#25
``Don`t worry about us.``
First you mention me in connection with Musharraf`s book then you complain that I bring it up.

I have no interest in Musharraf`s book nor in discussing myself or my resemblance to Musharraf with you as you are demanding. I have no interest in interacting with you on any subject, period. But feel free to continue discussing me on your own instead of discussing the book with fellow Pakistanis like your wife, who has written views diametrically opposite to yours.

Dear Sadna,

Lets go over this again ...I did not demand anything of you. I had commented more than two weeks ago that I found your writing style similar to the general.

Now here you had a problem with the fact that Aisha`s views and mine are at variance with each other. I explained to you simply and calmly that Aisha and I have indeed somewhat different perceptions of the book. She and I have discussed it at length and even from the article it is clear that Aisha`s views do not constitute a blanket approval of Musharraf... had you read the article you would know that she actually criticises him for damaging parliamentary sovereignty and is criticising his inaction in many matters.

Yet you are unable to accept that a husband and a wife can disagree on a subject... given that you probably haven`t been allowed similar freedoms in your household. Now you are - as usual flying off into tangents- unable to stick with the topic.

#29
First they drag me into this subject then like a tag team they abuse me some more for not shutting up about it. OK so they need two rabies vaccines not one.

Oh poor sadna bibi,

Pray tell how Aisha ``dragged`` you onto the subject ? You voluntarily posted (and used my thread from two-three weeks ago as cover) on this board... Honestly you needed that dose and I must say she has shown you your place.