Pervez Hoodbhoy October 12, 2006
#173 Posted by Behram1 on October 16, 2006 4:14:20 pm
Kachras from the squatter lands of mumbai are ``korio key daam.``
Useless hindoo ugly ducklings are getting annoyed because they have no bhaou in today`s world, so they squeak like pigs. But these monkey believers would jump from tree to tree to have the world believe in something which they are not.
Just shows how code coolies are rotting away on the dark side of humanity. Hai ram ji ke, what? dhoti? Even the south Indians have started hating the northern hindoos, because they are the worst of the worst lot, leftovers of the Brahmins.
But, could these ugly ducklings know any better? How sad for humanity to have these uglies who call themselves Hindoos of India?
Respectfully submitted,
#172 Posted by VRV on October 16, 2006 2:21:34 pm
Buddhonjee Effonjee can answer. I thought he`s a termite swimming in the sewage of Karachi.
Who`s massacred minorities, skunk of forsaken Persia? Abstractions are meaningless u mothered respectfullysubmitted Effonjee. Who`s a believer who`s a non-believer deosnt mean anything u dimwit skunk Effonjee of forsaken Persia.
Going by ur brain power & arguments ur degree is equal a toiletpaper in Bombay.
Jamaadars? Skunk of Persia? NASA had many Indian scientists and engineers; WB/IMF had them; McKinsey had them. All of Fortune 500 companies had them. Go to any foreign University, u find Indian professors, whereas u find Pakistani students only, u mothered respectfullysubmitted idiot and the II class citizen-cum-toilet cleaner of Kaarchi. Btw, u are good at cleaning the poo of Pakistanis since it smell good to ur mothered nostrils as if the city of lights floating is not enough.
U guys (Pak Parsees) cant produce more since u are terminally ill or u too were casrtated by Pakistanis. Since u cant produce more, the sewage in Karachi is piling up. Need Indian Parsees to cleanup the poo of ur favourite people?
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>>>Remarks by The Honorable Michael Griffin NASA Administrator Indian Space Research Organization-NASA MOU Signing Ceremony Bangalore, India May 9, 2006 Chairman Nair (G. Madhavan Nair, Chairman Indian Space Research Organization), Dr. Shankara (K.N. Shankara, Director Indian Space Research Organization Satellite Centre)
Distinguished guests, ladies, and gentlemen. Thank you very much for your warm welcome and your tremendous hospitality. Namaste. I am honored to be your guest today, as we forge an important partnership to advance the exploration of the moon. A generation ago, perhaps many of India’s outstanding scientists and engineers were inspired to pursue their technical careers as they witnessed the first great era of lunar exploration.
It is fitting for our purposes today to note that 35 years ago this summer, during the Apollo 15 mission to Hadley Rille beneath the moon’s towering Apennine mountains, among the special items our astronauts carried with them was the national flag of India. This was not the first time that the flag of your relatively young nation had been associated with the spirit of exploration, as 53 years ago India’s national banner was hoisted on the summit of Mt. Everest, upon the conquest of Earth’s tallest peak. Today, the Indian people deserve to be tremendously proud that the next time the Indian flag travels to the moon it will be placed on a very impressive scientific spacecraft Chandrayaan-1. The mission you will conduct some 40 years after humans saw the moon up close for the first time, will greatly advance our understanding of our closest neighbor in space, and represents a very impressive technical achievement. NASA is honored to be a participant on this mission.
The two year mission of Chandrayaan-1 to map the lunar surface and investigate its surface properties will advance knowledge about the moon’s history and evolution, and inform future exploration decisions by characterizing the content of the lunar soil. I understand that beyond the purpose of expanding scientific knowledge about the moon, you are undertaking this mission to upgrade India’s technological capability and to provide challenging opportunities for planetary research for the younger generation. These are commendable goals and I applaud the Indian Space Research Organization for undertaking your first planetary mission. It is my hope, and belief, that as we extend the reach of human civilization throughout the solar system, the United States and India will be partners on many more technically challenging and scientifically rewarding projects. Building on over four decades of productive and mutually beneficial U.S.-Indian space cooperation, I see great potential for NASA and the India Space Research Organization to expand our partnership in the future as we realize the potential of space activities to benefit our peoples and to extend the horizons of commerce, science and exploration.
During my visit, I very much look forward to the opportunity to see first hand India’s impressive space facilities, to meet with your scientists and engineers, and to learn more about your remarkable work to develop and operate India’s launch vehicles, satellites and control stations. I thank you once again for the opportunity to be here, and I very much look forward to the successful launch of this bold mission.
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Who`s massacred minorities, skunk of forsaken Persia? Abstractions are meaningless u mothered respectfullysubmitted Effonjee. Who`s a believer who`s a non-believer deosnt mean anything u dimwit skunk Effonjee of forsaken Persia.
Going by ur brain power & arguments ur degree is equal a toiletpaper in Bombay.
Jamaadars? Skunk of Persia? NASA had many Indian scientists and engineers; WB/IMF had them; McKinsey had them. All of Fortune 500 companies had them. Go to any foreign University, u find Indian professors, whereas u find Pakistani students only, u mothered respectfullysubmitted idiot and the II class citizen-cum-toilet cleaner of Kaarchi. Btw, u are good at cleaning the poo of Pakistanis since it smell good to ur mothered nostrils as if the city of lights floating is not enough.
U guys (Pak Parsees) cant produce more since u are terminally ill or u too were casrtated by Pakistanis. Since u cant produce more, the sewage in Karachi is piling up. Need Indian Parsees to cleanup the poo of ur favourite people?
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>>>Remarks by The Honorable Michael Griffin NASA Administrator Indian Space Research Organization-NASA MOU Signing Ceremony Bangalore, India May 9, 2006 Chairman Nair (G. Madhavan Nair, Chairman Indian Space Research Organization), Dr. Shankara (K.N. Shankara, Director Indian Space Research Organization Satellite Centre)
Distinguished guests, ladies, and gentlemen. Thank you very much for your warm welcome and your tremendous hospitality. Namaste. I am honored to be your guest today, as we forge an important partnership to advance the exploration of the moon. A generation ago, perhaps many of India’s outstanding scientists and engineers were inspired to pursue their technical careers as they witnessed the first great era of lunar exploration.
It is fitting for our purposes today to note that 35 years ago this summer, during the Apollo 15 mission to Hadley Rille beneath the moon’s towering Apennine mountains, among the special items our astronauts carried with them was the national flag of India. This was not the first time that the flag of your relatively young nation had been associated with the spirit of exploration, as 53 years ago India’s national banner was hoisted on the summit of Mt. Everest, upon the conquest of Earth’s tallest peak. Today, the Indian people deserve to be tremendously proud that the next time the Indian flag travels to the moon it will be placed on a very impressive scientific spacecraft Chandrayaan-1. The mission you will conduct some 40 years after humans saw the moon up close for the first time, will greatly advance our understanding of our closest neighbor in space, and represents a very impressive technical achievement. NASA is honored to be a participant on this mission.
The two year mission of Chandrayaan-1 to map the lunar surface and investigate its surface properties will advance knowledge about the moon’s history and evolution, and inform future exploration decisions by characterizing the content of the lunar soil. I understand that beyond the purpose of expanding scientific knowledge about the moon, you are undertaking this mission to upgrade India’s technological capability and to provide challenging opportunities for planetary research for the younger generation. These are commendable goals and I applaud the Indian Space Research Organization for undertaking your first planetary mission. It is my hope, and belief, that as we extend the reach of human civilization throughout the solar system, the United States and India will be partners on many more technically challenging and scientifically rewarding projects. Building on over four decades of productive and mutually beneficial U.S.-Indian space cooperation, I see great potential for NASA and the India Space Research Organization to expand our partnership in the future as we realize the potential of space activities to benefit our peoples and to extend the horizons of commerce, science and exploration.
During my visit, I very much look forward to the opportunity to see first hand India’s impressive space facilities, to meet with your scientists and engineers, and to learn more about your remarkable work to develop and operate India’s launch vehicles, satellites and control stations. I thank you once again for the opportunity to be here, and I very much look forward to the successful launch of this bold mission.
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#171 Posted by Behram1 on October 16, 2006 12:58:15 pm
All the ugly black and smelley hindoo termites are out in force once again. Some consider giving advice when none is required. What is with the stammering hindoo class of mumbai? They have massacred minorities, and continue to do so, and yet hindoos have the audacity to stand in front of humanity and show of their Ghanpatti, or is it that minkey that their pray towards. Even the Economist magazine has suggested that not more than 10% of their engineering graduates are world class. No wonder we see hindoo suckers schmoozing for employment, and yes there is always a need of jamaadaars in corporate america.
BTW, Jamaadars is a Parsee last name, and is definitely given to those from India who had nothing else to do but clean toilets at Dadar. O! These mumbayites have no indoor plumbing, and in Karachi we always had indoor plumbing.
No wonder hindoo scums are squatting on the railroad tracks.
#169 Posted by tahmed32 on October 16, 2006 11:14:21 am
#164 Thanks for pointing out what I forgot - that there are even individuals like you on chowk who self-righteously justify the gujrat killings.
That merely puts you at best at the same level as those who burnt the Godhra train. That is, at the level of killers. But certainly not at the high moral pedestal that kamath was trying to sit on.
That merely puts you at best at the same level as those who burnt the Godhra train. That is, at the level of killers. But certainly not at the high moral pedestal that kamath was trying to sit on.
#168 Posted by arjun2 on October 16, 2006 11:07:41 am
speaking of parsis..
TCS Q2 profit up 50% at Rs 931 crore
Information technology major Tata Consultancy Services` net profit for second quarter jumps 50.13 per cent to Rs 931.32 crore (Rs 9.312 billion), against Rs 620.32 crore (Rs 6.203 billion) a year ago.
TCS Q2 profit up 50% at Rs 931 crore
Information technology major Tata Consultancy Services` net profit for second quarter jumps 50.13 per cent to Rs 931.32 crore (Rs 9.312 billion), against Rs 620.32 crore (Rs 6.203 billion) a year ago.
#170 Posted by VRV on October 16, 2006 11:29:18 am
Re: # 168
Arjun,
U know Tats are going to acquire Corus steel, whihc wud make them competitors to MIttal Steel. Tha means the first 2 competitors for primary core sector in the world are Indians.
>>>Tata Steel may come up with a $2 billion bond offer to part-finance the acquisition of Anglo-Dutch Corus Group if it manages to clinch the deal.
Sources close to the development said the country`s second-largest steel maker would have to keep a war chest of $8-9 billion ready to fund the Corus takeover. British laws demand an open offer to all Corus shareholders if the Tata group`s holding in the company goes beyond 30 per cent.>>>
http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/oct/06tata.htm
They are already an Indian MNC. They own Tetley Tea in UK now. They are on buying out spree....... and Rata tells Star News that they want to see the India flag flying high in the world.......doesnt it give u goosepimples? Btw, Ratan is not a II class citizen of India.
Ajim Premji funds primary education in Karnataka. How great was his vision to spends money for primary education?
Buddhonjee Effonjee sees PTV and get ejaculation seeing poor rail aquatters in India. In fact these creepers are poorer than those rail sqautters. What is his education that makes him an animal?
(Btw, thanks for posting that Somalia`s Moallim photo on UP).
Arjun,
U know Tats are going to acquire Corus steel, whihc wud make them competitors to MIttal Steel. Tha means the first 2 competitors for primary core sector in the world are Indians.
>>>Tata Steel may come up with a $2 billion bond offer to part-finance the acquisition of Anglo-Dutch Corus Group if it manages to clinch the deal.
Sources close to the development said the country`s second-largest steel maker would have to keep a war chest of $8-9 billion ready to fund the Corus takeover. British laws demand an open offer to all Corus shareholders if the Tata group`s holding in the company goes beyond 30 per cent.>>>
http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/oct/06tata.htm
They are already an Indian MNC. They own Tetley Tea in UK now. They are on buying out spree....... and Rata tells Star News that they want to see the India flag flying high in the world.......doesnt it give u goosepimples? Btw, Ratan is not a II class citizen of India.
Ajim Premji funds primary education in Karnataka. How great was his vision to spends money for primary education?
Buddhonjee Effonjee sees PTV and get ejaculation seeing poor rail aquatters in India. In fact these creepers are poorer than those rail sqautters. What is his education that makes him an animal?
(Btw, thanks for posting that Somalia`s Moallim photo on UP).
#165 Posted by friend on October 16, 2006 10:28:53 am
Behram baba #145
There are 4 phases associates with a failure or setback. Denial, anger, acceptance, and healing.
You are still in a denial stage. We parsis are good businessmen so it doesn`t matter that we are constitutionally denied top positions in civil or military. You were ok when you were consitutionally made second class citizen of Pakistan. You are ok when you have to declare your religion on your passports. You will still have a rationale when they will ask you to wear a yellow marker or a star of David. Here is a revelation for you. In india you can run your business, and also do whatever you want. You can really aim for top most position and have a realistic hope of meeting yuor goal.
PS: You have some unhealthy interest in people squating near railway lines. Is it due to the increasing feminity, decreasing masculinity and increasing impotency in Parsis? Another revelation for you. India is soon removing homosexuality from the list of offenses. You can come out.
There are 4 phases associates with a failure or setback. Denial, anger, acceptance, and healing.
You are still in a denial stage. We parsis are good businessmen so it doesn`t matter that we are constitutionally denied top positions in civil or military. You were ok when you were consitutionally made second class citizen of Pakistan. You are ok when you have to declare your religion on your passports. You will still have a rationale when they will ask you to wear a yellow marker or a star of David. Here is a revelation for you. In india you can run your business, and also do whatever you want. You can really aim for top most position and have a realistic hope of meeting yuor goal.
PS: You have some unhealthy interest in people squating near railway lines. Is it due to the increasing feminity, decreasing masculinity and increasing impotency in Parsis? Another revelation for you. India is soon removing homosexuality from the list of offenses. You can come out.
#167 Posted by VRV on October 16, 2006 10:52:34 am
Re: # 165
Buddhonjee Effonjee is a II clas citizen of an emasculated republic. Was he considerate our rail sqautters or sarcastic? He`s former, I think. Let him keep his homilies to himself and be the II class citizen there. They are not a martial race when they were effed by the maruading Arabs.
Btw, his engineering degree from pureland is equal to a piece of toilet tissue in India. He wont get any job of consideration here.
Tatas, Godrejs and many more top-class Parsi industrialits are not onesie or twosies, u stupid. That was the shining example our open society where becoming rich depends on one`s vision and hard work. Nobody stops them.
We dont manufacture rich people by pushing them to the top. If somebody lies behind, there are Minority Finance corporations funded by the Govt of India. If some backward, lethargic group doesnt make use of even such inducements, it`s not our fault. U mothered respectfullysubmitted skunk.
Buddhonjee Effonjee is a II clas citizen of an emasculated republic. Was he considerate our rail sqautters or sarcastic? He`s former, I think. Let him keep his homilies to himself and be the II class citizen there. They are not a martial race when they were effed by the maruading Arabs.
Btw, his engineering degree from pureland is equal to a piece of toilet tissue in India. He wont get any job of consideration here.
Tatas, Godrejs and many more top-class Parsi industrialits are not onesie or twosies, u stupid. That was the shining example our open society where becoming rich depends on one`s vision and hard work. Nobody stops them.
We dont manufacture rich people by pushing them to the top. If somebody lies behind, there are Minority Finance corporations funded by the Govt of India. If some backward, lethargic group doesnt make use of even such inducements, it`s not our fault. U mothered respectfullysubmitted skunk.
#166 Posted by shishapa on October 16, 2006 10:44:13 am
Re: # 165
``PS: You have some unhealthy interest in people squating near railway lines. ``
Perhaps because his house is very close to Missouri Pacific (Mopac) Railroad tracks in
Austin?
``PS: You have some unhealthy interest in people squating near railway lines. ``
Perhaps because his house is very close to Missouri Pacific (Mopac) Railroad tracks in
Austin?
#164 Posted by krishna_abcd on October 16, 2006 9:27:16 am
#161 by tahmed32
[kamath: coming from a country where mobs actually burn minorities while the police look on - and where the chief ghoonda behind those killings is relected as chief minister or something and treated as a party big wig by BJP - you are hardly in a position to talk ``dear boy, please be careful since you are in Pakistan``. ]
You accidentally left out the part about a trainload of Hindu men, women and children burnt alive first.
But then, you`re an Islamist. And no amount of arguments is going to change the Islamist trait for lying through your teeth so suit the Islamist agenda.
[kamath: coming from a country where mobs actually burn minorities while the police look on - and where the chief ghoonda behind those killings is relected as chief minister or something and treated as a party big wig by BJP - you are hardly in a position to talk ``dear boy, please be careful since you are in Pakistan``. ]
You accidentally left out the part about a trainload of Hindu men, women and children burnt alive first.
But then, you`re an Islamist. And no amount of arguments is going to change the Islamist trait for lying through your teeth so suit the Islamist agenda.
#163 Posted by tahmed32 on October 16, 2006 9:11:02 am
zeemax #162 which board is this?? i havent been reading much on the FP lately and therefore probably didnt read your post.
And I assume this TNT question is something being discussed below - and am not sure why you want my views (for what they are worth) on it. As for Kashmir - what I support is an end to the violence and accepting of the ground reality of the LoC. Since regardless of what you or I or anyone else thinks, India isnt going to hand over Kashmir to Pakistan and Pakistan doesnt have the means to take it by force. And I am not interested in beating this dead horse of kashmir any further.
And I assume this TNT question is something being discussed below - and am not sure why you want my views (for what they are worth) on it. As for Kashmir - what I support is an end to the violence and accepting of the ground reality of the LoC. Since regardless of what you or I or anyone else thinks, India isnt going to hand over Kashmir to Pakistan and Pakistan doesnt have the means to take it by force. And I am not interested in beating this dead horse of kashmir any further.
#162 Posted by zeemax on October 16, 2006 6:50:11 am
tahmed32,
I see you have avoided answering #235 in response to your #142 on the other board.
Never mind. Can you just kindly answer this?
Do you support the TNT for Kashmir but not for Pakistan?
Or you can go back and answer the whole thing. Your choice.
I see you have avoided answering #235 in response to your #142 on the other board.
Never mind. Can you just kindly answer this?
Do you support the TNT for Kashmir but not for Pakistan?
Or you can go back and answer the whole thing. Your choice.
#161 Posted by tahmed32 on October 16, 2006 6:08:52 am
#160 behram: i see you are beating a dead mule...er...i mean, responding to masadi`s rubbish. as for kamath sahib - this ``concern`` is simply another example of this ``holier than thou`` role that too many indians love to play.
kamath: coming from a country where mobs actually burn minorities while the police look on - and where the chief ghoonda behind those killings is relected as chief minister or something and treated as a party big wig by BJP - you are hardly in a position to talk ``dear boy, please be careful since you are in Pakistan``.
kamath: coming from a country where mobs actually burn minorities while the police look on - and where the chief ghoonda behind those killings is relected as chief minister or something and treated as a party big wig by BJP - you are hardly in a position to talk ``dear boy, please be careful since you are in Pakistan``.
#160 Posted by Behram1 on October 16, 2006 6:01:35 am
Re: #159 by kamath on October 16, 2006 5:08am PT
Dear Kamath Sahib:
I am not sure why you are asking me to be careful? Why would the watchful eyes of Pakistan government be on a naacheez like me? What are you implying in your subtlety? I am a simple person with impeccable character, and the Government of Pakistan is not that stupid to attack me, right in the building where G.W. Bush and Alberto Gonzales have business residence.
Anyway thanks for the concern, and I would take that under advisement.
But, now let me tackle that nuisance shaitaan-e-buzorg on this chowk site:
{Compare their state with the state of African Americans in the US or other ``different`` minorities here and you will see that Behram`s crocodile tears are based on BS.}
You stupid idiot, look at the whole of Islamic world and you can figure it out how minorities are treated. The only reason they are not slogging away in Islamic jails, is because they are not dependent economically on the majorities. And yes, thanks to the British raj, Parsee boys have done exceptionally well for the community.
Do you have any problem with that?
{.. I am not talking about some secret knowledge, what I write is quite obvious, taken from the mainstream in most cases, logically connected for those who can think worth a dime.}
O! yeah! Taken from the far left wing think tank is not fair at all. That is in itself bigotry of the worst kind. Promoting your brand of religious zealotry and then wondering why most pious muslims on this site is against your evil existence. Your nonsense would put even Jabreel to shame. Do you get it?
{You on the other hand, have not only not made the transition from a dog to a human being, your only response is insults and attacks and labels of Mullah-}
OK, who cuts and paste his religious books on the chowk? You do. If you are not a mullah-o-crat then why bring your holy books into these discussions? Then, you worry why people call you nuts.
{which even the Hindus on here recognize that I am not,} Actually, you don`t even recognize that you are a stucked bi-polar case with your thoughts just stuck on the dogma given to you some 1400 years ago. And you have not even transitioned to enlightenment yet. You vaccillate from wherever you want to go in circles like a dirty dog chasing his tail.
{ you cannot deal with even one argument presented, infact you are so pathetic that even your insults sound infantile. That should seal the deal for the people on here, whom they should pay attention to. }
People on this chowk admire my style, and I know that. Just look at those who have interacted here. No more anti-Islam bashing is going on. And you who have constantly brought your pristine religion into these discussion.
Are you not ashamed of yourself?
Respectfully submitted,
Dear Kamath Sahib:
I am not sure why you are asking me to be careful? Why would the watchful eyes of Pakistan government be on a naacheez like me? What are you implying in your subtlety? I am a simple person with impeccable character, and the Government of Pakistan is not that stupid to attack me, right in the building where G.W. Bush and Alberto Gonzales have business residence.
Anyway thanks for the concern, and I would take that under advisement.
But, now let me tackle that nuisance shaitaan-e-buzorg on this chowk site:
{Compare their state with the state of African Americans in the US or other ``different`` minorities here and you will see that Behram`s crocodile tears are based on BS.}
You stupid idiot, look at the whole of Islamic world and you can figure it out how minorities are treated. The only reason they are not slogging away in Islamic jails, is because they are not dependent economically on the majorities. And yes, thanks to the British raj, Parsee boys have done exceptionally well for the community.
Do you have any problem with that?
{.. I am not talking about some secret knowledge, what I write is quite obvious, taken from the mainstream in most cases, logically connected for those who can think worth a dime.}
O! yeah! Taken from the far left wing think tank is not fair at all. That is in itself bigotry of the worst kind. Promoting your brand of religious zealotry and then wondering why most pious muslims on this site is against your evil existence. Your nonsense would put even Jabreel to shame. Do you get it?
{You on the other hand, have not only not made the transition from a dog to a human being, your only response is insults and attacks and labels of Mullah-}
OK, who cuts and paste his religious books on the chowk? You do. If you are not a mullah-o-crat then why bring your holy books into these discussions? Then, you worry why people call you nuts.
{which even the Hindus on here recognize that I am not,} Actually, you don`t even recognize that you are a stucked bi-polar case with your thoughts just stuck on the dogma given to you some 1400 years ago. And you have not even transitioned to enlightenment yet. You vaccillate from wherever you want to go in circles like a dirty dog chasing his tail.
{ you cannot deal with even one argument presented, infact you are so pathetic that even your insults sound infantile. That should seal the deal for the people on here, whom they should pay attention to. }
People on this chowk admire my style, and I know that. Just look at those who have interacted here. No more anti-Islam bashing is going on. And you who have constantly brought your pristine religion into these discussion.
Are you not ashamed of yourself?
Respectfully submitted,
#158 Posted by masadi on October 16, 2006 5:04:59 am
bulleya writes <<< thus parsis must be financially and socially the most successful community in pakistan.... >>>
Compare their state with the state of African Americans in the US or other ``different`` minorities here and you will see that Behram`s crocodile tears are based on BS.
okhla writes <<< Masadi,
Recollect the following questions posed to you on another thread, >>>
And they were adequately answered and you were quite stumped, now in your dishonest fashion, you repaste them as if I have time to waste with you. People who are interested can read the answers in the other post:
Copy pasted
<<< These for the benefit of those okhla99 is desperately trying to mislead. His intellect is the size of a rat`s fart and so I`m not interested in proving anything to him. But what I will not allow is for detractors like him to cloud the issues.
He writes <<< Question 1. What would you recommend to young Pakistanis & University Students : Publications from McGraw Hill, Springer Verlag, Prentice Hall etc or publications from lulu.com??? >>>
The publisher has nothing to do with literary merits. If Pakistani students are going to bastardize their intellect and sacrifice their point of view for sales, as these mainstream publishers have as their criteria, they should avoid them like the plague. Regardless of where they publish and how much they sell, gathering their ideas and coherently preserving them is part of Intellectual Craftsmanship, a unique contribution to the world and humanity, which they should develop. If selling and sales were the criteria for publication, most intellectual works would be ignored as they are by these corporate publishers, and the world would lose out.
<<< Question 2. You wish people to believe that Medical Science evolved in the hospitals of Cairo & Damishq where (Soap, Phenyle, antiseptics and antibiotics and CAT scan & MRI technoology) were discovered and that western civilisation is living in filth and sewage. Why Masadi, why ? >>>>
Knowledge advances in incremental successive steps, you cannot ignore the history of the various sciences, a history in which the Islamic people played an indispensible part, when you talk about modern advances. In the Middle Ages Europe had an acute sewage problem that led to many diseases, no such problems existed in the Islamic world at the time. Read your history books
<<< Question 3. Why do you wish Pakistan to not co-operate in the war on terror and continue support to Jehadis and terorists? Why do you believe that any such cooperation would tantamount to immediate and complete ``capitulation`` before America or that the status of the ``sovereign state`` of Pakistan would be compromised ? >>>
Pakistan was messed up before when it fought America`s cold war, similary it now faces a lot more serious problems than any terrorism which by the way was a by-product of that war and fluorishes in the conditions that exist in a condition where the institutional structure, both political and economic is in shambles. The `capitulation` was the explicit capitualition by Musharraf, something that goes totally against what it means to be a sovereign nation. The fight against `terrorism` would be a fight against US imperialistic state terrorism, that causes a lot more harm and destruction around the globe. The rag tags described as terrorists are merely leeching off that higher terrorism.
<<< Question 4. You wish that Musharraf should step down immediately. You secretly wish that you be anointed his successor immediately. Are you for real ??? >>>
The military and dictators have no place running the political affairs of a country, the do not represent the people, they weaken any roots of a political establishment taking root, and they have traditionally done the bidding of America to the detriment of the country. Since Pakistan`s creation its military has messed it up gearing it to do the bidding of an external. Those who care about the real needs of the people of a nation need to be its leaders not lapdogs of the colonials. It has nothing to do with me being anointed as his successor, I am not a dictator and tyrant to be a bastard`s successor.
p.s. That was my last word on your oft repeated, deliberately manipulated questions. I am not interested in going back and forth with idiots whose only argument against all the hard work I have done is ``lulu.com``. So take a hike.
>>>>>>
Hamid writes <<< .......... as long as you continue to live in the west and accept government cheese, you will never have any credibility ......... >>>
A prime characteristic of the ``bhand (caninus) mentality`` is that instead of dealing with arguments presented, the person will convert it into an Ad hominem attack on the person, as if geographic location has anything to do with analysis of a social system. Hamid has defaulted to this pathetic tactic dozens of times and has been adequately answered. My work does not deal with `my life` but with the lives of millions that are oppressed in this society, leaving this country, which I will shortly, will not make my arguments any more or any less valid, just like Noam Chomsky`s arguments are not valid or invalid because he chooses to live here.
Behram writes, <<< Shaitaan-e-Buzorg Khajoor injected rat brained vibrating mullah-o-crat masadi:
Ever since you have joined this chowk all we were told is that west is bad, and west is naked, and west is blah, blah, blah. Like a rickety rack, Karachi rickshaw, you have been trying to convince yourself that you are some sort of a genius >>>
Genius has nothing to do with it, I am not talking about some secret knowledge, what I write is quite obvious, taken from the mainstream in most cases, logically connected for those who can think worth a dime. You on the other hand, have not only not made the transition from a dog to a human being, your only response is insults and attacks and labels of Mullah- which even the Hindus on here recognize that I am not, you cannot deal with even one argument presented, infact you are so pathetic that even your insults sound infantile. That should seal the deal for the people on here, whom they should pay attention to. Like echo mian said to me in one of his posts, ``keep them on a long leash but don`t let them loose``, I ignore you because you are a dimwit with absolutely no argument and no respect for truth and deceny, but remember that I wont let dogs like you loose, whenever you raise your ugly head of bigotry to mislead the people, I will put you in your place.
Compare their state with the state of African Americans in the US or other ``different`` minorities here and you will see that Behram`s crocodile tears are based on BS.
okhla writes <<< Masadi,
Recollect the following questions posed to you on another thread, >>>
And they were adequately answered and you were quite stumped, now in your dishonest fashion, you repaste them as if I have time to waste with you. People who are interested can read the answers in the other post:
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<<< These for the benefit of those okhla99 is desperately trying to mislead. His intellect is the size of a rat`s fart and so I`m not interested in proving anything to him. But what I will not allow is for detractors like him to cloud the issues.
He writes <<< Question 1. What would you recommend to young Pakistanis & University Students : Publications from McGraw Hill, Springer Verlag, Prentice Hall etc or publications from lulu.com??? >>>
The publisher has nothing to do with literary merits. If Pakistani students are going to bastardize their intellect and sacrifice their point of view for sales, as these mainstream publishers have as their criteria, they should avoid them like the plague. Regardless of where they publish and how much they sell, gathering their ideas and coherently preserving them is part of Intellectual Craftsmanship, a unique contribution to the world and humanity, which they should develop. If selling and sales were the criteria for publication, most intellectual works would be ignored as they are by these corporate publishers, and the world would lose out.
<<< Question 2. You wish people to believe that Medical Science evolved in the hospitals of Cairo & Damishq where (Soap, Phenyle, antiseptics and antibiotics and CAT scan & MRI technoology) were discovered and that western civilisation is living in filth and sewage. Why Masadi, why ? >>>>
Knowledge advances in incremental successive steps, you cannot ignore the history of the various sciences, a history in which the Islamic people played an indispensible part, when you talk about modern advances. In the Middle Ages Europe had an acute sewage problem that led to many diseases, no such problems existed in the Islamic world at the time. Read your history books
<<< Question 3. Why do you wish Pakistan to not co-operate in the war on terror and continue support to Jehadis and terorists? Why do you believe that any such cooperation would tantamount to immediate and complete ``capitulation`` before America or that the status of the ``sovereign state`` of Pakistan would be compromised ? >>>
Pakistan was messed up before when it fought America`s cold war, similary it now faces a lot more serious problems than any terrorism which by the way was a by-product of that war and fluorishes in the conditions that exist in a condition where the institutional structure, both political and economic is in shambles. The `capitulation` was the explicit capitualition by Musharraf, something that goes totally against what it means to be a sovereign nation. The fight against `terrorism` would be a fight against US imperialistic state terrorism, that causes a lot more harm and destruction around the globe. The rag tags described as terrorists are merely leeching off that higher terrorism.
<<< Question 4. You wish that Musharraf should step down immediately. You secretly wish that you be anointed his successor immediately. Are you for real ??? >>>
The military and dictators have no place running the political affairs of a country, the do not represent the people, they weaken any roots of a political establishment taking root, and they have traditionally done the bidding of America to the detriment of the country. Since Pakistan`s creation its military has messed it up gearing it to do the bidding of an external. Those who care about the real needs of the people of a nation need to be its leaders not lapdogs of the colonials. It has nothing to do with me being anointed as his successor, I am not a dictator and tyrant to be a bastard`s successor.
p.s. That was my last word on your oft repeated, deliberately manipulated questions. I am not interested in going back and forth with idiots whose only argument against all the hard work I have done is ``lulu.com``. So take a hike.
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Hamid writes <<< .......... as long as you continue to live in the west and accept government cheese, you will never have any credibility ......... >>>
A prime characteristic of the ``bhand (caninus) mentality`` is that instead of dealing with arguments presented, the person will convert it into an Ad hominem attack on the person, as if geographic location has anything to do with analysis of a social system. Hamid has defaulted to this pathetic tactic dozens of times and has been adequately answered. My work does not deal with `my life` but with the lives of millions that are oppressed in this society, leaving this country, which I will shortly, will not make my arguments any more or any less valid, just like Noam Chomsky`s arguments are not valid or invalid because he chooses to live here.
Behram writes, <<< Shaitaan-e-Buzorg Khajoor injected rat brained vibrating mullah-o-crat masadi:
Ever since you have joined this chowk all we were told is that west is bad, and west is naked, and west is blah, blah, blah. Like a rickety rack, Karachi rickshaw, you have been trying to convince yourself that you are some sort of a genius >>>
Genius has nothing to do with it, I am not talking about some secret knowledge, what I write is quite obvious, taken from the mainstream in most cases, logically connected for those who can think worth a dime. You on the other hand, have not only not made the transition from a dog to a human being, your only response is insults and attacks and labels of Mullah- which even the Hindus on here recognize that I am not, you cannot deal with even one argument presented, infact you are so pathetic that even your insults sound infantile. That should seal the deal for the people on here, whom they should pay attention to. Like echo mian said to me in one of his posts, ``keep them on a long leash but don`t let them loose``, I ignore you because you are a dimwit with absolutely no argument and no respect for truth and deceny, but remember that I wont let dogs like you loose, whenever you raise your ugly head of bigotry to mislead the people, I will put you in your place.
#156 Posted by krishna_abcd on October 15, 2006 10:45:16 pm
#151 by CoolAL
THIS is how Islam takes over. The majority are NOT converted by the sword. The initial converts are like seed money. THIS is the slow, gradual social pressure that forces the rest of the people to convert. After a while, people just don`t want to deal with this kind of thing on a daily basis. They just give up.
THIS is how Islam takes over. The majority are NOT converted by the sword. The initial converts are like seed money. THIS is the slow, gradual social pressure that forces the rest of the people to convert. After a while, people just don`t want to deal with this kind of thing on a daily basis. They just give up.
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